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Badger52 01-04-2021 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 665435)
That's a huge number!

And those things have ammo, if the dearth when shopping is to be believed, and the cost as well.

FWIW, I've seen unsolicited comments from ammo makers, including Win now running Lake City, that they're going as hard as they can, and that they haven't raised their price to the wholesalers or other suppliers. Demand is driving that and the retailers are the ones making those increases. Result is that $0.28/round 5.56 you stacked up awhile back appears to be the genius move of the year. "Look Honey!!! An investment that actually appreciated!"

:D

Paslode 01-08-2021 19:09

The Dems are primed to hit the road running...

I did not find any description other than the following:

Quote:

As of 01/08/2021 text has not been received for H.R.127 - To provide for the licensing of firearm and ammunition possession and the registration of firearms, and to prohibit the possession of certain ammunition.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-...-bill/127/text


Sponser: Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18]

(1VB)compforce 01-14-2021 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 665597)
The Dems are primed to hit the road running...

I did not find any description other than the following:



https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-...-bill/127/text


Sponser: Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18]


For all of you guys in the MacDill area or other sunny locations...

https://m.flsenate.gov/session/bill/...text/filed/pdf

I'm fairly certain that it never makes it through the FL Senate, but you should be aware of the attempt.

tonyz 01-14-2021 14:20

Thank you (1VB)compforce.

It’s time that Constitutional Carry bills be considered in all free states that don’t already have them.

Joker 01-14-2021 15:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by (1VB)compforce (Post 665985)
For all of you guys in the MacDill area or other sunny locations...

https://m.flsenate.gov/session/bill/...text/filed/pdf

I'm fairly certain that it never makes it through the FL Senate, but you should be aware of the attempt.

Thanks. I have engaged my state congressional members.

bblhead672 01-14-2021 16:36

Just re-read the letter that started this thread. As pertinent and important as when it was first publsihed.

Seeing the letter elsewhere brought me to the site in July 2016, and I cannot express my gratitude enough to the QP's who authored and signed it.

Also thanks to all the QP's who graciously allow this old sailor to hang around these parts.

tonyz 01-28-2021 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 665597)
The Dems are primed to hit the road running...

I did not find any description other than the following:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-...-bill/127/text

Sponser: Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18]

Here’s the text of the proposed bill:

A BILL
To provide for the licensing of firearm and ammunition possession and the registration of firearms, and to prohibit the possession of certain ammunition.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-.../text?r=17&s=1

Badger52 01-28-2021 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyz (Post 666627)
Here’s the text of the proposed bill:

Just comin' here to post & link that exact thing, thanks. I'm gettin' slow.
(and we've seen this bill before.)

tonyz 01-28-2021 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 666629)
Just comin' here to post & link that exact thing, thanks. I'm gettin' slow.
(and we've seen this bill before.)

;) Good job being on top of these bills and on this issue.

Penn 01-28-2021 21:02

As stated in another thread, subjugation to socialism requires disarming Law Abiding American Citizens.

This is a must do for the Socialist Democratic Party.

bblhead672 02-01-2021 10:16

Analysis of HR 127 by the Firearms Policy Coalition:
FightHR127.com: Stop HR 127 - Gun Licensing, Registration & Partial Ammo Ban

Quote:

Summary: Establishes a nationwide gun registry that is searchable by the general public, mandates licensing to own or possess a firearm and requires a psychological evaluation prior to obtaining such a license, and institutes magazine & gun bans.

The bill text is finally out and HR 127 is worse than we were even speculating.

HR 127 establishes a federal firearms registration system that will be accessible by federal, state, and local governments, including the military - even the GENERAL PUBLIC! The system will track the make, model, and serial number of all firearms, their owners, the dates they were acquired, and where they are being stored.

You read that right. HR 127 would make public your most private information to anti-gunners who can then dox, harass or even attack you while knowing full well every intimate detail of your self-defense systems.

tom kelly 02-02-2021 14:21

HR 127:
 
Communism is here The CCP & Zing Chow Zing wants the U S A to be like China when it comes to firearms....

pcfixer 02-03-2021 14:20

https://dailycaller.com/2021/02/02/n...ary-on-record/

January 2021 FBI NICS figure 4,288,240 reflects a 61.7 percent increase

pcfixer 02-12-2021 05:30

Caniglia v Strom
 
https://americanmilitarynews.com/202...out-a-warrant/



https://www.scotusblog.com/case-file...iglia-v-strom/

Box 02-12-2021 07:52

Dont get your hopes up for that to have a 2a friendly outcome....

Texas_Shooter 02-12-2021 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Box (Post 667007)
Dont get your hopes up for that to have a 2a friendly outcome....

