I think the parallels will become obvious during the investigation. Don't count on the news to inform you of the truth...they will work tirelessly to obfuscate what happened and who these losers were.

As I said, there is an agenda here...

I saw that the other day. The pic is too grainy to make any positive ID.

Here we go,,
Get your red hot tin foil..

A good number of EBR's, ton's of Hi-Cap Mags, Bump-fire stocks, Tannerite and Ammonium Nitrate all propped up in one crazy dudes room. As agendas go this may have been a perfect storm for Gun Haters and this guy Poddock took one to further the Liberal JiHad.

And it seems to have been successful to some degree with Paul Ryan and may other Rino's running for cover because the sky is falling.

When was the "91 Fest" concert announced? Probably 6 months ago. Whatever the when, that's his planning window, his lead time. His cache of weapons at the hotel, in Mesquite, NV, house in Reno, incl ammonium nitrate, electronic surveillance planning, room location, shooting plats, no military background, a loner addicted to gambling, girlfriend sent to the PI, $100K wired to her, etc, etc all this required some fairly complex planning. I can't buy that he worked without some help. That sort of a shithead can't survive in a vacuum, and you can bet he rehearsed his shots some place. Loner my ass.

I am not ruling out he had some help. but from what ive seen I don't find it necessary for him to need help to accomplish this wholesale slaughter of our fellow Americans.

Everyone makes the assumption that this guy was a dumb ass and did not know how to use his guns because he was untrained. I would counter that he has been buying AR-15 style rifles since the late 80's and has had plenty of range time to become good enough to qualify as a sharpshooter in the Army. (not difficult)

I would also counter that he was the type of guy that would be the owner of lots of manuals on how to do things. This would give him enough information to be dangerous depending how much time he has had reading case studies of prior shootings and tactic's. After all that's all army manuals are is lessons learned from stuff that has worked before after others have paid the price in blood.

And my final point and I will shut up, people that are Crazy tend to have high intelligence they just lack other traits that make them normal. they think they are smarter then everyone else and he may have thought he could get away based on normal police response times, But when faced with the reality that he could not get away as planned. (Security guard interruption that he thought was a Vegas Cop?) He was then faced with the reality he was not as smart as he thought he was and then made a choice and we now see the results. (time will tell)

Agreed, This guy may not be the classic dictionary definition, by he looks to be close. His one area, mathematics and gambling.

The fact that he could function so long as a "normal" individual is misleading. No one was looking for the problems, or his family refused to recognize the extent to which he had slipped..

:mad:

I have to agree with 7621U's take on the shooter he was crazy but he was no idiot. Anyone could be capable of causing such a massive amount of casualties all he had to do was fire into a dense crowd, he was not aiming he was pointing and we are all familiar with the term shooting fish in a barrel.

Gotta agree with a lot of this as I fit the description. No urge to climb a water tower or rent a hotel room though. No time in the military but have a lot of military manuals including Plaster's book.

I don't even think you need much in the way of marksmanship skills. Huge crowd, maybe limited exits, spry and pray rules the day.

An interesting read...

https://www.facebook.com/notes/john-...5111388257055/

Thanks for those Links. I'm about 3/4 of the way through the second hour now.

From what I can pick out, they breached 2 doors, first pinko's or whatever his name was and then a second following.

JJ - early in the first hour of the links that Go Devil posted, the team up on the 32nd(?) floor stated that a security guard had been shot in the leg and was standing by the elevators.

Yes. They breached both his (murderer's) hotel room front door and a locked bedroom door inside his suite.

The following timeline was displayed on a screen during Wednesday’s press conference:

10:05 p.m. — First shots fired by the suspect. This was seen on closed circuit television from concert venue.

10:12 p.m. — First two officers arrive on the 31st floor and announce the gunfire is coming from directly above them.

10:15 p.m. — The last shots are fired from the suspect per body worn cameras.

10:17 p.m. — The first two officers arrive on the 32nd floor.

10:18 p.m. — Security officer tells the LVMPD officers he was shot and gives them the exact location of the suspect’s room.

