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MR2 12-01-2013 22:30

We should create a ban on undetectable brains - but then Congress would probably exempt themselves...

tonyz 12-02-2013 09:43

Birds of a feather...water is wet...
 
A study that supports what many have suggested for some time - passing restrictive firearms laws to control virtually the entire population when only a very small subgroup participates in gun crime - is inefficient and just does not work to control gun crime. Targeting the criminal is a much better approach.

This study did not address whether being a member in good standing of a lawful concealed carry cohort results in substantially less illegal gun violence. I think I know the answer...

Links contained in the story and comments are always interesting.

From the article...

"Overall, the community's five-year homicide rate was 39.7 per 100,000 people, which was still much higher than the averages of other areas of Chicago (14.7 per 100,000). But being a part of that network of co-offenders, essentially just being arrested, raised the rate to by nearly 50 percent, to 55.2 per 100,000. What's more, being in a network with a homicide victim increased the homicide rate by 900 percent, to 554.1 per 100,000.

"You're at a risk for living in this [certain] community, but if you're in the network, your risk is astronomical," Papachristos says. "That rate is beyond epidemic proportion, that's actually scary."



Gun Violence Significantly Increased by Social Interactions
Being arrested and knowing a homicide victim could increase a person's risk by 900 percent

USNews

By ALLIE BIDWELL
November 14, 2013

It turns out that who you know and spend time with may have more of an influence on your risk of becoming a gun homicide victim, than race, age and gang affiliation, according to a new study from a team of sociologists at Yale University.

Andrew Papachristos, an associate professor of sociology at Yale, analyzed police and gun homicide records from 2006 to 2011 for people living in a high-crime neighborhood in Chicago. He found that 41 percent of all gun homicides occurred within a network of less than 4 percent of the neighborhood's population, and that the closer one is connected to a homicide victim, the greater that person's chances were for becoming a victim. Each social tie removed from a homicide victim decreased a person's odds of becoming a victim by 57 percent.

"What the findings essentially tell you is that the people who are most at risk of becoming a victim are sort of surrounded by victims within a few handshakes," Papachristos says. "These are young men who are actively engaged in the behaviors that got them in this network."

The network in question consists of more than 3,700 high-risk individuals – young, African-American males from a poor neighborhood – who were clustered into a network by instances of co-offending, meaning each person in the group had been arrested with another person.

Overall, the community's five-year homicide rate was 39.7 per 100,000 people, which was still much higher than the averages of other areas of Chicago (14.7 per 100,000). But being a part of that network of co-offenders, essentially just being arrested, raised the rate to by nearly 50 percent, to 55.2 per 100,000. What's more, being in a network with a homicide victim increased the homicide rate by 900 percent, to 554.1 per 100,000.

"You're at a risk for living in this [certain] community, but if you're in the network, your risk is astronomical," Papachristos says. "That rate is beyond epidemic proportion, that's actually scary."

Typically, Papachristos says, there are traditional factors that put a person at a higher risk of becoming a victim of gun violence homicide - African-Americans are more likely to be killed than whites; men more likely than women; gang members more likely than non-gang members; and those who come from low-income neighborhoods more likely than affluent individuals.

But even more than any of those factors, Papachristos says, a victim's social network was a better indicator.

"What you see, which is what drives the finding, is precisely that the victims cluster in the network. They're not randomly distributed," Papachristos says. "The opposite, however, is also interesting, which is there are lots of parts of the networks where there aren't any victims."

Papachristos says it makes sense to look at the spread of gun violence like the spread of a disease or an epidemic, comparing it to how people contract HIV. Much like the roles needle sharing and unprotected sex play in the spread of HIV, a person's behaviors and personal associations play a role in the spread of gun violence homicides, he says.

"It's the behavior of sharing needles that puts you at risk for contracting HIV, not simply being poor and black and living in a certain neighborhood," Papachristos says. "The same is true with violence. It's who you hang around with that gets you in trouble."

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http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...l-interactions

mojaveman 12-03-2013 18:13

NFL denies pro-gun advertisement during Super Bowl
 
A gun manfacturer's ad designed for the Super Bowl won't be run during the big game because it doesn't meet the NFL's standards for advertising.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...0020--nfl.html

Team Sergeant 12-03-2013 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojaveman (Post 532094)
A gun manfacturer's ad designed for the Super Bowl won't be run during the big game because it doesn't meet the NFL's standards for advertising.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...0020--nfl.html

But allowing brutal dog killing convicted felon to play is OK with the NFL.

Yeah all the "real" men should send the NFL a message and not watch the game. I don't watch the National Felon's League anymore.

