They keep using that word... Tolerance. I do not think it means, what they think it means.

...but then they just change the definition so words mean whatever they want these days.

...and I find it amusing that the only viewpoints THEY tolerate are their own, and attack other people who's views differ.

I can handle the intolerance it has been around for a long time. It is the way that they are consumed with hatred towards anyone who does not see things their way that bothers me the most. For the time being I believe that there are more of us than there are of them and that will be enough to keep the wackiest of the left out of the White House at least for another four years.

POWER: Might makes RIGHT.
 

Before starting "My View" on this Thread let me acknowledge that I Know that Everyone in the internet universe can read these posts. First, The left, liberal, radical progressive has come out of the closet in every segment of American (only the U S) culture. Their socialist philosophy is a cancer that has consumed American Values. The Democrat Political machine is trying to have a Coup d' e-tat with the sham impeachment of the elected POTUS as you read this. The Radical left democrat politicians in congress are trying to steal the U S A and since they are a cancer that has no enemies they must be neutralized if we the grass roots right are to survive. I have said this before that there can be no peaceful separation between the Radical left and the conservatives there is only one solution. STOP the Radical Left NOW, call your Senator in Wash.D C and DEMAND THEY VOTE TO END THIS SHAM IMPEACHMENT. "Mark My Words" by John Mark...Look it up u-tube.

I agree with ^^ TK ^^, this is happening now because the '60s socialist, communist, radical revolutionaries now have one foot in the grave and this is their last hurrah. And they will not go quietly. They are out for blood and ANTIFA, MS-13, and other gangs are to be their berserker troops.

I’ve been saying this for awhile now. Hollywood types (Cher, Alec Baldwin, Robert De Niro, et all) have been less bashful and more open about their opinions but it is interesting to watch the old school politicians come out of the closet and join with the elitist class of socialist educated millennials like AOC.

It will end about as well as it has historically, in flames! Just ask Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot, and that guy currently running Venezuela into the ground. Examples the left and socialist have a hard time recognizing.

Unlike those examples we still have our guns...when does the shooting war begin? ETA: And more importantly - can we avoid it?

Exactly. I don't expect it to last long but I don't see how we can avoid it. With most large Demon run cities inviting illegals and homeless into their jurisdictions and, increasingly, releasing violent criminals, quickly, back onto the streets, I don't see how it can be avoided. It largely depends on the Sheriffs of the various counties. Only they can deputize citizens and avoid vigilante justice. But...will they step up? The VA Sheriffs are showing promise and, hopefully, the way.

We shall see.

Armatures vs. Professionals
 

As the old axiom goes, “Armatures study tactics, Professionals study logistics”. The logistical underbelly associated with all metro areas is where the real fight will be. I foresee the average LEO response in the rural areas to be similar to the VA experience. The real UW effort will be controlling the logistical areas surrounding the cities vis-à-vis Food / Water and Fuel / Electricity. All cities are on what is known as “just-in-time” logistical structures where by the food on the shelves will be gone in less than 24 hours without re-supply. If this all kicks off (likely due to a commie president / congress that collapses the USD similar to the housing crises), avoid major urban areas, and be prepared to control the perimeter of them to keep the rats on the ship. The absolute longest this will continue will be one winter as long as the urban population is forced to stay in their utopia thereby forcing them to accept the conditions set by the rural populations. Those conditions will likely look like a set of amendments to the USC that returns this nation to a Republic where the rule of law over government is restored.

But I’m just a Grunt, trained to carry a SATCOM, working as an instructor at a Sniper School..... what do I know?:munchin:munchin

This is the Left's strength and weakness. Their cities have most of the ports and they think that they will be well supplied. But, they also believe that the military will be on their side. They are wrong. The Coast Guard and Navy will cut off shipping and neighboring states like AZ, NV, ID, etc., will cut off rail and road service to CA and likewise around the other coastal cities. Air service is more difficult but not sufficient to be very effective except to small extent. The 'berserkers" I mentioned earlier will then prey on them. Game! Set! and eventually, Match.

I bet the right small number of people could stop OTR truck traffic servicing a metro hive. Difficulties with utilities (and thence, telecomm) that make EBT cards inop would put that predator/prey relationship in stark floodlight and redefine "just in time" lol.

A former colleague I used to hang with on some planning cell projects back in the day is still in the area and, both retired, we chat now & then, running "what if's" like we're still kids. And I still listen; 'cause he's the best logistician I ever met.

Interesting tidbit on personal logistic when shtf.

When Hurricane Irene hit NYC, our little family made the decision to wait it out in Upper Bucks County, PA. We invited dear close friends and family members to join us. Gracia, da Nada. We are Good, you sure? Yes!

Situated with the basic’s: sterno for heat and cooking, solar lamps, the larder that only a restaurant can supply, Irene afforded us a family campout reunion. We were good for the entire event.

