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MR2 04-30-2015 10:24

Blasted this out to some sympathetic radio hosts and Tea Party hosts.

Loadsmasher 04-30-2015 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by SF-TX (Post 581699)
Wrong. The Texas State Guard is part of the Texas Military and is commanded by the Governor and his appointed Adjutant General.

While they are indeed under the umbrella of "Texas Military Forces" I don't agree that it gives them as an organization the title of a military force. There is an entire department of civilians (TMD) that also report to the AG. Please don't misunderstand me, there are some absolutely amazing dedicated individuals that make up the TSG but at the end of the day they are not trained and equipped to bring lethal force to enemies of the State.

SF-TX 04-30-2015 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loadsmasher (Post 581730)
While they are indeed under the umbrella of "Texas Military Forces" I don't agree that it gives them as an organization the title of a military force.

Your opinion is irrelevant. Before you post your uninformed opinion here again, what does Title 32 of the US Code and Chapter 437 of the Texas Government Code say about whether or not the State Guard is a military force?

Pericles 04-30-2015 15:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by SF-TX (Post 581732)
Your opinion is irrelevant. Before you post your uninformed opinion here again, what does Title 32 of the US Code and Chapter 437 of the Texas Government Code say about whether or not the State Guard is a military force?

The TXSG is part of the state military forces, but being unarmed tends to put limits on their military effectiveness - they currently operate CA and Med units.

The real point, to the extent that there is one, is that in the in the eyes of a substantial percentage of Texans, the federal government is losing legitimacy. That loss of legitimacy is now being reflected into the US Army itself as a result. This portends trouble.

Bleed Green 04-30-2015 18:15

Thanks for the great post TR. I really enjoyed reading Taylor's take on the whole thing and the only thing he left out IMHO was the fact that Mr. Jones is all about shilling his overpriced and utterly worthless products while pandering.

Thanks to you as well SF-TX as you taught me something about the state of my birth that I didn't know.

Richard 05-01-2015 06:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pericles (Post 581738)
The TXSG is part of the state military forces, but being unarmed tends to put limits on their military effectiveness - they currently operate CA and Med units.

The TSG mission is primarily to support disaster relief and HS, and to augment the TXNG as required. Although most of their forces are CSS type units, they do have an MP component who is armed and has a lot of vets and active LEOs in it. I knew guys in that unit and was being recruited for it when I lived in Texas, but wasn't interested - the politics in the TSG are even more ingrained and overtly dominant than in the TXNG, and too much like the Sons of the Republic (for which I am eligible for membership but not interested) for me.

Having the TSG 'play' (a very limited role I'd wager) in Jade Helm is IMO a smart political move for Greg Abbott and a practical way to 'muzzle' the return to the Republic of Texas 'prepper' crowd there.

Whatever you may think of them, the TSG does have a mission and, although not the TXNG, are not the 'Keystone Cops', either.

Richard

Team Sergeant 05-01-2015 07:14

Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones pandering to the Low IQ Crowd
 
Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones pandering to the Low IQ Crowd

And I get it now, the zombies in the "Walking Dead" are a metaphor and are actually the Low IQ individuals that Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones pander to..... well done gents Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be proud.

And you guys thought my human "de-evolution" theory was silly......

PSM 05-01-2015 09:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 581764)
The TSG mission is primarily to support disaster relief and HS, and to augment the TXNG as required.

Richard

California has a similar organization called the California State Military Reserve.

Pat

DIYPatriot 05-01-2015 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSM (Post 581791)
California has a similar organization called the California State Military Reserve.

Pat

So does my home state, Tennessee, and they're led by a former 5th Group ODA commander.

Tennessee State Guard

ETA: I just realized who "leads" them. I didn't know he got his 24th star :D

Team Sergeant 05-01-2015 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIYPatriot (Post 581793)
So does my home state, Tennessee, and they're led by a former 5th Group ODA commander.