MR2 12-03-2013 21:51

Right on cue, this shows up in an email from a friend:

National Movement to Boycott NFL Launched

TrapLine 12-04-2013 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 532095)
But allowing brutal dog killing convicted felon to play is OK with the NFL.

Yeah all the "real" men should send the NFL a message and not watch the game. I don't watch the National Felon's League anymore.

I quit watching the NFL several years ago and don't miss it all. The celebrations for routine midfield tackles were just too much. Throw in the gangsta culture and I will happily pass.

tonyz 12-04-2013 12:12

This young lady's video will piss off many liberals.

Why Good People Should Be Armed.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/20RoAff...h=0&theme=dark

cjwils3 12-04-2013 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrapLine (Post 532145)
I quit watching the NFL several years ago and don't miss it all. The celebrations for routine midfield tackles were just too much. Throw in the gangsta culture and I will happily pass.

I still watch the NFL because I enjoy a hard-fought football game (preferably a defensive one, which seems to be more of a rarity now given the rule changes). But I completely agree with you all that the silliness and look-at-me culture has poisoned the league, perhaps to a point of no return. :rolleyes:

I know who my heroes are, and they sure as heck aren't egotistical professional athletes or Hollywood celebrities...

Team Sergeant 12-05-2013 10:05

Multi-clip gun owners sent packing as NYPD begins to enforce 2010 law
 
MOLON LABE

It begins and you LEO's said you'd never enforce this sort of law. I guess we know the truth now.

MOLON LABE



Multi-clip gun owners sent packing as NYPD begins to enforce 2010 law
By Edmund DeMarche/
Published December 05, 2013/
FoxNews.com

The New York City Police Department is taking aim at owners of certain shotguns and rifles, telling them all long guns with a five-round or more capacity must be turned in, altered or taken out of town.

An estimated 500 recipients of the notices, which were mailed on Nov. 18, were given the options to surrender their gun, permanently move the gun out of city jurisdiction or employ a licensed gunsmith to modify the weapon to get into compliance with the law. Rifles and shotguns with a capacity of five or more rounds are affected.

An NYPD spokeswoman told FoxNews.com the initiative has been in practice since 2010, but this year is the first time critics say the notices were so widely dispersed. The notice was first reported on the website TheTruthAboutGuns.com.

cont:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/05...otguns-rifles/

Badger52 12-05-2013 11:25

How it begins indeed...
 
"Sorry, it's not here."

"You registered it. Therefore, we have reasonable suspicion that it should be with you, yet you have not advised us of its disposition. So we will now come inside to have a look around."

"I don't consent to that."

"We don't need your consent."

"But..." :boohoo

MR2 12-12-2013 21:43

I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns: Schindler’s List.

Team Sergeant 12-12-2013 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR2 (Post 533699)
I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns: Schindler’s List.

Those that do not learn from history are dammed to repeat it....

And most Jews in NY vote democrat/progressive/socialist.....

When it happens again, I'll be fishing.

badshot 12-12-2013 23:52

It's just a game if it isn't racing...Senna is my hero

It's like a subtle cancer isn't it...not surprised about the police nor my once home state that's become a police state.

Enjoy the knockout (or murder) games, the punks have nothing to fear

pcfixer 12-14-2013 20:42

Gun-grabbing Notre Dame Philosopher: successfully resisting tyranny is fantasy
 
http://bearingarms.com/gun-grabbing-...ny-is-fantasy/

In a citizen control op-ed in the New York Times strung together with logical fallacies, rhetorical faults, and broken philosophical proofs, he chucked in a howler suggesting that our modern military would simply steamroll over American gun owners, so we may as well turn in our guns.

"Finally, there’s the idea that citizens need guns so they can, if need be, oppose the force of a repressive government. Those who think there are current (or likely future) government actions in this country that would require armed resistance are living a paranoid fantasy. The idea that armed American citizens could stand up to our military is beyond fantasy."


If Professor Gutting isn’t familiar with the Green Berets, perhaps it is worthwhile to point out now their primary mission:

The main mission of the Special Forces was to train and lead unconventional warfare (UW) forces, or a clandestine guerrilla force in an occupied nation.

They train insurgencies to overthrow oppressive regimes. Their motto de oppresso liber is understood to mean to liberate the oppressed. How do the Green Berets feel about heavy-handed regime tactics toward gun control and confiscation like those favored by Professor Gutting? 1,100 of them sent a letter to President Obama earlier this year, warning the President in no uncertain terms that they would not sit quietly by if the government sought to undermine the Second Amendment. The language was measured, but unmistakable.

Molon Labe, Professor.


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