Those that chose not to leave Manhattan’s Upper East Side, (84th&Park) Chelsea (24th & 10th), and Long Islands gold coast, suffered horribly, with attempted break in’s, using the family car for heat, without food, for those on Long Island, without water for several days, they were regretful, but have not altered their behavior post Irene.

Alerted to this possible pandemic, 2 comments in the derogatory stated “prepper” in the negative and one “your such a “Trumpster”.

If, God forbid, we settle this political dispute by force, its a mismatch of epic proportions. My one question is in that scenario how does the Combined Military of the The United States react, remember McArthur's clearing the Capitol of WW1 Veterans, The Oath we all swore to, react. Are we Patriots or revolutionaries.

A young man I work with & I have this conversation often. He did a hitch with the army in Afghanistan & I've asked what his opinion of the people he knew would "just following orders" if faced with armed resistance attempting to restore our Republic. He figured about 10%. I argue that the number would be much higher especially in states where LEO was already used to enforcing tyrannical laws to pad the state coffers. (You have to protect those dental plans). Both of us have no idea what the numbers would be of the combined .mil/leo that would side with the left in the US. If the .mil was called up via the NG, I believe it would not turn out favorable for the left in the court of public opinion.

Look at one lone determined individual did in CA, Chris Dorner pretty much shut down LEO in a large part of the state by himself. Imagine what a number of small teams of determined Patriots could do to disrupt utilities, distribution networks, .gov day to day operations, etc. Look at the number of Patriots that showed up for Lobby Day in VA. I read elsewhere that the number of Patriots were anywhere from 22k to 80k. Conservatively, the low number would put the ratio of 4:1 Patriot to LEO of any flavor including the state NG. The scary part is that the dems in VA don't seem to see it or even care as they continue to push through their anti gun agenda.

At this stage, IMO, in order to keep any momentum garnered from the VA Lobby Day event, we should be aligning ourselves with the local Sheriff's in every one of the counties that were declared a gun sanctuary county. Non-violent civil disobedience is the next step & every county should send the FU message to Richmond. Patriots in every other state should follow suit. Our elected representatives need to re-learn that they work for us, not the other way around.

Man, there's no room for conjecture re:2A.
Y'all just be bored. Go to the range and burn a can.:lifter

+1 FWIW, the individual VCDL chapters didn't go back to bed after Lobby Day. They continue to work with those, particularly Sheriffs, that they were working with to get the sanctuaries in the first place. Doomsayers will say what they want but VA is still ahead of most. About 56 of Obama's states need to get their frickin' asses in gear, in one respect or another, most rikki-tik.
:munchin

The weak point is truck stops.
Typically located on the outskirts of cities, and refueling infrastructure is easily damaged.

Cascading failure in logistics will happen quickly.
https://www.trucking.org/ATA%20Docs/...ca%20Stops.pdf

Well, after this past week with more of Nervous Nancy on display ...I stand by my original post...she has terminal TDS...Trump Derangement Syndrome...and she has clearly lost her mind.

Nancy Pelosi may think she accomplished something by tearing that paper in half...
...clearly she has never seen what Flex Seal can do.

Lol, “to show you the power of Flexxx Seal...I just ripped this speech in half”

~Nancy The Ripper

Democrats are prone to ripping in public...

Just like a good anecdote to disease having an outsider as the POTUS has drawn out the ugly reality of leftist....even moderate and liberal Democrats are seeing the insanity of the left. I have said it many times to those who vote Democrat that you are voting for all the baggage of the insanity along with your preferred policies. Tyranny of LGBTQ infiltrating our schools, the cities ruled by leftist policies are the violent social disease ridden cesspools they envision for the entire country, high taxes that will kill jobs and force companies to move out of the country, attacks on the wealthy, more marijuana laws for Democrat creating a more empathetic citizenry and cities that smell like skunks sprayed them, destructive social policies that keep minorities specifically the apathetic and downtrodden desperate dependent on government welfare programs, the divisive identity politics of the left, eventual Oligarchies replacing the republic meaning all opportunities to rise above your station will be gone, all freedoms protected in the bill of rights will be gone. Vote Democrat and that is what you are also voting for. They don't understand the complexity of the deceit in in the swamp Sanders, Gabbard and Buttigieg will never be selected by the swampycorrupt DNC to represent the party....they are too honest for their tastes but Warren and Biden are already indoctrinated on the slimy inner workings of D.C......America elected Trump because we can see it and so do a lot of Democrats as well. The inner circle of DC living n their own isolated bubbles of corruption ignoring the people they represent for their own deviant desires of power and wealth. Americans need to decimate its political representatives this election and get rid of the old gatekeepers and start the government fresh with new believers.

No matter what becomes the Trump legacy, the biggest single achievement is that the proverbial curtain has been pulled back. That curtain is in actuality peoples' eyelids, now opened. Many may have wondered whether that substance was blood or some other kind of stain. Trump is the bottle of hydrogen peroxide the left has never had dripped on them.