Tennessee State Guard

Oh yeah, well I'm a 24 Star General in my State's airsoft unit. :munchin

Pericles 05-01-2015 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 581764)
The TSG mission is primarily to support disaster relief and HS, and to augment the TXNG as required. Although most of their forces are CSS type units, they do have an MP component who is armed and has a lot of vets and active LEOs in it. I knew guys in that unit and was being recruited for it when I lived in Texas, but wasn't interested - the politics in the TSG are even more ingrained and overtly dominant than in the TXNG, and too much like the Sons of the Republic (for which I am eligible for membership but not interested) for me.

Having the TSG 'play' (a very limited role I'd wager) in Jade Helm is IMO a smart political move for Greg Abbott and a practical way to 'muzzle' the return to the Republic of Texas 'prepper' crowd there.

Whatever you may think of them, the TSG does have a mission and, although not the TXNG, are not the 'Keystone Cops', either.

Richard

The MP unit is no more http://www.gotxsg.com/units.php?send_to_url=/join.php

Richard 05-01-2015 12:55

Quote:

The MP unit is no more
Looks as if they've changed somewhat in the last decade or so.

http://www.gotxsg.com/careers.php

And so it goes...

Richard

MtnGoat 05-01-2015 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 581765)
Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones pandering to the Low IQ Crowd

And I get it now, the zombies in the "Walking Dead" are a metaphor and are actually the Low IQ individuals that Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones pander to..... well done gents Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be proud.

And you guys thought my human "de-evolution" theory was silly......

Tm SGT you got that right. But these clowns have on awesome pull with people. Well Better said, with there nuts.

Bleed Green 05-01-2015 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by MtnGoat (Post 581817)
Tm SGT you got that right. But these clowns have on awesome pull with people. Well Better said, with there nuts.

When you are willing to pay a raving lunatic $19.99 for a ounce bottle of iodine just because he says it will cure your ills, you may be mentally challenged or a cult member. I am not sure how you determine which one is on the money, but what do I know as they all think we are the deluded ones. :D

The Reaper 05-01-2015 19:54

I will lay a $1,000 bet that this will prove to be a normal (if somewhat larger than usual) UW exercise and there will be no martial law, FEMA camps, UN forces, biological warfare, round-ups of non-participants, or invasions.

TR

PSM 05-01-2015 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 581860)
I will lay a $1,000 bet that this will prove to be a normal (if somewhat larger than usual) UW exercise and there will be no martial law, FEMA camps, UN forces, biological warfare, round-ups of non-participants, or invasions.

TR

You won't make any money on this site. Make that offer to Alex Jones. I bet that he won't take it either. ;)

Pat

Max_Tab 05-01-2015 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 581860)
I will lay a $1,000 bet that this will prove to be a normal (if somewhat larger than usual) UW exercise and there will be no martial law, FEMA camps, UN forces, biological warfare, round-ups of non-participants, or invasions.

TR

Well said

MtnGoat 05-02-2015 08:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleed Green (Post 581849)
When you are willing to pay a raving lunatic $19.99 for a ounce bottle of iodine just because he says it will cure your ills, you may be mentally challenged or a cult member. I am not sure how you determine which one is on the money, but what do I know as they all think we are the deluded ones. :D

If you support JH15, then you are a deluded one for sure.

MtnGoat 05-02-2015 11:50

[This by far had me ROTFLMAO.. This is how well a IO Campaign works.. haha

This is what many believe of Jade Helm 15. Can't make this up.

Quote:

OK, well here is the AARP commercial. Background message mentions martial law and there is a lot of jade green color in here and also a helm at about 43 seconds! No kidding... very creepy!
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...al+martial+law

Bleed Green 05-02-2015 12:16

The subliminal messaging was completely lost on me. Canceling my AARP membership just because they are in line with those evil govt. people that faked the lunar landings, Elvis' death, 9/11 etc.....:rolleyes:

PSM 05-02-2015 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by MtnGoat (Post 581903)
[This by far had me ROTFLMAO.. This is how well a IO Campaign works.. haha

This is what many believe of Jade Helm 15. Can't make this up.


https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...al+martial+law

That background audio was probably added later by Alex Jones' "fairies".

