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Loadsmasher 03-25-2014 09:28
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Originally Posted by glebo (Post 545922)
That is a very complicated subject. My guys know I didn't condone the actions, but, as you said, who am I to say?? I don't know the personal relationship's with their wives..

All I know is, I knew it, they knew it, and it didn't reflect, as long as it did not interfere with job performance.

I guess, you have to "straddle the fence" per sey when such a subject appears...

I never documented it, or held it against them, but I did lead by example...and did not "endulge"....no matter our OPTEMPO, but to be honest, most places I've been, ahhh noooo!.. Thank goodness I wasn't a 7th GP or 1st GP guy, it would've been much harder...(no pun intended) :eek:
Unfortunately it never seems to stay under the covers and eventually bleeds over from personal time and into work time. Not to mention the effect when the music stops and the deployment ends. In the coed units I have been in the real issues dont even start until you get home, regardless of whether or not it was just a deployment fling. When you've been doing the horizontal mambo with another green suiter, lets see how trusting your SO is when you go to work.

Now, if they were out spreading pollen among the natives that changes the equation for me. Not morally but there is something to be said for not squating where you eat.

Maybe CIF really should issue spouses

glebo 03-25-2014 11:03
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Originally Posted by Loadsmasher (Post 546172)
Unfortunately it never seems to stay under the covers and eventually bleeds over from personal time and into work time. Not to mention the effect when the music stops and the deployment ends. In the coed units I have been in the real issues dont even start until you get home, regardless of whether or not it was just a deployment fling. When you've been doing the horizontal mambo with another green suiter, lets see how trusting your SO is when you go to work.

Now, if they were out spreading pollen among the natives that changes the equation for me. Not morally but there is something to be said for not squating where you eat.

Maybe CIF really should issue spouses
I could imagine a "coed" unit, thankfully, never been in one.

Max_Tab 03-25-2014 11:19
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Originally Posted by glebo (Post 546183)
I could imagine a "coed" unit, thankfully, never been in one.
My only experience was pldc and it was a nightmare. The soldier who won best soldier was a female who bragged about bEing the s3 air and put herself in every jump so she could get her master blaster sooner. She also bragged that she got pregnant to get out of orders to korea, than found out if she started smoking it would be considered ahigh risk pregnancy, and would only have to work half days.

glebo 03-26-2014 05:34
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Originally Posted by Max_Tab (Post 546186)
My only experience was pldc and it was a nightmare. The soldier who won best soldier was a female who bragged about bEing the s3 air and put herself in every jump so she could get her master blaster sooner. She also bragged that she got pregnant to get out of orders to korea, than found out if she started smoking it would be considered ahigh risk pregnancy, and would only have to work half days.
You just reminded me of an "event" that happened while I was in BNCOC at Bragg. Some of the 82d guys snuck over to the PLDC area while we were doing our FTX and they were "obliged" by a couple of willing female soldiers....


Of course, this was the mid '80's before we had any of these wonderful annual classes, so I bet that wont happen now.....right???


You can't stop it, never happen...

Loadsmasher 03-26-2014 09:44
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Originally Posted by Max_Tab (Post 546186)
My only experience was pldc and it was a nightmare. The soldier who won best soldier was a female who bragged about bEing the s3 air and put herself in every jump so she could get her master blaster sooner. She also bragged that she got pregnant to get out of orders to korea, than found out if she started smoking it would be considered ahigh risk pregnancy, and would only have to work half days.
Try a deployment with a 70/30 male female ratio. They were catching people EVERYWHERE. On top of CHUs, in abandoned buildings, in the bunkers (really akward for the couple when we got IDF), in a connex that somehow locked itself, and in vehicles in the motor pool. The guys running the cameras had a highlight reel that they set to wacky sax from the Benny Hill show.

All joking aside, it created real issues with morale and even command authority. I mean, how serious can you take a CPT whose SPC girlfriend is telling everyone he likes to be spanked and called a naughty boy. (They were both sent home, thank god).

Max_Tab 03-26-2014 10:16
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Originally Posted by Loadsmasher (Post 546265)
Try a deployment with a 70/30 male female ratio. They were catching people EVERYWHERE. On top of CHUs, in abandoned buildings, in the bunkers (really akward for the couple when we got IDF), in a connex that somehow locked itself, and in vehicles in the motor pool. The guys running the cameras had a highlight reel that they set to wacky sax from the Benny Hill show.

