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Pete 04-29-2009 04:35

Not reading all the posts?
 
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Originally Posted by Defender968 (Post 262327)
Why on earth is it illegal there?

Somebody not been reading all the posts around here?

Who owns the Rain?


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Blitzzz (RIP) 04-29-2009 15:45

Collecting rain...
 
GOD gave us that water not some f--king government Bureaucrats.
But then I haven't asked Obama yet. Blitzzz

Defender968 04-29-2009 17:42

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 262438)
Somebody not been reading all the posts around here?

Who owns the Rain?


http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ad.php?t=22937

My apologies, I did miss that one. Personally I disagree with the idea that anyone gets to claim ownership of the rain, if it falls on your property and you want to collect it, you should have the right IMO, trying to say you don't is just another instance of the gov getting way to involved with a citizens day to day life for no reason.

mugwump 06-18-2009 16:52

IBCs (Intermediate Bulk Containers)
 
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FYI for water, fuel, etc. They come in different grades for different liquids.

These were new to me...they are apparently the equivalent to steel shipping containers for small quantities of liquids. They're colloquially called "totes" and when I Googled "tote 330 gallons Illinois" I got hundreds of hits, many local.

Most are stackable up to 4 high, so I'd assume you could put one in the corner of the garage, fill it 3/4 with water (we freeze hard around here), cover it with a square of 3/4 ply, and stack stuff on it up to the ceiling. A 330 gal tote full of H2O would weigh more than a ton, so they must be tough if they stack 4 high. They have standard fittings and most apparently come with industrial ball valves. Standard size for 330 gal is 46½" x 46½" x 48".

The guy who told me about them got a once-used 330 gallon food-grade unit for $120 hauled away from a chocolate factory. He just had to rinse out liquid glucose residue.

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ZooKeeper 06-22-2009 18:19

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Originally Posted by mugwump (Post 270120)
FYI for water, fuel, etc. They come in different grades for different liquids.

These were new to me...they are apparently the equivalent to steel shipping containers for small quantities of liquids. They're colloquially called "totes" and when I Googled "tote 330 gallons Illinois" I got hundreds of hits, many local.

Most are stackable up to 4 high, so I'd assume you could put one in the corner of the garage, fill it 3/4 with water (we freeze hard around here), cover it with a square of 3/4 ply, and stack stuff on it up to the ceiling. A 330 gal tote full of H2O would weigh more than a ton, so they must be tough if they stack 4 high. They have standard fittings and most apparently come with industrial ball valves. Standard size for 330 gal is 46½" x 46½" x 48".

The guy who told me about them got a once-used 330 gallon food-grade unit for $120 hauled away from a chocolate factory. He just had to rinse out liquid glucose residue.

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We use these in my line of work in 500-600 gal versions. Ours have fungicide & insecticide in them. You have to use a forklift to move them. If you had a walkout basement with double doors (or another way to get them in a environment that didn't freeze), you could put clean/new totes there & use a pump (Banjo Corp?) to move water to where you need it/into your current home piping.

armymom1228 06-22-2009 18:43

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Originally Posted by ZooKeeper (Post 270644)
We use these in my line of work in 500-600 gal versions. Ours have fungicide & insecticide in them. You have to use a forklift to move them. If you had a walkout basement with double doors (or another way to get them in a environment that didn't freeze), you could put clean/new totes there & use a pump (Banjo Corp?) to move water to where you need it/into your current home piping.

A marine grade water pump system is not hard to create on land.. with a dc source for electricity.. water pump with an accumulator and you can use the tank as a direct supply right to the faucet.

OTOH, a foot pump like I have on Evangeline works well too.. does not need any form of electricity and saves on water.

I installed one of these puppies last weekend in the galley.
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?...451&id=1125818

search for a water pump there as well. If you do go that route.. you need to make doubly sure that any hose you use is 'food grade' and able to handle whatever psi the water pump requires. You can get it at home depot and don't let the knuckledragger there try to tell you it is all the same.. it is NOT..

Razor 06-23-2009 12:32

Brush, usually the order of materials is reversed, with sand on the bottom. The reason is that the larger and then smaller rocks are used to catch the "big chunks" of particulate before it reaches the sand, which would quickly become covered/clogged otherwise.

The Reaper 06-23-2009 14:07

Some charcoal wouldn't hurt either.

TR

armymom1228 06-23-2009 14:31

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Originally Posted by Razor (Post 270765)
Brush, usually the order of materials is reversed, with sand on the bottom. The reason is that the larger and then smaller rocks are used to catch the "big chunks" of particulate before it reaches the sand, which would quickly become covered/clogged otherwise.

I kept looking at BO's post and knew something was wrong... I am suffering from CRS a lot lately.... One can go to an aquarium shop and get this fine grade sand used in the bottom of aquariums for filter. It works well for that particular application. TR's right, mosdef charcoal.
'Play Sand' one can aquire at any Home Depot is good, but this 'river sand' from the fish shop is even smaller sized.
AM

mugwump 07-17-2009 16:59

This looks like a good option for storing water if you see the storm coming...not much good if you hear the 'boil order' before you have time to fill it, though.

WaterBOB

I made up a kit for my folks in hurricane-land several Christmases past and included two thin plastic dropcloths-- one to line the tub and one to cover the water to prevent evaporation. This looks a bit more elegant. I have one on order and I'll write a short review when I test it out.

mugwump 07-22-2009 13:39

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Originally Posted by Rangertab1 (Post 274878)
Not sure where to ask these questions, so here seems best. Time context is the year 1450 A.D.

1. Does anyone have the basics for making/storing goat/cow cheese?
2. Does anyone know the process of creating penicillin?
3. What is the best compilation/book of Native American medicinal plants?

Sherman...didn't you learn your lesson the last time you used Mr.Peabody's Wayback Machine?

Paslode 07-22-2009 15:26

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Originally Posted by mugwump (Post 274295)
This looks like a good option for storing water if you see the storm coming...not much good if you hear the 'boil order' before you have time to fill it, though.

WaterBOB

I made up a kit for my folks in hurricane-land several Christmases past and included two thin plastic dropcloths-- one to line the tub and one to cover the water to prevent evaporation. This looks a bit more elegant. I have one on order and I'll write a short review when I test it out.


Other than evaporation, what would be the benefits of this device compared to your poly sheet kit or merely filling the tub with water?

zpo 07-22-2009 16:58

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Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 275051)
Other than evaporation, what would be the benefits of this device compared to your poly sheet kit or merely filling the tub with water?

Not who you asked, but I have those. The other advantage over filling the tub is that you won't have to filter the water to drink it. The chemicals you clean your tub (and the dirt since you probably didn't clean it before filling in an emergency) with are not great for you. The poly sheets are cheaper, but easier to contaminate your supply since the sheet is just laying there. With proper care, not a problem.


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