Even wannabe or slightly tentative true believers will often not quit and are in the dictionary under "cognitive dissonance." I've met many people who voted for Obama simply because they "wanted to think of myself as being part of something historic." Then they realized what an unqualified disaster he was. Change behavior? Nope. Let's do it again because "frankly I was embarassed that I could've been so duped the first time."

They won't quit. So tell your wife hitting the bulk ammo sale really IS about the zombie apocalypse.

Nancy Pelosi:
 

She has become a TOOL of the Radical Left, watching her pander to the radical liberal left democrat base was pathetic. She is an old swamp dwelling politico trying to hold on to power. When the radical left are done with her, she will be swept aside and forgotten. SAYO'UNA'RA nancy pelosi, BON VOYAGE...

Pelosi has always been a radical leftist. She just no longer feels the need to fake moderation or decorum to maintain her leadership role, since the rest of the caucus, especially those with seniority in leadership positions, is so far left it does not matter anymore.

For reference, here are her Americans for Democratic Action (leftist) and American Conservative Union ratings for her first few years in Congress:

1987 - 93 - 0
1988 - 100 - 0
1989 - 95 - 4
1990 - 100 - 0
1991 - 90 - 0
1992 - 90 - 0
1993 - 95 - 0

And in several cases where she did not get full credit from the ADA, it was because she did not cast a vote, not because she went against the left's position on the particular vote. Another was her vote on NAFTA, since that legislation, originally negotiated by the Bush Administration but put to a vote under the Clinton Administration, divided the left, especially the old-school industrial union left (as opposed to the new-school public-sector union left).

I’m watching Nancy Pelosi rambling in a press conference...objectively...she would be unimpressive leading my HOA meeting...

...and she is the current Speaker of the House of Representatives...behind only the Vice President in line of succession to the President.

I’m sure she knows the ins-and-outs of the swamp and where all the bodies are buried but geez what an uninspiring leader.

You give her way too much credit. "uninspiring leader " would be more appropriate.

Oh, you are correct...but in point of fact she IS a HIGH RANKING political leader...it is really astounding if you watch her press conferences objectively and picture her as leading a PTA meeting or a local neighborhood meeting...

...underwhelming and irritating.

Damn, she’s really next in line if Trump and Pence were to go down. Just damn !

She reminds me of a play I saw at a Valentines Day combination custume-party-baseball-game....


Cupid Bunt

Crackerjack name for an operation. Not going to get made into a Hallmark movie though.

She reminds me of a drunken bar fly who frequents the same bar stool at her favorite establishment.....You know, the one who just rambles on and spills her drink.....:D

You speaking from lots of experience ?

Hahahaha....No, I'm not much of a drinker and I stay away from bars these days....;)

Every time I see this thread my first thoughts are "Well, it wasn't a great loss."

The same type of drunken bar fly that a Fort Bragg Paratrooper living in the 1980's would have found at the Apex, or the Fire Fly, or the Dragon Club, or the Shady Lady, or the Sugar Shack, or any of the other uncharacteristically classy Fort Bragg establishments...




It does cause a chuckle when a post ends with "I stay away from bars these days..."
...lord only knows what was going on in "those" days

To demonstrate further how depraved this alcoholic nutbag is she tried to insert taxpayer funded abortions into the emergency Coronavirus bill. Seriously in the middle of a pandemic she's playing politics with funding that will be used to combat a disease. To their credit other democrats insisted that it be stripped from the bill and be added to another spending bill where the parties can fight over it.

I don't wish harm on anyone but if this virus is going to ravage senior citizens I'd much rather it be her than some decent person who have spent their entire lives trying to live this world a better place.

Or the trailer at the end of the dirt road in Harnett County with the red light on the porch....... Just sayin' :D

"Classy Fort Bragg Establishments" TODAY ?
 

[QUOTE=Box;656398]The same type of drunken bar fly that a Fort Bragg Paratrooper living in the 1980's would have found at the Apex, or the Fire Fly, or the Dragon Club, or the Shady Lady, or the Sugar Shack, or any of the other uncharacteristically classy Fort Bragg establishments...

A MUST VISIT DESTINATION: Patty's Irish Pub;2606 Raeford Road; Fayetteville,NC This classy pub features Patty Gibney, singing his favorites "The ALICE SONG", The Pussey Cat Song & others...The female clientele are really great.???

Nancy Pelosi’s Accomplishments
 

* We must not discount all Nan’s and her liberal friends out in Cali regarding their accomplishments *
https://needtoknow.news/2020/03/flee...ee-enterprise/

Fort Benning before they cleaned it up was also some of the same type back in the 80-90's

The CSM (ret) Cab Drivers knew where everything was on both posts.

Hahahaha there were not very many "winners" on Victory Drive.
Way back when the "Traffic Light" was NOT something that prevented accidents

This just in!
 

POTUS declares Nat'l Emergency. Pelosi Permission Card Revoked; Heads Explode!

That explains all the dust in the air over DC.