Consider what the consequences would be if thr Chinese or Russians have hacked and copied Hitlery's emails and she is elected.
1. They contact her with proof and they own her.
Or
2. She doesn't cave and we have a national crisis.:munchin

Comey left open that he'd need a congressional referral to investigate the issues of perjury RE her statements on record/under oath, and his findings, since he didn't want to dabble across Exec/Legis lines. Chaffetz indicated he'd have that referral within hours.

:munchin There's a recess! Be sure to visit our Snackbar in the lobby before we begin our Feature Presentation.

I see why people think that the republicans are "just out to get her".

Every Democrat on the comittee:
"Welcome Mr Comey and thank you for your exemplary service to this country. Your department is, and always has been held in the utmost regard. We aplogize that you have been drug here in front of us today simply to satisfy some partisan need to discredit your findings and to further waste the taxpayers money. The same people who just two weeks ago were praising you for your work (Republicans), are now castigating you for your conclusion. Blah blah white people are trying to kill black people and trump is behind it all blah blah. Thank you very much for your time".

:confused:

By God it's good to see my Congressman, Represenative Mark Meadows separate the out and out BULL SHIT from this subversive cartel's story line. 1:18 aprox. Clarifies perjury has taken place........and that doesn't seem to even be on the FBI's or the DOJ's radar. No surprise there but the clearer these travesties can be communicated come Nov. the better chance voters with Americas future at heart will have. I am already seeing liberals question what they hell is going on here, as this is blatant collusion.

Lying to federal agents......anyone else would have been arrested and placed in jail.


Hillary Clinton is above the Law!




18 U.S. Code § 1001 - Statements or entries generally

(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—

(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;

(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or

(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;

shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both. If the matter relates to an offense under chapter 109A, 109B, 110, or 117, or section 1591, then the term of imprisonment imposed under this section shall be not more than 8 years.




Comey testifies Clinton email claims ‘not true’ at heated Hill hearing

Published July 07, 2016


FBI Director James Comey testified Thursday that Hillary Clinton’s claims -- some made under oath -- about her use of a private email server were “not true,” fueling Republican questions about whether in doing so she committed a felony.

In a wide-ranging appearance before the House oversight committee, Comey also said Clinton’s email practices put America’s secrets at risk and her actions constituted the “definition of carelessness.”

At the same time, Comey staunchly defended the bureau’s decision not to pursue charges. He also said, “We have no basis to conclude that [Clinton] lied to the FBI.”

Yet he acknowledged that lying under oath is a felony, as some Republicans point to statements she made last October before the House Benghazi committee -- and plan to request an investigation. At that hearing, Clinton had claimed that nothing she sent or received was marked classified.

Comey was asked about such claims, which she also made publicly, in a pointed exchange with Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C.

“That’s not true. … There was classified material emailed,” Comey said.

On her claim that she used one device, Comey also said, “She used multiple devices.”

And on her claim that she turned over all work-related emails, he said, “No, we found work-related emails, thousands that were not returned.”


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...l-hearing.html
· FoxNews.com

I think we pretty much heard the same statement (change the names) when HRC was grilled at the Benghazi hearings from all of the dems. It's in there playbook.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...6ac_video.html


Mens rea: the intention or knowledge of wrongdoing that constitutes part of a crime, as opposed to the action or conduct of the accused.


What a circus. :confused:

Fine I will say it TS: Hillary Clinton is above the Law!

Some here may likely know this, listening to the hearing today I just learned that Hillary Klinton was one of the Original Classification Authorities. How is it even possible that she can play "I didn't know" with this?

We had a big discussion about this on another board. She's the OCA for information originating with DoS. Information that came from other agencies or that is up-classified by other agencies would not necessarily be known to be classified by SoS unless it was carrying the appropriate markings. I hate it, but it's correct.

As an OCA, she can also wave her hand and downgrade the classification of various information that originated within her department with nothing more than a memo. My contention is that had she been charged she would have been able to produce memos for all of the DoS originated emails. (backdated, of course).

On a side note... isn't the person or persons who removed SAP info from the SCIF guilty as hell? That's not mishandling, it's deliberate espionage.

That's all a bit of hogwash!

Sure, she and those appointed by her (Chief of Staff and a handful of others) could write and generate classified documents and working papers until such time as making them 'originally' classified but to purposely omit national standards in markings and subsequently protecting them afterwards is tantamount to violating a dozen or more federal laws. (The "I didn't know excuse," has a bursting radius of everyone is infected until proven otherwise.)

Those already marked by other agencies and departments would be marked with appropriate markings and declassification dates. Depending on the material, sources, and methods of collection or origination most all would have all been declassify on some year 25 from then and upto 75 years to never!