Agree. They will say it’s in the community’s best interest to seize the firearms.

glebo 02-13-2021 04:51

Speaking of 2A, yesterday I decided to go with CCW Safe, a sort of 2A "insurance"...mostly for piece of mind. It's inexpensive enough, and supposedly they're pretty good.

I know it doesn't keep them from taking a weapon, but it may keep them from taking me...

I'm not wanting to use it, but it's there just in case..

pcfixer 02-13-2021 08:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Box (Post 667007)
Dont get your hopes up for that to have a 2a friendly outcome....

All of us can have hopes dashed against the wall with No BOR absolute. Not my fundamental belief, a right given by GOD can't be given, changed or removed. John Locke.

I'll stand by the Brief Amicus Curiae of Gun Owners of America, Inc.,
Gun Owners Foundation, The Heller Foundation, and Conservative
Legal Defense and Education Fund in Support of Petitioner

"B. The Exercise of Second Amendment Rights Must Not Result in the Forfeiture
of Other Constitutional Rights.


The First Circuit’s decision violates the principle that the exercise of one constitutional right may not permissibly be conditioned on the forfeiture of another
constitutional right.

page 24.... For if the government could deny a benefit to a person because
of his constitutionally protected [rights], his exercise of those freedoms would in effect be penalized and inhibited.

This would allow the government to ‘produce a result which [it] could not command directly.’ ... Such interference with constitutional rights is impermissible.”

Id. at 597. Here, Petitioner was deprived of his Fourth Amendment right to be “secure in his house ... against unreasonable searches and seizures” because he exercised his Second Amendment right to “keep ... arms....”

After Heller, Respondents cannot prohibit Petitioner from exercising his Second
Amendment right to keep a firearm in his home for
self-defense, and the First Circuit may not allow the City to deprive Petitioner of the “benefit” of the warrant requirement so as to allow his firearms to be
seized.

Heller did hold 2A is based on "Text, History & Tradition"! Both in Heller and McDonald. :munchin

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketP...us%20brief.pdf

Badger52 02-15-2021 06:26

1 Attachment(s)
Text, history & tradition unfortunately doesn't matter to the despots invoking Parkland as their next rally point.

Here's the closing paragraph of WH's latest missive to Congress.
Full text of it here.

pcfixer 02-18-2021 12:29

3D-printed firearms and liability for police shootings
 
https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/02/3...ice-shootings/

This week we highlight cert petitions that ask the Supreme Court to consider, among other things, when a state attorney general can be pulled into court in another state and when a police officer is immune from civil liability for fatally shooting a passenger in a fleeing car.

Grewal v. Defense Distributed is a dispute between the attorney general of New Jersey and a Texas company that develops digital files used to manufacture 3D-printed guns. In 2018, the attorney general, Gurbir Grewal, sent a cease-and-desist letter to Defense Distributed, warning that distributing such files to New Jersey residents over the internet would violate New Jersey law. In response, the company sued Grewal in federal court in Texas. It sought an injunction barring Grewal from taking any enforcement action against the company, which it argued would violate the First and Second Amendments.

The Texas district court dismissed the lawsuit after finding that it had no personal jurisdiction over Grewal. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit reversed and ruled that the case could proceed. Grewal argues in his cert petition that the 5th Circuit’s decision is at odds with the Supreme Court’s case law on personal jurisdiction. He also claims that the 5th Circuit created a circuit split on the question whether state officials subject themselves to jurisdiction in other states merely by sending cease-and-desist letters across state lines.

City of Hayward v. Stoddard-Nunez arises from a police officer’s fatal shooting of a passenger in a fleeing car. In 2013, an officer in Hayward, California, attempted to stop a car on suspicion of drunk driving. After initially stopping in a parking lot, the driver refused to exit the car. Instead, he drove past the officer’s patrol car and fled the scene. The officer, who testified that the car swerved toward him as it fled, fired nine shots into the car, killing a passenger. The passenger’s next-of-kin sued the officer and the city under 42 U.S.C. § 1983, arguing that the officer violated the passenger’s Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable seizures.

The district court dismissed the lawsuit, but the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit reinstated it, concluding that a reasonable jury could find that the officer fired the fatal shot after the car had already passed him and posed little threat to the officer or the public. The officer and the city ask the Supreme Court to take up the case to resolve two issues: (1) the proper of level of generality that courts should use to assess whether an officer violated “clearly established law” for the purpose of deciding whether that officer is entitled to qualified immunity, and (2) whether a shooting of a passenger under these circumstances counts as a seizure under the Fourth Amendment.

Penn 02-20-2021 01:29

We all are aware this argument concerning registration will be settled in the SCOTUS. Until then, a counter narrative just as powerful is the National Registration voter identification card, one that must be presented in order to vote. No exception. If they wish to register guns, then this must also be considered.

The socialist democrats would never win another election.

