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bblhead672 09-09-2019 16:00

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Originally Posted by Box (Post 653013)

It has NEVER
EVER
EVER EVER EVER
been about "gun control" - its about population control

I find myself saying this about once a week lately...it's not about the guns..it's about the control. Taking away guns makes total control much easier.

rsdengler 09-10-2019 11:31

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Originally Posted by bblhead672 (Post 653043)
I find myself saying this about once a week lately...it's not about the guns..it's about the control. Taking away guns makes total control much easier.

Lol...That's why I just bought myself a new pistol and ammo....I'm stocking up....:D I don't think anyone can control me; not even them......

tonyz 09-10-2019 12:08

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Originally Posted by rsdengler (Post 653047)
I just bought myself a new pistol and ammo....I'm stocking up...

Good for you. Train, be responsible and set a good example for other responsible firearm owners.

Hopefully, you will find others in your area that share your new found interest.
:lifter

Box 09-10-2019 12:24

Anytime you put a new pistol and some fresh ammo in your hand - you are having a good day.


Old or new - any caliber - as long as bullets are being shot - to paraphrase the Doritos commercial:

Shoot all you want, we'll make more

bblhead672 09-10-2019 17:31

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Originally Posted by rsdengler (Post 653047)
Lol...That's why I just bought myself a new pistol and ammo....I'm stocking up....:D I don't think anyone can control me; not even them......

Remember, your pistol is for fighting to get to your rifle!

SF_BHT 09-11-2019 09:50

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Originally Posted by bblhead672 (Post 653053)
Remember, your pistol is for fighting to get to your rifle!

remember you have to have enough scattered around so you do not have to go far to get one.:D

My daughter was visiting last month and as she opened each closet she found a rifle or shotgun and asked why they were all spread out. I told her as I shoot the intruder with my pistol I only have 4-9 feet to go to get to the big guns. She thought about it and said not a bad idea...:eek::D

rsdengler 09-11-2019 11:13

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Originally Posted by bblhead672 (Post 653053)
Remember, your pistol is for fighting to get to your rifle!

Ha, that's my next purchase.....a nice rifle.....I may go for a Browning....:o

Badger52 09-11-2019 16:14

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Originally Posted by rsdengler (Post 653058)
Ha, that's my next purchase.....a nice rifle.....I may go for a Browning....:o

Did you want that on a tripod or... ;)


(Edit, bumped Enter key too quickly)

It does continue to be interesting, each day, as the 2020 aspirants continue to pull the curtain back and try to outdo themselves in just how tyrannical they posture. I think that their actual support on specific draconian measures is relatively small - but it is vocal. The downside is that much of America, unschooled in history or what a preeminent right is (per the plan), is rather 50:50 and are the people at which the ubiquitous term "reasonable" is aimed at. And they'll say, "Sure, that sounds ok."

Box 09-11-2019 20:35

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Looking for a Browning Rifle?
Like this one...................................


MEE TOO !!!

rsdengler 09-12-2019 07:42

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Lol...more like this: I think Browning's are awesome....that's just me, I like the look and quality of them. A lot of them are high in price, I think this one is a bit lower. But Sweet.....:D

Peregrino 09-12-2019 09:05

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Originally Posted by rsdengler (Post 653069)
Lol...more like this: I think Browning's are awesome....that's just me, I like the look and quality of them. A lot of them are high in price, I think this one is a bit lower. But Sweet.....:D

Ummmm? That's a shotgun, a very nice one (I wouldn't mind having one myself) but definitely not a rifle. Box has the right idea. And before you start tossing around whatever disposable income you have, you might want to give serious consideration to why you want to buy a rifle. Until you win the lottery and have the disposable income to buy all your "wants", purchases should be guided by requirements. Personally, I think an MSR is the ideal solution for persons wanting to exercise/defend their Constitutional rights. Address that requirement then you can acquire something that'll look "esthetic" (and not offend the Fudds) when putting Bambi in the freezer. MOO, YMMV.

rsdengler 09-12-2019 10:16

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Originally Posted by Peregrino (Post 653073)
Ummmm? That's a shotgun, a very nice one (I wouldn't mind having one myself) but definitely not a rifle. Box has the right idea. And before you start tossing around whatever disposable income you have, you might want to give serious consideration to why you want to buy a rifle. Until you win the lottery and have the disposable income to buy all your "wants", purchases should be guided by requirements. Personally, I think an MSR is the ideal solution for persons wanting to exercise/defend their Constitutional rights. Address that requirement then you can acquire something that'll look "esthetic" (and not offend the Fudds) when putting Bambi in the freezer. MOO, YMMV.