If she or someone in her staff gained access to SAP that were generated before January 1, 1982 they wouldn't declass until December 31, 2021 (unless extended to forever) and those documents after January 1, 1982, have 40 years before being looked at for declassification. She wouldn't be able to simply say, "oh that's not important."

The FBI failed to round up everyone and hold accountable for violating E.O. 13526, DoD Directive 5205.07 and probably the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 if what we think she may have sold or compromised.

She and many others broke the law, and walked. Intent is not needed!

Hillary Clinton is above the law
 

I removed SAP info all the time, briefed the commander and returned the info to the proper place. Had I sent or received SAP information to my house or anyone else's house I'd been Chelsea Manning's bitch for life.

SAP info was so sensitive if it was on a hard drive that hard drive was removed from the computer and locked up. We did that every day.

Unless you're a Clinton, Hillary Clinton is above the law, as are all the clintons.

Alright.....

There was no basis to determine whether Clinton was lying because she has never testified under oath....and there is no transcript! This is the Keystone Cops, this is the kind of stunt that should get you a trip to Leavenworth for the remainder of your life.

YCMTSU!


TPTB must have some deep dark secrets on Comey and/or he got a hell of a Golden Parachute!

The problem is DOS never originates TS material and damn sure not SCI. INR summarizes other Intel pieces from other sources but DoS originated info is pretty easy to ID. But then again, Director Comey said it was very possible that she wasn't "sophisticated" enough (e.g. Intelligent) to understand that (C) indicated Confidential classification. Perfect person to be the ultimate decision maker for the NCA.

That cuts to the heart of the matter, it's astounding how this proven incompetent would even be considered for a role in government at any level, the details are merely the result of that failure, she was removed as SOS, she lost a run for POTUS against the first term senator and somehow that makes her eligible to run for POTUS :confused:

Since when are competence and sophistication prerequisites for a government job?

A very poignant point, we should definitely think about that. Once again you have kept me from drifting off to my idealistic world..... which does not exist, right on!

OK, here's the one I was looking for. It's in EO 13526

I didn't say it was right to do that, I just said she had the authority as the OCA while she was SoS. The expiration dates actually don't matter for an OCA's decision to declassify, they simply have to meet the "determined that it no longer meets the requirements" standard. The OCA is the one that makes that determination. Again, this is only for things that the DoS owns, whether via origination or via transfer. I was suggesting that she could break a couple more laws and probably get away with it since she most likely still has an electronic copy of DoS letterhead with her signature block. Presto change-o she generates a few backdated memos and has a friend(co-conspirator) drop the memos somewhere at DoS where they can be "discovered" and any of the info she had the authority to classify is no longer a crime. That still doesn't account for the info that originated with other agencies.

I know where you're coming from. I had some of those IA/IASO certifications as well (within the last 5 years) and had to learn all about it. I was simply positing an unlikely scenario that someone as crooked as her and as well connected could attempt and possibly succeed with.

Interesting that all FBI's 302's they want can be made available to the Committee - except Hillary's which Dir Comey said is classified TS/SCI. YGBSM, what was the program's code word that sucks up 3.5 hours? "WACISS?" "DYNASTY?" "WHATDOESITMATTER?" "VASTRIGHTWINGCONSPIRACY?"
:rolleyes:

Here are some names of people in DoS who probably will face loss of job, lost wages, or jail time in a federal prison. Or should!

We (and the FBI) wouldn't be having this discussion over material "deemed" unclassified because it's no longer relevant.

We are not talking about travel itineraries and locations for lunch with foreign diplomats and host country heads of state.

This bitch traded national secrets and war plans with foreign heads of state through her private server for political gain or financial advantage.

Any one of us would be thrown under the bus and backed up over for far less!

I'd really like to know 'WHY' the Director of the FBI is tap dancing around like a puppet without strings attached. And why Bill Clinton had to share his 'personal' grandchildren stories with the AG just prior to this announcement of, let's rewrite the federal code for enforcement of existing laws?

Putin controls the next election: If he wants Trump in, he releases (or leaks) information hacked from Hildabeast's servers. If he wants Hildabeast in (likely, for blackmail reasons), he does not.

But, he's not the only world player in this game, just the biggest. Putin could be trumped by smaller players (no pun intended). This is very bad.

Pat

She has authority as an OCA......over her own agency. She doesn't have that same authority over other agency information.

Birds of a feather...
 

To borrow from Bill Ayers...

Hillary Rodham Clinton..."Guilty as sin, free as a bird."

Damn the socialist/communist/progressives.

Tin foil hat time (sorry, I can't help it)...