10:26-10:30 p.m. — Eight additional officers arrived on the 32nd floor and begin to move systematically down the hallway, clearing every room and looking for any injured people. They move this way because they no longer hear the gunfire of an active shooter situation.

10:55 p.m. — Eight officers arrive in the stairwell at the opposite end of the hallway nearest to the suspect’s room.

11:20 p.m. — The first breach was set off and officers entered the room. They observed the suspect down on the ground and also saw a second door that could not be accessed from their position.

11:27 p.m. — The second breach was set off allowing officers to access the second room. Officers quickly realized there was no one else in the rooms and announced over the radio that the suspect was down.

These truly suggest the security officer burst his complex bubble and triggered the coward mode similar to other active shooter losers.
Bravo Zulu to the security officer!

Looks like the bump stock’s future is in question. FWIW, IMHOO and worth less than 2 baht, no self respecting, budget conscious, marksman would be caught with one of those. Same thing w bump fire. Very low ROI if any to lead slinging skill. Some would argue it’s slippery slope etc, but I wouldn’t mind if the bump stock serves as sacrificial lamb to appease the somebody-do-something-now gun grabber crowd and give them illusion of victory/accomplishment

Here's a link to a 10:30-minute video (scroll to the bottom - Raymond page video) pretty much start to finish. At the end, there are guys checking for wounds and checking a tourniquet. https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/...s-source-says/

Pat

Looks like some are taking First Aid more seriously: 'Stop the Bleeding' campaign teaches tourniquet techniques KGUN-TV, Tucson.

Pat

A woman who works for me was at the concert that night. She and her husband left so she could change into some more comfortable shoes back at the hotel. They were planning on returning, but received texts from some associates at the event telling them not to come back due to the shooting. Their friends evidently escaped or hid under the stage.

I saw this yesterday as I was walking by a TV tuned into the news conference yesterday.

My question is what is the point inspecting the brain? Unless I am missing something, it seems like we are entering the realm of a dog and pony show.

"what is the point inspecting the brain?"

They found a tumor in Charles Witmans - it may help to address "why"

It doesn't mitigate this heinous crime, but with the perp dead, it may be the only source available..

Thanks, that is interesting.

Acoustic Forensics from Shooting
 

The link below contains a video of a gentlemen on youtube who has done some independent, acoustic forensics of the shooting. He's definitely asking the right questions IMHO.

It seems as though his math/theory is sound WRT the laws of physics.

https://youtu.be/JxmEFeKy8aI

Daggumit. Just when I ran out of aluminium foil

I want to see a control to test his postulate. Also more explanation on the signature echo and it’s impact or how he can differentiate which one is noise let alone isolate it. Finally, he should have stated that he assumed all was .223. Until there is forensic release of projectiles recovered, assumption is all he has.

I found the comments deletion disturbing though. This is some 1984 systematic censorship

Sorry about not providing the “tinfoil hat” caveat. :)

To bad he was shooting different guns and I am sure it was all the same ammo with the exact same velocity :boohoo

https://rifleshooter.com/2014/04/223...friends-rifle/

Get a roll of tinfoil.

I hear the brain went to the Dallas facility where other brains have been lost.

Post one more like this and you can discuss it over at AR15.com because you will not be on this website anymore.



This is your and everyone else's only warning.

Leave the tinfoil hats at home.

:D

Las Vegas shooting still a mystery as FBI closes investigation

Looking forward to the full, unredacted release of all of the information and evidence obtained by the FBI during the investigation. Especially the parts proving the use of bump stocks by the shooter. :D

Am I the only one seeing similarities to the OKC bombing? Especially poorly investigated second party connections to the Philippines.

Mental Illness ?
 

Was this individual suffering from Schizophrenia and did he suffer a psychotic episode that caused the violence? Psychosis is a high-risk factor for violence. Dr. Seena Fazel, an Oxford University psychiatrist, and epidemiologist published a paper in PLOS Medicine that found that people with schizophrenia are five times as likely to commit violent crimes as healthy people, and almost 20 times as likely to commit homicide