Lol...No, I really want it for Skeet Shooting, sorry I know it's a shotgun..but I wouldn't mind having a rifle at a later date. :)

Peregrino 09-12-2019 10:40

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Originally Posted by rsdengler (Post 653058)
Ha, that's my next purchase.....a nice rifle.....I may go for a Browning....:o

Oh - I'm sorry; it's not what you said, it's what you meant to say. The wife does that to me all the time. You'd think I'd know better by now. :rolleyes:

rsdengler 09-12-2019 11:14

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Originally Posted by Peregrino (Post 653076)
Oh - I'm sorry; it's not what you said, it's what you meant to say. The wife does that to me all the time. You'd think I'd know better by now. :rolleyes:

Ha, ha....well I'm still a bit of a novice with rifles/shoot guns/and pistols. I do get to handle some nice rifles, handguns and shot guns at my local gun store. I just do a bit of window shopping and get to play with the merchandise. :D One of these days I'll breakdown and purchase one.....

bblhead672 09-12-2019 13:02

This could also go under the "Civil War" thread.

Nearly a Third of Democrats Say It Should Be Illegal to Join the NRA
https://pjmedia.com/trending/nearly-...-join-the-nra/

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The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that nearly one-out-of-three Likely Democratic Voters (32%) favor declaring the gun rights group a terrorist organization in the community where they live. Fourteen percent (14%) of Republicans and 20% of voters not affiliated with either major party agree.

Twenty-eight percent (28%) of Democrats say Americans should be prohibited by law from belonging to pro-gun rights organizations like the NRA, a view shared by 15% of Republicans and 10% of uanffiliateds.

Among all likely voters, 23% favor declaring the NRA a terrorist organization in their home community, while 18% think it should be against the law to belong to pro-gun rights groups like the NRA.
Sadly, it doesn't even surprise me to find that 15% of so-called republicans agree with the communists.

Badger52 09-16-2019 13:29

Parkland Dad has the right idea
 
Father of Parkland shooting victim:
'Guns didn’t kill my daughter, Democratic policies did'

Money quote:
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"To me, gun control would’ve been if they arrested him for punching his mother’s teeth out and he got a background,” explained Pollack. "Democrats put these policies in place that don't believe in holding kids accountable or arresting them while they're juveniles...so if they don't arrest them and they don't get a background, then they're able to purchase weapons legally and a background check is useless," he said.
Full story of the interview here.

bblhead672 09-20-2019 09:07

Once again, I find myself distributing the letter you gentlemen released to those who cannot grasp that there are capable people resistant to a tyrannical government whose objective is the gutting and eventual elimination of the right to keep and bear arms.

Lemmings, hiding behind their comfort and the teachings of those who bow to the government as the ultimate arbitrator of their existence. They cannot bear to grasp the reality of what the communists are trying to do, they cannot accept that the communists will not be willing to let the people "passively resist" by not turning in their firearms. They cannot bring themselves to believe that a communist controlled US government will send armed agents, both willing law enforcement and military, to their doors to take the weapons.

Even here in Texas, too many gun owners are willing to go along with increasing infringements in hope that it will never reach the stated goals of the communists.
They continue to believe in the Republican party and the NRA as their saviors.

(Sorry about the vent, really frustrated this morning after arguing with idiots all week.)

frostfire 09-21-2019 05:09

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Originally Posted by SF_BHT (Post 653054)
remember you have to have enough scattered around so you do not have to go far to get one.:D

My daughter was visiting last month and as she opened each closet she found a rifle or shotgun and asked why they were all spread out. I told her as I shoot the intruder with my pistol I only have 4-9 feet to go to get to the big guns. She thought about it and said not a bad idea...:eek::D

I’ve been immersed in anti-2A liberal environment for the last two years. So much so I know what my peers would say: you’re a horrible person. I would never go to your house or let my family n friends go either. What a poor daughter to have to deal with such influence /sarc/

Yea i keep my mouth shut here. Even some of those charged w our security are openly anti 2a. Keep your friends close.......

Gotta love the previous drug guys. They told me in a Benghazi scenario to head over to their Armory and make myself useful. Also when we are out and about, one always tells me where the “snacks” are.

Every now and then, I meet another closet gun guy and can be myself again:D

tom kelly 09-23-2019 00:43

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Originally Posted by Box (Post 653065)
Looking for a Browning Rifle?
Like this one...................................


MEE TOO !!!

It won't be long before some company makes an 80% Johnny Gun receiver along with the jig to drill out the 20% and there you have a BAR in multiple calibers; .308, 5.56, .3006, 6.5 x55 SWD.

Box 09-23-2019 06:21

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Originally Posted by tom kelly (Post 653196)
It won't be long before some company makes an 80% Johnny Gun receiver along with the jig to drill out the 20% and there you have a BAR in multiple calibers; .308, 5.56, .3006, 6.5 x55 SWD.


