LOL Mike, I agree. Either that or he taught his son/s well. ;)

There is a great idea. Just drive around a mile or so west of the Isar and stop in any place that is open and lets us in, til we find that place. :D

Hahaha, yeah, could be his sons too...:D

That´s our best bet, we just try every Gasthof until we find the right one. :cool:

BTW: here is a pic of the knive I received at the closing ceremony in Bad Tölz, along with the Beret I got from the Team and my off-duty .45ACP Delta.

http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?im...2006136qj6.jpg

Damn Mike! That knife is fantastic. What a great piece of SF/Toelz history to have.

Thanks Brad ! It ranks #2 as my favorite collectibles from my days in Tölz, right after the Beret...:D

Now... You see Mike!? I already knew that. Ya just sucked up some bandwidth from the server deal or something. Jeeeeeeeeeeez ;)

Bandwidth ? Is that any good ? :confused: I show you how I suck up beer when you come to Tölz ! :D

Guys,

Although my German is a bit rusty--obgleich mein Deutsch eine rostige Spitze ist--the gist of Mike-Munich's piece on Bad Tolz is:

Bad Tölz is an area of ultramodern, efficient economic centers offering various services, shops, and government and medical offices developed from approximately 25 hectares of the former American Flint Kaserne (army base).

The newly developed area is defined by the quadrangle of the former barracks buildings (once the home of the “Green Berests”) and the unique spiral architecture in the middle of the quadrangle.

The Flintcenter lies easily accessible to traffic on the northern outskirts of Bad Tölz and is comfortably reached by public transport or car (there are more than a hundred parking places located in the area). The train station is reached on foot in about 5 minutes.

One can find a number of investment opportunities in the vicinity, as well as the Hacker-Pschorr skating rink, Tölzer indoor swimming pool, a skate park, as well as the golf course.

...and it sure makes me miss it all...especially the Grünerbrau, Hacker-Pschorrbrau, Rosenheimerbrau, Auerbrau, and Spatenbrau beers.

Richard

My German is much rustier, but it works for me Richard.

Well, my brother is car mechanic (Kfz-Meister). He told me that beer breaks up the rust pretty well....:D

Nevertheless, very good translation on Tölz piece !

Sir, maybe a "reunion" in Tölz isn´t a bad idea after all. I think Brad starts to put away some funds, right ? ;)

That's why I drink beer. I'm just trying to keep my innards from rusting up. :D

The reunion in Toelz next fall is a great idea Mike. Good thing, I know how the folks over there like brewing fantastic beer. I don't have to worry about you sucking it all up. :rolleyes:

Brot zeit
 

I was headed to get a beer and a memory popped up. It was because of the talk about Bavarian beer.

Mike or any of you that were in Toelz, can correct me on this. Anyway. Somewhere around 10am, there was this deal called Brot Zeit (Bread time). A mid morning break. I remember through the years I was there, Seeing a case of beer being hauled up on a crane on this, that construction site. :D Damn! I had worked construction before I went in. We had the morning break, all that showed up was the 'Roach Coach'. :mad:

That´s why Bavarians drink beer for breakfast. Keeps the brain from rusting away... hahaha. Thank God I´m at least half a Bavarian (other half is Texan, which is just as bad... ).

Brad, affirmative. Some things never change. Brotzeit is still there. Not only at 10am, but also in the afternoon or a cold dinner is called a Brotzeit (bread-time).

When I was 14 I saved up money for my DL, jobbing for construction sites. One of my duties was to get cases of beer (on my bicycle !), bringing the first one to the construction site before school (7am !). Then 2 after school (1300 hours) and 2 or 3 more before "Feierabend" at 1700h sharp. I made $5 an hour back then ! :p By he way, in Bavaria they never ID you when you buy beer, since it´s considered "liquid bread" here.

Thanks Brad, I think so too. We should do that while we can...;)
I´m sure the surrounding breweries will have plenty of resupply for us...

The traditional Bavarian Brotzeit always contains a beer, or two.

No problem there Mike. Just thought of something. When I was there, Toelz had it's own brewery. The beer was called Toelzer. Well.... I can't do the umlaut thing on here. Is it still there?

Well, there is (was) Grüner Brauerei in Tölz (bought by Bitburger), they market their beer under "Tölzer Hell" and "Tölzer Weissbier".

I remember it as a morning break thing and afternoon. Mostly the morning one got me. :) You didn't see that in Northern Germany. I checked.