Pat

Team Sergeant 05-02-2015 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSM (Post 581909)
That background audio was probably added later by Alex Jones' elfs.

Pat

I'm guessing "fairies" would be a better term......

PSM 05-02-2015 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 581912)
I'm guessing "fairies" would be a better term......

Fixed it! ;)

Pat

MtnGoat 05-03-2015 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 581912)
I'm guessing "fairies" would be a better term......

You got that right.

Richard 05-04-2015 07:44

From the Dallas Morning News. :D

Richard


Abbott Should Counter, Not Cater To, Texans' Crazy Jade Helm Fears
DMN, 3 May 2015

Fellow Texans, rest easy. Nobody is declaring martial law on our state.

This is a case of stating the obvious, but some people out there need reminding: Federal soldiers aren’t going to kick the door down and take your precious firearms.

Airborne sturmtruppen aren’t going to parachute onto the roof. No one is going to dig up the yard in search of the gold coins you’ve got buried out there in a Miracle Whip jar.

Friends, as much scintillating fun as it is to swap crazy talk around the ol’ Internet campfire, enough is enough. If you’re just pretending to believe that military training exercises planned for this summer are a smokescreen for a totalitarian federal takeover, you need to knock it off. And if you really do believe this — no offense — you are out of your gourd.

These are excitable times, though. Some truly bizarre speculation has boiled up around a planned U.S. special forces drill, a large-scale exercise called Jade Helm 15. The operation, involving 1,200 military personnel across seven Southwestern states, is scheduled to run from July 15 through mid-September.

This is what U.S. soldiers have done since they conducted musket drills at Valley Forge. They train, they exercise, they rehearse combat scenarios. This summer’s series of exercises is intended to replicate the varied types of terrain troops may encounter in overseas combat.

Jade Helm is no secret. A U.S. Army colonel turned out for a public meeting Monday called by commissioners in Bastrop County to brief residents on what they may expect during the drills.

In an astonishing display of rudeness and disrespect, a vocal crowd of the local villagers turned out to insult and heckle the guy. They expressed their darkest fears about martial law and federal takeover. Some in the audience cheered when one speaker bluntly accused the long-suffering colonel of lying.

And that’s mild stuff compared with some of the lunacy being swapped online: ISIS guerillas will be brought in to enforce Shariah law. They’ll be shuttled around through a secret network of tunnels linking (you think I’m making this up, don’t you?) abandoned Wal-Mart stores.

“All we want to do is make sure our guys are trained for combat overseas,” said Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria, with more patience and civility than much of his audience was due. “We just want to hone our skills.”

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s response to this nut-studded fruitcake of fear was unfortunate. On Wednesday, he directed the Texas National Guard to monitor the drills to reassure Texans that “their safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed.”

Never mind that American troops have been protecting those very rights for more than two centuries, and to suggest that they’re part of a plot to overturn them is a profound insult to our military personnel.

Well, I suppose Abbott’s intention was to soothe these bizarre fears, to bring calm to these turgid conspiracy-crank waters.

Besides, it’s difficult to see exactly what the state guard is supposed to do here. A volunteer state force that is generally called on to respond to disasters and weather emergencies, they’re being told to “ensure that adequate measures are in place to protect Texans” during the U.S. military maneuvers.

And if there really were a sinister plan afoot, I don’t know that I’d lay any bets on a corps of well-fed weekend warriors standing up to the most skilled combat troops on the planet.


Still, it would be nice if Abbott had chosen a different response to these protests, such as: “You need to quit behaving like a bunch of ninnies.”

He could have said, “Y’all need to find something more constructive to do with your time than slobber like Pavlov’s dog every time some talk-show blowhard tells you the black helicopters are coming.” He could have said, “Knock it off, because you are embarrassing your state.”