All joking aside, it created real issues with morale and even command authority. I mean, how serious can you take a CPT whose SPC girlfriend is telling everyone he likes to be spanked and called a naughty boy. (They were both sent home, thank god).
Well soon those problems will be at the team level.

JimP 03-26-2014 11:18
Got ya'll beat: IN the waterbuffalo at the ISB in Alexandria, LA as the player-unit was prepping to go into the box at JRTC. Middle of summer; a zillion degrees out; humidity dripping from the air and two people bumping ugly's INSIDE the water buffalo!!! (their ONLY water source)

Of course we had to ensure all the other OC'ds were aware before we alerted the player unit.

Almost as fun as the lovely young lady who dropped a duece in the shower tent at a Hood warfighter because she was too lazy to walk outside and shit in the port-a-potty.

glebo 03-26-2014 13:38
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Originally Posted by JimP (Post 546273)
Got ya'll beat: IN the waterbuffalo at the ISB in Alexandria, LA as the player-unit was prepping to go into the box at JRTC. Middle of summer; a zillion degrees out; humidity dripping from the air and two people bumping ugly's INSIDE the water buffalo!!! (their ONLY water source)

Of course we had to ensure all the other OC'ds were aware before we alerted the player unit.

Almost as fun as the lovely young lady who dropped a duece in the shower tent at a Hood warfighter because she was too lazy to walk outside and shit in the port-a-potty.
I'm surprised it wasn't on the 1SG's desk... :eek:

Loadsmasher 03-27-2014 10:23
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Originally Posted by JimP (Post 546273)
Got ya'll beat: IN the waterbuffalo at the ISB in Alexandria, LA as the player-unit was prepping to go into the box at JRTC. Middle of summer; a zillion degrees out; humidity dripping from the air and two people bumping ugly's INSIDE the water buffalo!!! (their ONLY water source)

Of course we had to ensure all the other OC'ds were aware before we alerted the player unit.

Almost as fun as the lovely young lady who dropped a duece in the shower tent at a Hood warfighter because she was too lazy to walk outside and shit in the port-a-potty.
Dumpster at Mother Rucker in September. I told the 1SG that they demonstrated some serious motivation and dedication to the task given that the dumpster wasnt empty. He was not amused.

BMT (RIP) 03-27-2014 10:28
Guys, If the tales told by the SF medics at Ft Sam in the '60's are true, everyone one will have a hard time beating these tales!

:D

BMT

MR2 03-27-2014 11:10
On top of the moose head. The Warehouse, San Antonio. Circa 1975.

BryanK 03-27-2014 11:36
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On top of the moose head. The Warehouse, San Antonio. Circa 1975.
You have to be careful with those, you never know what's been there before you......the moose too :D

BMT (RIP) 06-20-2014 13:37
Army general in sexual misconduct case demoted two ranks before retirement
 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/06/20...cmp=latestnews

:lifter

BMT

Snaquebite 06-20-2014 14:31
I think he qualifies for the "High three" system for retirement.
Based on 26 years he'll receive 65% of his average basic pay for the highest 36 months of the his career

The Reaper 06-20-2014 14:36
"Gen. Sinclair has consistently taken responsibility for his mistakes and agreed to a reduction in retirement benefits," his lawyer, Richard Scheff, said in an emailed statement. "He is a highly decorated war hero who made great sacrifices for his country, and it's right that he be permitted to retire honorably."

Excuse me, that is Lieutenant Colonel Sinclair.

TR

PRB 06-20-2014 21:39
question.....How do you 'force' a Captain to give your oral sex over a 3 year period.
Slow reaction time?
Didn't see it coming?
Wtf?

dennisw 06-20-2014 22:46
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Originally Posted by PRB (Post 554898)
question.....How do you 'force' a Captain to give your oral sex over a 3 year period.
Slow reaction time?
Didn't see it coming?
Wtf?
Good question. Seems there is more to this story, but it's another sordid mess involving our general officers.

Scimitar 06-21-2014 06:42
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Originally Posted by PRB (Post 554898)
question.....How do you 'force' a Captain to give your oral sex over a 3 year period.
Slow reaction time?
Didn't see it coming?
Wtf?