Stiletto11 02-20-2021 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penn (Post 667222)
We all are aware this argument concerning registration will be settled in the SCOTUS. Until then, a counter narrative just as powerful is the National Registration voter identification card, one that must be presented in order to vote. No exception. If they wish to register guns, then this must also be considered.

The socialist democrats would never win another election.

If you think SCOTUS will come to your rescue you’re smoking the Hopium Pipe

Badger52 02-21-2021 20:37

A list worth noting
 
Credit for this goes to AWR Hawkins in his (as usual) fine article over at Breitbart discussing the sure-to-come flailing over gun control, as called for by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

But for those who may want to find it from time to time I thought I'd include the article's list of shooting events that were conducted using firearms that had been acquired legally and through a background check. Given the task & purpose of 'the Letter' - now just over some 8 years ago - it seems worth contemplating.

Quote:

  • Virginia Beach attacker (May 31, 2019)
  • Poway Synagogue attacker (April 27, 2019)
  • Tree of Life Synagogue attacker (October 27, 2018)
  • Parkland high school attacker (February 14, 2018)
  • Texas church attacker (November 5, 2017)
  • Las Vegas attacker (October 1, 2017)
  • the Alexandria attacker (June 14, 2017))
  • Orlando attacker (June 12, 2016)
  • the UCLA gunman (June 1, 2016))
  • the San Bernardino attackers (December 2, 2015)
  • the Colorado Springs attacker (October 31, 2015)
  • the Umpqua Community College attacker (October 1, 2015)
  • Alison Parker’s attacker (August 26, 2015)
  • the Lafayette movie theater attacker (July 23, 2015)
  • the Chattanooga attacker (July 16, 2015)
  • the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal attacker (Jun 17, 2015)
  • the Muhammad Cartoon Contest attackers (May 3, 2014)
  • the Las Vegas cop killers (June 9, 2015)
  • the Santa Barbara attacker (May 23, 2014)
  • the Fort Hood attacker (April 2, 2014)
  • the Arapahoe High School attacker (December 13, 2013)
  • the D.C. Navy Yard attacker (September 16, 2013)
  • the Aurora movie theater attacker (July 20, 2012)
  • Gabby Giffords’ attacker (January 8, 2011)
  • the Fort Hood attacker (November 5, 2009)
  • the Virginia Tech attacker (April 16, 2007)


Costa 02-24-2021 10:30

Mike Lee questions Merrick Garland on the 2nd
 
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/2102/22/cnr.06.html

I don't think there were any surprises in Garland's responses. Vague, but revealing.

Box 02-24-2021 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 667264)
...list of shooting events that were conducted using firearms that had been acquired legally and through a background check.

That just proves that ALL guns are bad - more proof that the gubmint should disarm right wing extremists the same way the Earp's disarmed the McLaury's

7624U 02-25-2021 07:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by glebo (Post 667057)
Speaking of 2A, yesterday I decided to go with CCW Safe, a sort of 2A "insurance"...mostly for piece of mind. It's inexpensive enough, and supposedly they're pretty good.

I know it doesn't keep them from taking a weapon, but it may keep them from taking me...

I'm not wanting to use it, but it's there just in case..

I plan on following the law of it comes down to it. When asked on the forms. where the guns stored the answer will be in the ground. Your welcome to go look all you want in the state park. :D

bubba 02-25-2021 08:38

What’s that old saying..... “When you feel it’s time to bury your guns, it IS time to dig them up....”

pcfixer 02-25-2021 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7624U (Post 667328)
I plan on following the law of it comes down to it. When asked on the forms. where the guns stored the answer will be in the ground. Your welcome to go look all you want in the state park. :D

I'll plead the 5th. Right to remain silent.. :munchin

pcfixer 02-25-2021 12:24

https://mailchi.mp/marylandshallissu...2?e=1845c97627..:lifter

Sohei 02-25-2021 15:26

I had many, many firearms after doing 34 years combined work between the military and law enforcement. But, good for me, I was able to turn every one of them back in once I retired. I'm so happy that I don't personally own any of those evil things so it will save the government time from having to check on me.

tom kelly 02-26-2021 04:08

LYING:
 
It's a SIN to tell a lie to anyone, EXCEPT, THE FBI, LYING to them is a CRIME. Remember how the FBI came for Roger Stone, They brought CNN.

pcfixer 02-26-2021 06:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom kelly (Post 667364)
It's a SIN to tell a lie to anyone, EXCEPT, THE FBI, LYING to them is a CRIME. Remember how the FBI came for Roger Stone, They brought CNN.

Exceptions are Lois Learner and HRC!

Badger52 02-26-2021 07:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom kelly (Post 667364)
It's a SIN to tell a lie to anyone, EXCEPT, THE FBI, LYING to them is a CRIME. Remember how the FBI came for Roger Stone, They brought CNN.