Is it possible that if she were to be prosecuted, that every individual who also signed that agreement, and whom knowingly communicated with her via unsecured channels could/should also be prosecuted?

Three people that are very happy about current events:
 

hillary clinton

huma abedin

cheryl mills



Hillary Clinton is above the Law!

Lol, this weekend they'll be bangin' each other like a screen door in a hurricane...

Thanks, I needed that this morning. (Damn near chocked on Copenhagen LOL)

Doubtful; if still employed they would probably be sentenced to 816 Power Point slides. If agencies could be relied upon to effect their own remedies they wouldn't need repetitive hearings to find out if anyone at the VA's been fired.
:rolleyes:

I can tell you I was not astonished to find the same lazy-faerie culture at State that I found in 79-80 when at the Puzzle Palace trying to keep up secured point-to-point circuits with them (they had some people in Iran they sounded like they might want back). It's in their DNA; the whole crew down at Brandy are much too genteel ladies & gentlemen to be bothered by mere rules - "pish-tosh." Their security awareness sucked then; it still sucks. And they won't recognize a threat even after it walks up & throat punches them. No wonder the Empress-Pretender thrived.

No doubt about that. However I believe it will be short lived. Trump will not let up on his "crooked Hillary" campaign which is what separates him from the rest of the crowd. I like his candor.

Corrine Brown D-FL you are served!
 

In my best Happy Gilmore voice - "someone didn't get the memo!"

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

Federal charges unsealed against Fla. congresswoman

http://usat.ly/29o6RvH

It wasn't the color of your skin but the content of your character.

Silly Democrat. I hear she is still running for re-election. Unbelievable!

He he he. They are only prosecuting her because she is black. If her last name was klinton she would be immune.

David Bolgiano had some articulate words on his "Hunting Saracens" blog regarding this; among others...
We'll see.

Sadly...

Yup, agree it's over, but it was a great run.

Time to prepare and plan.

Just what kind of plans are you insinuating?

I personally that we should have a nice mixer to promote "awareness" and "tolerance" in terms of what comes next.

This walking cunt wearing a $12,500 pants suit is not suited to steal the rest of our oxygen, let alone lecture the rest of us about how we need to live our lives.

What am I insinuating? I'm not insinuating, I am pointing a finger and telling people to start preparing and planning. I am saying tyranny has taken hold in the United States. I am saying that the administration and some federal agencies are complicit in a criminal cover-up of a corrupt political party and individual. I am saying that the DOJ and FBI are complicit in a criminal act perpetrated upon the people of the United States.

I am saying that because of this criminal act the people of the United States are rendered powerless by the criminal conspiracy of the administration, the DOJ and the FBI. The people of the United States are also hamstrung by the inaction of the spineless RINO republicans currently in office. And even when one of them makes a stand they will not all stand together to stop the criminal socialist conspiracy.

Never before has the American people had their faces so blatantly rubbed in corrupt socialist shit and forced to tolerate it. This can only occur when a corrupt administration and other corrupt federal agencies work together.
It's time for the people of the United States to make a stand for their own freedom and to put an end to the government corruption.

I only see two futures for America, an oppressive socialist/communist future or a free future. There is no third future. The decision will be made in Nov on which path the United States follows.

Do we want to control the government or do we want a (corrupt) socialist government that controls us.

When the leadership of the United States is above the law of the land, when government officials can willfully commit a criminal act so grievous that any other American would go to prison and they walk scot-free then it's over and the end is near.

The gender confused leaderless military will not be of any assistance. We are on our own.

We either take it back or bow our heads and get in line with the rest of the sheeple.

I agree! Prepping for 7 1/2 years now. :munchin

I agree with you 100%.

Sometimes the sarcasm doesn't translate over script.

With all that being said, I will not be voting for Donald Trump. I will be voting AGAINST Hillary Clinton. Being that the election isn't tomorrow I refuse to capitulate and get on the train. I feel that being critical of his actions will assist in moving him right versus left. He has a golden opportunity to capitalize on the words of Comey during his press release and the congressional testimony. He should be conspiring with those who are more capable than him in terms of exposing her flaws, poor decision making ability, and her trustworthiness.

Instead, he basically called her a poopy head and moved on.

While I may hold my nose and vote for him...........I will not stop being critical of him.

I will give him credit for his handling of the Dallas police shooting, in which he handled quite well. However...........that doesn't change the fact that the shooting has taken the air out of the sails of the email issue. Every second that we sit idly, the public becomes more susceptible to alinsky style indoctrination from the administration on issues like gun control and racism.

As predicted by the Committee that heard Comey
 

as well as most thinking people watching the circus...

Not long to get this one in the news...