Just the hope of such an endeavor is enough to cause a freedom boner.

Joker 10-03-2019 11:16

Time to call/write your Senators in opposition to Fienstien’s gun grabbing bill.

Badger52 10-03-2019 20:24

I always get a kick out of these slugs when they plug in exemptions for "possession by a retired law enforcement officer." Creates a new class of special citizen (which means, "you get yours, so vote for mine").

I have nothing for her but acronyms like GFY and BFYTW. But then I'm one of those scary people Napolitano wrote about so...

Uman 10-03-2019 22:23

Support for Joker from the SBF position
 
US Capital Switch board

202 224 3121

This should be in everyones contacts

Hand 10-04-2019 06:00

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A BILL

To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
I'll be making a call to my Senators office today.

I used to think these people were either ignorant or un-informed. But seeing them including barrel shrouds in the list of things defined as "assault weapons" makes me now think otherwise.

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“(36) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means any of the following, regardless of country of manufacture or caliber of ammunition accepted:

“(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:

“(i) A pistol grip.

“(ii) A forward grip.

“(iii) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock, or is otherwise foldable or adjustable in a manner that operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of the weapon.

“(iv) A grenade launcher.

“(v) A barrel shroud.

“(vi) A threaded barrel.

tom kelly 10-04-2019 14:37

The Radicals:
 
The ultra liberal "progressive" leftist want all of our guns, increase out taxes, force socialism upon us, and turn this country into a communist state that they control with propaganda from the main stream media." If you own the language, you own the narrative. IMHO the Second Civil War started on 9 April 1865, when Gen. Robert E. Lee surrendered and ended the 1st Civil War.

Badger52 10-04-2019 20:24

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Originally Posted by tom kelly (Post 653349)
... 9 April 1865, when Gen. Robert E. Lee surrendered and ended the 1st Civil War.

Concur. The top-hatted despot proved that all that stuff in the founding documents about a voluntary coalition of states & that a state could peacefully leave when it and the Republic were at odds was a load of horsehockey if the right despot had the right amount of power.

CSB 10-04-2019 21:11

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Concur. The top-hatted despot proved that all that stuff in the founding documents about a voluntary coalition of states & that a state could peacefully leave when it and the Republic were at odds was a load of horsehockey if the right despot had the right amount of power.
I have a problem with that, and here's why:

In the Constitution our founding fathers provided for the creation of the Union (by the ratification of a specified number of states); they provided for the creation/addition of additional states (such as territories making application to become states; or even a state splitting into two states such as Virginia/West Virginia).

But nowhere in the Constitution or any amendments is there any contemplation or process for a State to leave the Union.

You would think that if leaving the Union was a possibility, the Constitution would have provided the rationale and the process.

- Majority vote by a state, ratified by a majority vote of both houses of Congress?

- A motion made by a state's legislature and signed by the state's governor,
thereafter approved by a majority vote of both houses of Congress? 2/3 vote?, 3/4 vote? of one or both houses of Congress?

Compare and contrast (as my high school social studies teacher would say) the rather express one way in, no way out provisions of the United States Constitution,

with the provisions of Article 50 of the Treaty of the European Union, a "treaty" that is the de facto "constitution of the United States of Europe," and expressly provides for a member of the Union to withdraw from the Union.

Yes, it still has gaps and unclear terms, but Article 50, leading now to "Brexit" as England departs the European Union, at least embraces the concept that a state/nation can join a Union, but then thereafter decide ... under provisions in the establishing document ... to withdraw from that Union.

Our United States Constitution has no "Article 50." For better or for worse, we are wedded for life.

Or as that same teacher said many years ago:

"Can a State leave the United States? No. We settled that at a courthouse in a place called Appomattox."

Badger52 10-05-2019 06:01

CSB, I appreciate your input, really.

My issue with the "settled at Appomattox" view is that the criteria cited is something settled by force of arms. It takes the view that "we settled it because we kicked their ass."

My view is that nowhere in the Constitution is such a mechanism prohibited. Several states had individually petitioned the national government on this issue with their grievances prior to hostilities, those grievances falling upon deaf ears. It could be a comparison of:

- "That which is not explicitly permitted is denied." Seems rather statist to me. (And, honestly, I don't recognize the existence of the EU's documents to be a retroactive vindication of the Appomattox verdict.)

Contrasted with:

- "That which is not expressly denied is permitted." In my view that is more in keeping with the larger tenor of the founding documents of a limited national government, all else being reserved to the states.

bblhead672 10-15-2019 10:06

If the premise is that once a state is "in" there's no Constitutional way out, the only recourse I see is to burn it all down and start over.