I'm thinking more like slight of hand...erm... I mean slight of...

S

ddoering 06-21-2014 06:46
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Originally Posted by Snaquebite (Post 554858)
I think he qualifies for the "High three" system for retirement.
Based on 26 years he'll receive 65% of his average basic pay for the highest 36 months of the his career
Poor guy. How will he ever live on that amount?

NurseTim 06-21-2014 08:20
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Originally Posted by ddoering (Post 554918)
Poor guy. How will he ever live on that amount?
What is the estimate of monthly income?

Snaquebite 06-21-2014 08:36
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Originally Posted by NurseTim (Post 554924)
What is the estimate of monthly income?
Not sure how long he was a one star but a modest estimate IMHO would be $4500-$5000 a month.

SF_BHT 06-21-2014 08:38
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Originally Posted by Snaquebite (Post 554927)
Not sure how long he was a one star but a modest estimate IMHO would be $4500-$5000 a month.
Still more than he deserves. If this was a civilian case he would be labled a Sex Offender and that would follow him for ever.

Wounder how his case will work in this regards. Will he have that label since he made a plea and it was the military?

Snaquebite 06-21-2014 08:49
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Originally Posted by SF_BHT (Post 554928)
Still more than he deserves. If this was a civilian case he would be labled a Sex Offender and that would follow him for ever.

Wounder how his case will work in this regards. Will he have that label since he made a plea and it was the military?
Good question...How did the final verdict read? Will he be required to register as a sex offender?

Richard 06-21-2014 09:10
I wonder if he'll put "LTC Sexy Pants (Retired)" on his business cards?

Richard

MtnGoat 06-21-2014 09:32
He should have gotten jail time. He was lucky he was wear a star at the time.

BLUF she was giving it up, yet the newly LTC didn't want to leave HH6 so mouth did what she did. This be come the normal in the coming years.

Heck look at what happen with a Bragg MAJ and his wife. She was sleeping around while down range and he snatch her ass up and she called rape and much more.

glebo 06-22-2014 04:59
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Originally Posted by Snaquebite (Post 554927)
Not sure how long he was a one star but a modest estimate IMHO would be $4500-$5000 a month.
Not after his soon to be X gets a hold of it. I'm betting she's gonna take him for all he's worth, at least I hope so...

Whether the young CPT gave it up freely or not, he shouldn't have done it in the first place...JMHO of course...

Snaquebite 06-22-2014 08:02
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Originally Posted by glebo (Post 554973)
Not after his soon to be X gets a hold of it. I'm betting she's gonna take him for all he's worth, at least I hope so...

Whether the young CPT gave it up freely or not, he shouldn't have done it in the first place...JMHO of course...
I agree, if she files in NC, she's sure to get a minimum of 50% if they've been married 10 years of more. Some lawyers and judges start adding a % (1 1/4)for each year after 10 in NC.

glebo 06-22-2014 08:15
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Originally Posted by Snaquebite (Post 554979)
I agree, if she files in NC, she's sure to get a minimum of 50% if they've been married 10 years of more. Some lawyers and judges start adding a % (1 1/4)for each year after 10 in NC.
that, and ya know she's gonna throw in a lot of "emotional hardship" stuff and the like...

Damn, glad I'm not him...:eek:

Peregrino 06-22-2014 08:53
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Originally Posted by glebo (Post 554980)
that, and ya know she's gonna throw in a lot of "emotional hardship" stuff and the like...

Damn, glad I'm not him...:eek:
He wouldn't be "him" if he had kept his dick in his pants and hadn't abused his position. Really hard (impossible) to be sympathetic.

glebo 06-22-2014 14:50
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Originally Posted by Peregrino (Post 554981)
He wouldn't be "him" if he had kept his dick in his pants and hadn't abused his position. Really hard (impossible) to be sympathetic.
Oh, I'm not sympathetic, I hope he gets taken through the grinder...

Snaquebite 06-22-2014 17:00
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Originally Posted by glebo (Post 554994)
Oh, I'm not sympathetic, I hope he gets taken through the grinder...
Me either...My ex #2 got 24%, she was the one screwing around, admitted it in court and I wasn't even retirement eligible yet.:confused:

MtnGoat 06-22-2014 19:46
Haha.. Just had to post this..

http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/06/je...ldier-of-year/


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