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CoLawman 11-10-2005 21:10

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I doubt you'd see any of this crap if the law allowed for action based on offenses like this. It's just one more example of the 1st Amendment becoming more important than the others.

I guess what I'm trying to say is: "Some people are alive, only because it's against the law to kill them." And that's a damned shame.

TANSTAAFL :D
--Aric
Fully agree!

VelociMorte 11-11-2005 09:23

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Originally Posted by lksteve
boycotting where they work might be difficult for some of us...finding their source of funds might be problematic, but i think it's the way to go...


Their funding comes from lawsuits filed by the members of this "church". Most of them have legal training, education, or backround. Their M.O. is to roll into town in the most vile manner possible (i.e....protesting at a Fallen Soldier's funeral), stir up the relatives and locals, and then file lawsuits against anyone who protests their presence, or any municipality that fails to protect their "right" to protest. Their forte is to invoke their 1st Amendment rights while denying everyone else's. In past protests, it was determined that the best way to PUBLICLY rebuke their protests was to park large vehicles (fire trucks work well) directly in front of their protests to passively shield the relatives and friends of our Fallen Soldiers from viewing these idiots.

Personally, I like to imagine the looks on their faces as Fred's head turns into a cloud of pink mist at one of these protests while his entire clan looks on in surprise and confusion.

dennisw 11-11-2005 09:48

What would have happened to these folks if they staged their protests during WWII? At a minimum, the term knuckle sandwich comes to mind.

Michelle 11-15-2005 19:26

On a GOOD note...
 
After posting and stomping around about this on every forum I belong to, received this jewel of a reply from an LEO friend of mine in Indiana:

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We have been dealing with protest from his followers here for awhile....

Just this week as a matter of fact......

One of our local State Reps is forwarding a bill to make it a crime to protest or disturb a military funeral because of them and their actions during a funeral of a local SF soldier......

Mick W
Now THAT is wonderful. If we could get every State on this bandwagon, we could shut down The Reverand O Hate as well as any others at the source, at least insofar is demonstrations at military funerals.

I guess short of "watching his head turn to pink vapor" as someone here suggested (*my vote*), the best way to deal with it is via the law. I'm going to lobby my State to follow in the footsteps of this bill.

m1

Gypsy 11-15-2005 19:34

m1 keep us posted if you can with who will be sponsoring this bill etc, I'll write to my reps as well as passing along the info. Grass roots at its finest...

Occasionally I get an email with a request if in a particular AO to stand the line so to speak and bring Flags, basically to block the view of the genetic debris from such wrenching and private moments.

Michelle 11-15-2005 19:44

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Originally Posted by Gypsy
m1 keep us posted if you can with who will be sponsoring this bill etc, I'll write to my reps as well as passing along the info. Grass roots at its finest...

Occasionally I get an email with a request if in a particular AO to stand the line so to speak and bring Flags, basically to block the view of the genetic debris from such wrenching and private moments.

Copy that Ms. Gypsy. Will do.

m1

CoLawman 11-15-2005 21:29

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Originally Posted by Gypsy
m1 keep us posted if you can with who will be sponsoring this bill etc, I'll write to my reps as well as passing along the info. Grass roots at its finest...

Occasionally I get an email with a request if in a particular AO to stand the line so to speak and bring Flags, basically to block the view of the genetic debris from such wrenching and private moments.

That occurred at our protest Gypsy. It was not only a magnificent display of 200 flags, but it also made a beautiful boulevard for the procession!

Gypsy 11-15-2005 21:53

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Originally Posted by CoLawman
That occurred at our protest Gypsy. It was not only a magnificent display of 200 flags, but it also made a beautiful boulevard for the procession!

I've seen some pictures from others CoLawman, it's a beautiful sight and a tribute at the same time.

Firebeef 11-16-2005 13:07

here's a link to our (COlawman and myself's) hometown paper, and how our community treated these morons at the funeral of PFC Tyler MacKenzie. Our Fire Department was having a Veterans Day Presentation at Station #2, and the funeral procession passed by. If there was a dry eye in blue, I sure as hell didn't see it.

RIP PFC MacKenzie

Burn in Hell Phelps & Co

http://www.greeleytrib.com/article/2...076/0/ARCHIVES

Gypsy 11-16-2005 13:11

Thanks, Firebeef!

Rest in Peace PFC MacKenzie.

Firebeef 11-16-2005 21:59

Had Phelps and his band of idiots been allowed to, or had somehow been able to pass by or station themselves near our Fire Station where our Veterans Day ceremony was being held, I'm not sure I could have restrained myself. I'm just not sure I coulda been quick enough to get in a few blows, because I don't think there was a person there who wouldn't have absoloutley relished pummeling those idiots with nirvana like abandon.

DanUCSB 11-16-2005 22:18

I can understand the urge to pummel the living goodness out of them. My only worry is that this is precisely what they want; from what I've seen, their MO is to provoke people and then manipulate the legal system against said people.

However. We have strength of arm as well as brilliant legal minds. RL? AL? What do you think about these guys? Are they claiming tax-exempt status as a church? I'm no lawyer, but can't you lose that if engaged in political activity? What else is there?

I have no doubt that the minds on our side are of a substantially higher caliber than that of Fred 'rot in hell' Phelps.

Detcord 11-17-2005 22:07

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Originally Posted by Peregrino
Can you believe this? I am beyond words. Peregrino


...According to Margie Phelps, daughter of Wesboro Baptist Church minister Fred Phelps, protesters from Topeka will stand on sidewalks holding signs that read "America Is Doomed" and "Thank God for IEDs," (IED being an "improvised explosive device," a reference to a roadside bomb or mine, which killed Piper and two of his fellow soldiers)....

Grrrrrrrrr..............

Where's a group of 17 y.o. punks with paintball guns driving around in their parents car with the plates pulled when they could actually be of value???

pfft-splat, pfft-splat, pfft-splat...

Gypsy 11-18-2005 09:24

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Originally Posted by DanUCSB
However. We have strength of arm as well as brilliant legal minds. RL? AL? What do you think about these guys? Are they claiming tax-exempt status as a church? I'm no lawyer, but can't you lose that if engaged in political activity? What else is there?

I have no doubt that the minds on our side are of a substantially higher caliber than that of Fred 'rot in hell' Phelps.

This is excellent....follow the money. Hopefully our brilliant legal minds will chime in.

Firebeef 11-20-2005 16:47

I hope that the Legal Beagles can do something. Do they pay their taxes?? I hate to say it, but the time I spent overseas, and indeed the time the men and women today spend in the line of fire are to insure that scum like Phelps, and anyone who was lucky enough to have been born in this country, have the right to their own opinions, and their right to public assmebly in support of these opinions, however despicable these opinions may be.

I am obviously not one prone to rash decisions and actions, but the primal feeling I got the morning of our Veterans Day ceremony, PFC's MacKenzies funeral, and the news that Phelps and his band of slobberin stutterin imbeciles were in town and what their intentions were....well...if they had shown up at Station #2 that morning, right at that moment..... OK, it woulda been the bad press those idiots crave....but damn it sure woulda felt good and relieved a WHOLE lotta stress....doncha know?!?!??


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