CNN kiddies should take note that there are plate & carrier sales going on all over. Results may differ according to parts of the country, your mileage may vary, not an actual spokesperson, void where prohibited in certain counties.

Paslode 03-11-2021 19:35

Communist Chinese Spy Diane Feinstein has introduced the following...

Quote:

Key provisions:

Bans the sale, manufacture, transfer and importation of 205 military-style assault weapons by name. Owners may keep existing weapons.

Bans any assault weapon with the capacity to utilize a magazine that is not a fixed ammunition magazine and has one or more military characteristics including a pistol grip, a forward grip, a barrel shroud, a threaded barrel or a folding or telescoping stock. Owners may keep existing weapons.

Bans magazines and other ammunition feeding devices that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition, which allow shooters to quickly fire many rounds without needing to reload. Owners may keep existing magazines.

Requires a background check on any future sale, trade or gifting of an assault weapon covered by the bill.

Requires that grandfathered assault weapons are stored using a secure gun storage or safety device like a trigger lock.

Prohibits the transfer of high-capacity ammunition magazines.

Bans bump-fire stocks and other devices that allow semi-automatic weapons to fire at fully automatic rates.
Exemptions to bill:

The bill exempts by name more than 2,200 guns for hunting, household defense or recreational purposes.

The bill includes a grandfather clause that exempts all weapons lawfully possessed at the date of enactment.
###
https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pub...9pjyOufQzdfsX0

sfshooter 03-11-2021 22:37

The communist administrations first steps towards total control:

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/hou...11/id/1013443/


And we wonder why they are keeping troops in the capitol. I think the passivity in which their stolen election was received has confused them just a bit.

pcfixer 03-12-2021 06:00

Feinstein introduced 2012 AWB
 
https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pub...7-E09E161C83D7

Badger52 03-15-2021 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcfixer (Post 667688)

She's had that thing on the shelf for 30 years, and trots it out every 2 years since the first one sunset. Manchin from WV had better get himself a PSD because the Commie leadership in the Senate hates them some traitors.

They'll need to get accustomed to hearing "I will not comply. Your move."

pcfixer 03-22-2021 17:30

CALIFORNIA FORCED TO COMPLY IN SHARP v. BECERRA RIFLE REGISTRATION CASE

After two years of litigation over a botched computer program to register so-called “assault weapons” in California, a settlement has been reached between the state and all parties involved, the Second Amendment Foundation revealed today.

The case is known as Sharp v. Becerra. In 2016, the California Legislature created a new “assault weapon” classification requiring registration. But there was a problem with the online registration process that prevented gun owners from actually complying before the July 1, 2018 deadline, so a lawsuit was filed by several parties including SAF, the Firearms Policy Coalition, Calguns Foundation, Firearm Policy Foundation and the Madison Society Foundation, along with several private citizens.

“Under this agreement,” said SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb, “California must reopen the registration process for all individuals who possessed eligible firearms, and reimburse all plaintiffs. California DOJ is required to announce the re-opened registration period and provide notice to other known gun rights groups and law firms. This requirement especially applies to every person who called or emailed the DOJ to complain about being unable to register before or after the original deadline. The department must also conduct a public outreach campaign to notify the public about the reopened registration period.

“It’s fair to say our lawsuit prevented guns from being banned and confiscated, and their owners from being prosecuted,” he stated.

“The department must also accept paper submissions as an alternative,” he added, “on a form that gets the information required by the online registration process. It’s important that California DOJ under Xavier Becerra had to acknowledge its registration website was something of a disaster.

“As noted in the agreement,” Gottlieb continued, “hundreds of people actually contacted the California Department of Justice to seek technical assistance because they encountered problems trying to register online. When you consider the likelihood that many times the number of people who contacted DOJ became frustrated and didn’t contact the agency, we’re talking about a system breakdown that shouldn’t have happened. I’d call this an embarrassing loss and a huge setback for California gun control overall.

“Through this agreement,” he added, “all of the plaintiffs will recover our legal expenses and more importantly, thousands of honest California citizens will be able to comply with the law. DOJ must give gun owners 120 days’ advance notice that the system is re-opening.”

Note: At this point in time, I'm still "I will Not Comply".

Badger52 03-22-2021 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcfixer (Post 667887)
Note: At this point in time, I'm still "I will Not Comply".

They have also had the passage of time and, my wager, there are now more hardened hearts out there than before. How many decimal points can 0% compliance be carried out to?

NurseTim 03-24-2021 15:55

The 46 administration is urging the scotus to clear the way for warrantless searches for gun confiscations.

Have we had enough yet?

For all the retards that believe the police and military will not follow orders, though blatantly unconstitutional, stop it! History is against you. Do you want me to start with the new york draft riots and work forward? Or the grazing land incident in Nevada and work back?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksib...h=4bc640272829


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