Abbott did at least end his directive to the state guard with a bet-hedging sop expressing his “utmost respect for the deep patriotism of the brave military men and women who put their lives on the line to fight for and defend our freedom.”

Let’s join in hoping that the governor’s response was a strategic error, that it wasn’t meant to lend credence to delusional persecution fantasies.

Next time, he needs to lead his remarks by expressing respect where it’s due. And he needs to call crazy what it is.


http://www.dallasnews.com/news/colum...helm-fears.ece

Beef 05-04-2015 08:35

Can you imagine the 1940 Louisiana Manuvers being held today?

BoomerUSMC 05-04-2015 09:11

There are plenty of real threats from both inside and out for a "concerned citizen" to be focused on - JH15 is certainly not one of them.

The petri dish of paranoia in this country, in many respects, is valid however. Pre-911, should you have conjectured on the usurpation of the Constitution and the assault on the BOR as currently seen, the tin-foil related remarks would have been deafening.

These days, although it may be tin-foilish, ANYTHING seems to be on the table on a scale of likely to remotely feasible. How paranoid is it to think POTUS may declare martial law and cancel the 2016 elections? Crazy right? But it is not beyond the realm of possibility considering the players.

As for JH15, I hope the training proves to be as valuable as I think it will be. Should this country slide further into the abyss as the current trajectory suggests, we will need the lessons learned in these exercises, both citizens and .mil.

Pericles 05-04-2015 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 581860)
I will lay a $1,000 bet that this will prove to be a normal (if somewhat larger than usual) UW exercise and there will be no martial law, FEMA camps, UN forces, biological warfare, round-ups of non-participants, or invasions.

TR

I know several people who have bought into the disinfo campaign. I will be there to remind them on D-Day, D+1, D+2, etc. They need to learn a lesson about disinfo, so they can be useful in getting the country back on the correct path.

The Reaper 05-04-2015 18:44

Will Alex Jones agree to publicly apologize when he is proven wrong?

TR

Badger52 05-04-2015 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 582128)
Will Alex Jones agree to publicly apologize when he is proven wrong?

TR

My bet sir: He'll take credit for ginning up the general public outrage that made the Evil Empire blink.

Separate from that idiot, the level of distrust is pervasive and my sense is that many of those reading his stuff would've been delighted to see some men of resolve skilled in conducting UW drop-in to their state before 6 years of the current clown had passed.

Well, da Nortland is still here. Maybe next time come on up & designate NE Illinois as hostile and one stronghold on the lake as a prime objective. Beer, brats, beer, cheese, beer...
:cool:

Team Sergeant 05-05-2015 07:45

Chuck Norris drinks the Jade Helm Kool-Aid
 
Sorry Chuck but you just lost massive street cred's..... you're now an idiot.



Chuck Norris: Don't Trust The Gov't On A Possible Military Takeover Of Texas
ByAhiza GarciaPublishedMay 4, 2015, 1:44 PM EDT


The actor who starred in the TV show "Walker, Texas Ranger" wrote on Sunday that he thinks concerns about a possible military takeover of Texas might well be justified.

Actor Chuck Norris, who has become a prominent conservative activist, published a column on the conspiracy theory website WND that told readers not to trust what the federal government has been saying about a military training exercise known as Jade Helm 15.

Some conspiracy theorists have warned that the exercise, which is set to take place later this year in Texas and six other western states, may lead to a covert takeover of some of those states. Last week, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) ordered the State Guard to monitor the operation.


"The U.S. government says, 'It’s just a training exercise.' But I’m not sure the term 'just' has any reference to reality when the government uses it," Norris wrote in his column. "Whatever Jade Helm 15 actually is, I think it is more than coincidental that the FBI director just confessed in February that the presence of ISIS can be felt in all 50 states of the U.S. and that the Pentagon is suddenly running its biggest military training exercise with every branch of the military across seven Southwestern states."

cont:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...s-jade-helm-15

Lionshare 05-05-2015 12:26

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PSM 05-05-2015 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 582172)
Sorry Chuck but you just lost massive street cred's..... you're now an idiot.