It appears that the communists are taking this path already with little resistance from the masses. They are working diligently to void the Constitution and fundamentally change the United States.
Once they achieve their gun control/confiscation goals history tells us what happens to the "deplorables."

Badger52 10-29-2019 14:57

Turn-in or Register
 
Biden just did a Beto on his campaign.


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Part of Democrat presidential hopeful Joe Biden’s overarching gun control plan is to pay AR-15 owners to surrender their rifles or allow them to keep the guns, as long as they register them with the government.

Biden’s plan would apply not only to AR-15s but also to AK-47s, variants of both rifles, and other firearms that Democrats label as “assault weapons.” The call to surrender or register would also apply to “high capacity” magazines.
Rest at the link above.
:munchin

bblhead672 10-30-2019 10:01

Gun Grabbers Misleading Us

Mr. Williams is spot on.

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Americans who call for stricter and stricter gun control know that getting rid of rifles will do little or nothing for the nation's homicide rate. Their calls for more restrictive gun laws are part of a larger strategy to outlaw gun ownership altogether. You have to wonder what these people have in store for us when they've eliminated our means to defend ourselves.
I don't have to wonder, I can read history demonstrating what they have in store for us.

Ret10Echo 11-01-2019 17:23

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Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 653798)
Biden just did a Beto on his campaign.




Rest at the link above.
:munchin

Well looks like the "Beto Approach" of talking as whacked-out leftist as possible to get attention has resulted in his ending his campaign.


Big Curly Bill on that one...

Well.... Bye

Badger52 11-01-2019 19:44

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Originally Posted by Ret10Echo (Post 653854)
Big Curly Bill on that one...

Well.... Bye

I'm sad to see him go, poor thing. The Dems hated him because he blasphemed, to wit: "What the hell are you doing actually SAYING OUT LOUD what we all secretly think? NEVer do that, NEVer!"

Anytime they can step on their jock strap with track shoes and pull the curtain back for more of America to see I'm all for it.
:boohoo

Intel NCO 11-01-2019 21:40

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Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 653856)
I'm sad to see him go, poor thing. The Dems hated him because he blasphemed, to wit: "What the hell are you doing actually SAYING OUT LOUD what we all secretly think? NEVer do that, NEVer!"

Anytime they can step on their jock strap with track shoes and pull the curtain back for more of America to see I'm all for it.
:boohoo

Truth. The real sin is publicizing the efforts to destroy the Second Amendment of the USC..

rsdengler 11-04-2019 10:23

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Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 653856)

Anytime they can step on their jock strap with track shoes and pull the curtain back for more of America to see I'm all for it.
:boohoo


LOL, I don't think Beto Frito could wear a jock strap, I don't think he has big enough balls to support......:p

Another idiot Dem flushed down the toilet.....

Box 11-04-2019 12:14

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Lets not kid ourselves - the DNC never once considered Beto as a nominee.
They still dont consider Bernie to be a viable nominee and I doubt they have any real interest in Kamalamala Harris or Chief Lies-a-beth WarHen either

These idiots are like a canaries in a coal mine.
Put them in a cage - and carry them into the campaign-shaft. When the carbon monoxide of public opinion kills one of your birds, turn around and go back to the surface long enough to adjust your messaging...
...when the public shows how they feel about being forcefully disarmed, release your idiotic candidate into the wild and adjust the parties message
...test out public opinion on crime stats with a dope smoking hippy that slept her way up the political and adjust your message based on the results
...when FaceBook lets you know that a victory will result in legal action against your message, adjust the party message and let Speaker Pelosi fire a few passive aggressive arrows about budget reality at the offending squaw
...let your crazy communist uncle continuously desensitize the public reality about economics while simultaneously testing the air quality in the campaign mine shaft

Then if it starts to look like the parties handlers cant keep the former VP on track, you can cut him free and run the cool gay-guy-slash-combat-vet as your nominee and then tighten him up with the former first lady as a running mate.
Dress them both up in frilly purple outfits and call it a day....

tom kelly 11-04-2019 12:49

The Radical DNC: Presidential Candidate:
 
Look's like the present group of Demo POTUS candidates are self-destructing. The DNC Convention will be "Brokered" & will produce a winner who is ?????????????

Trapper John 11-04-2019 13:48

Don't know 'bout the rest of yous guys, but I'm enjoyin' the Badger52 v CSB debate!:munchin

grog18b 11-07-2019 11:57

Amend the Constitution to provide States a way out.

"Surrender assault weapons?" Two words. First one starts with F

tonyz 12-04-2019 16:58

> 2,000,000 instances of freedom exercised EACH month during the calendar year 2019...first time ever to reach that level per month EVERY month.

NICS Firearm Background Checks:
Month/Year
November 30, 1998 - November 30, 2019

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...month_year.pdf


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