Some just don't want to believe.......

A post from the Admin on Wilderness Survival forums;

Rick:
Fake Military Claims Among Us
I have wondered about one of our members for some time and after receiving some anonymous information I've done a little digging. It seems that Skip Hall's claims of being former Special Forces and having served in Viet Nam are not true. He served as a clerk/typist in Korea. If this is in error Skip you have my apologies but the evidence is sure stacked against you.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...laims-Among-Us

Hey Rick, Skip Hall is a liar and a fraud. That you can take to the bank.....skippy's website is gone, Professionalsoldiers.com is still here......that in itself should give you a clue.;)
Team Sergeant

From the link, this is just too funny.

Originally Posted by Trabitha
I don't know who this man is, and have yet to talk to him...BUT I know that in my husbands situation most of what he did has yet to be declassified and isn't even listed on the DD214 that we get for benefits. He's not gotten many of his metals because of this also. I know for a fact that he's not lying about what he did in the military, as I was with him when picking up a copy of his DD214 years ago, and we were shown the screen shot of the gentleman helping us. The employee was confused to see the print out come out very basic with no mention of what he REALLY did, listing him only as a cop...while he saw it all on the computer.

Just sayin'...in many cases you CAN'T look up what people actually did because it's not released and may never BE released...
This is true. Not all things show on your DD214. Even though I know I did training with and received Both British and Honduran Jump wings( Appear the same as our Marine Jump wings, and the soldiers had to pay for the wings they presented us on the DZ in the exchange ceremony), No where does it say in my military record that this is true. I know this happened, can tell you things about both places that I would otherwise have no knowledge of, but can't prove in any shape, manner or fashion. I have more jumps than they recorded, but I never kept a jump log so can't refute that either. A school I attended and received the recognition of "Distinguished Honor Grad" also does not appear on my records, I even received a plaque from the NCO Assn. for that. However no proof (That I'm aware of) exists.

Thanks for the link TS.

Would foreign jump wings appear on a DD214?

I suspect they could, its the one last meeting you have when ETSing out of the service. The sweet gal, will ask, does this look complete? It's then you ask, "what about these?", as you hand over a pile of orders for awards by your fellow foreign comrades. My DD214 list no foreign awards, while in my right hand I hold some pretty cool 'thank you stuff' by many foreign services.

FYI - how can listing foreign awards on a DD214 help in obtaining a GI Bill education grant, access to Walmart after hours, or Disney Land any easier than a DD214 for a young E5 after serving 4 years any different than a retiring CSM with 30 years?

And if applying for a job/position that required listing Thai Wings in order to abtain employment, well then, you must be applying as Wolfgang's assistant because he likes that stuff.

Nope - but there would be a copy of the certificate authorizing their awarding from the foreign country, a translation of the certificate in English (if necessary), and a letter authorizing their wear under the appropriate regulations in your Official Military Personnel File.

Richard :munchin

Maybe things have changed, but my foreign wings are on my 214. Maybe it's where you retire if they put them on or not. I retired out of Campbell in 99..

Maybe, but I would think it would be standardized. I have 5 DD214s - Fort Ord, Fort Bragg, Bad Tolz, Fort Benning, and Fort Hood - none have my foreign wings or badges (e.g. schutzenschnur) listed.

Richard :munchin

I guess I need to go back and have them correct mine.

I'm missing my:

Astronaut Badge
Super Hero Badge
Spy Badge
GRHM (God's Right Hand Man) Badge (Main duty was to arrange the meeting between the bad guys and God)

EDIT: We need to come up with a "POSER" badge.

Foreign wings on DD 214
 

Two were included on my retirement DD -214.
v/r
phil

They should be included just as foreign medal awards are. I have all wings and foreign awards noted on DD214

I retired in '93 and just heard from a 'source' that the regs regarding the foreign badges and the DD-214 changed sometime in the '90's - guess there are disadvantages to retiring as WJC was coming into office.

Richard :munchin