It might be worth inviting him here for an education on a subject that he clearly knows nothing about: fan@chucknorris.com

Pat

Box 05-05-2015 13:13

Chuck Norris doesn't lie.
Ever.

Let me tell you people something...
...if Cordell Walker says that we cannot trust the government with regards to this JADE HELM business, then my lips to the ears of Jesus, Mary, and Saint Joseph, the American mid-west had better prepare for some old-school fascist oppression if they know what's good for them.

Is it coincidence that Cordell Walker is from Texas and that JADE HELM is in Texas...
...NO

Is it coincidence that Jimmy Trivette grew up in Baltimore and right now there are riots in Baltimore?
...who fucking knows - it doesn't matter because Trivette is just supporting role anyway.


The point is, Chuck Norris said shit was about to get real and that only means one thing...
...SHIT IS ABOUT TO GET REAL



I recommend you folks out west get your heads out of your asses and start filling sandbags !!!

Team Sergeant 05-05-2015 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach (Post 582217)
Chuck Norris doesn't lie.
Ever.

Let me tell you people something...
...if Cordell Walker says that we cannot trust the government with regards to this JADE HELM business, then my lips to the ears of Jesus, Mary, and Saint Joseph, the American mid-west had better prepare for some old-school fascist oppression if they know what's good for them.

Is it coincidence that Cordell Walker is from Texas and that JADE HELM is in Texas...
...NO

Is it coincidence that Jimmy Trivette grew up in Baltimore and right now there are riots in Baltimore?
...who fucking knows - it doesn't matter because Trivette is just supporting role anyway.


The point is, Chuck Norris said shit was about to get real and that only means one thing...
...SHIT IS ABOUT TO GET REAL



I recommend you folks out west get your heads out of your asses and start filling sandbags !!!

Damn it Billy, I had to go and look up Cordell Walker and Jimmy Trivette .....

bastard.....




;)

Sohei 05-05-2015 15:16

Sheeple see wolves behind every corner and as the source of everything that happens that is bad.

It's in their DNA and they don't want to change it. That would require work and effort on their part...something they don't want to invest. It's easier and less tiring to have someone do their thinking for them rather than have to exhaust themselves by independently researching something on their own.

Ah...the sheeple!

Team Sergeant 05-05-2015 15:18

Jon Stewart, for once I totally agree with him
 
And he even employs "logic" to "attempt" to get across his point about the Jade Helm madness......

Jon Stewart, lunatics do not argue with logic....


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a20_1430850955

Golf1echo 05-05-2015 15:25

It's an indicator of how divided we have become. The irony is the paranoid will not see the benefits, the connections, the education or the concept of what the exercise is all about. The criticism is something akin to the preacher and the choir having a feud over a misunderstanding, in that environment fewer will go away with the message of the sermon or ( switching now from an analogy to reality ) the perspective there are still Americans standing tall in defense of the Constitution.

miclo18d 05-06-2015 05:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golf1echo (Post 582228)
It's an indicator of how divided we have become. The irony is the paranoid will not see the benefits, the connections, the education or the concept of what the exercise is all about. The criticism is something akin to the preacher and the choir having a feud over a misunderstanding, in that environment fewer will go away with the message of the sermon or ( switching now from an analogy to reality ) the perspective there are still Americans standing tall in defense of the Constitution.

I have seen these "black helicopter" watchers since Bill Clinton was in office and how the military did this at Ruby Ridge and Waco (Texas again, think about it!)Jon Steward hit the nail on the head. The only thing that changed was a prezidunt. These kooks come out of the wood work when there is a liberal prez and they are still pining when there is a repub, they just tone it down.

You used to have to buy a VCR tape to get these nuts' message but now, with the intertubes, they have an unlimited forum.


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