LOL..... great job for a 14 year old. Back then, at that age, That is a great wage. :D

Yup, In some of the family owned Gasthofs I um visited. I saw kids that were 5 or so climbing up on stuff when the parents wern't there for a minute and drinking out of the old collected beer glasses or mugs. Then They would be busted. The old stuff taken away and the dad or mom would draw them some Frisch bier. Just a couple sips. ;)

The northerners are no fun. They don´t like Americans, and Bavarians either. Different mentality, what can I say. :confused:

Hell yes ! in 1982/1983 that was alot of money. Financed my DL and my first 80cc motorcycle that way. Plus the free beer I got from the construction guys...

Yes, drinking age for beer ist 0 here. :D

Mike,

I've heard over the years that there is an "SF" stammtisch in Toelz that's alwys open to SF guys in the area or passing through. Do you know anything about this?

Sanwald,

not 100% sure, but it might be the one at Jägerwirt in Gaissach.

SF guys from Tölz and a delegaton from Böblingen get together every year on Allerheiligen (Nov. 1st) there to honor the guys buried on the cemetary there.

Mike

"Nevertheless, very good translation on Tölz piece !"

Thanks for the compliments. Although I don't get to use my German very much around here in Dallas, I do go on-line to read Stern, Der Spiegel, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, and SueddeutscheZeitung to get a central Euro view of world events.

Richard

You are welcome Sir. I was in the DFW area in May this year, seeing a friend in Ft.Worth that is a 79R with the Army. Also renewed my TX DL for another 6 years. I´ll let you know next time I´m there. Maybe you have some time for a Shiner Bock and some conversation in German about the days in Tölz. :D

Ich kann leider auch nicht oefters mein deutsch hier in Northern Colorado ueben. In Colorado Springs gibt es viel mehr Gelegenheiten deutsch zu reden mit die viele Warbrides aus Deutschland. Lese ich auch ab und zu mal Der Spiegel, Stern und andere deutsche Magazinen um die Euro/deutsch perspektiv an die Welt zu verstehen. (wenigstens versuche ich das zu begreifen!!)

Ich war nie in Bad Toelz stationiert, aber als junger Gefreiter habe ich in Bad Toelz bei PCT trainiert. Das war ein totales Suckfest!!

Ich werde gerne mit anderen auf hier auf deutsch unterhalten. Hat jemand auch lust??

well, Camp Worden wasn't exactly Five Star accomodations...

if y'all wanna type in German, that's fine with me...but i'll be hanged if i can drink and post, so i'll just read and comment auf Englisch...

yeah it was a suckfest. I'm on duty here, so no drinkin and typin for me!! Have one for me will ya??

consider it done...i'll repair forthwith and attend to the matter directly...

Hahaha, die Kriegsbräute. I like that ! :D

Ich habe oft mit dem Team beim PCT die OPFOR für die GI´s gespielt. Das waren schöne Zeiten... Ich vermisse das alles sehr.

(I played OPFOR with the Team at PCT many times for the GI´s that trained there. Those were the good old days.... I´m missing it alot).

I´ll have a beer on ya´ll tonite ! ;)

Thanks. On our second fire alarm at 0411 I could really feel dem beers you all had for me........ or was that lack of sleep???? Thanks anyways. LOL

Gotta love the graveyard shift Firebeef...:cool:

I will have some Aspirins and Tylenols for you now.

Got here late, but knew I had those extra beers last night for someone. ;)

Vielen dank boys!! It's Friday and back on shift, already startin to get crazzee....keep them beers by proxy coming!!

Prosit!

i remember it well...workmen had a lunch box with a piece of bread, some sausage and a beer or six...they had a mid-morning break with beer, lunch with a beer or two, a mid-afternoon with a beer...then went home and probably had a couple of beers...a drinking schedule like that would have killed a light-weight like me...

Certainly there would have been a stop at the Gasthaus to drink a Pilsner before heading home to polish off the homemade brew.:D

LOL..... Yep LK. That was all part of it. I just thought I'd start with morning break. :D But any construction project, that I happened to drive by that was 2 or more stories. The guys didn't bring thier beer with them. It was being hoisted up to them in a case or cases, slung from a crane. Depending how many were working and how big the project. :cool:

True CoLawman. A stop at a favorite Gasthaus was normally in the schedule. There were times, I happened to be there when they came in. ;)

Guaranteed biers
 

Guys,

The unions in the Bundesrepublik Deutschland demand the bier breaks in their worker's contracts. The standard is 1 at mid-morning, 2 at lunch, and 1 at mid-afternoon, often provided by their employers under the terms of their union contracts. I found this out as the ACSCMO for Deutschland and Luxembourg when dealing with CSG (Civilian Support Groups for our POMCUS sites) contract issues and a US 3 Star who wanted it stopped. Guess who lost that battle? :D

On a lighter note, :rolleyes: alcoholism remains a major issue for German industry with many companies having to staff at 10-25% higher because of its effects to ensure the quantity of workers necessary for daily operations. And try to fire a worker with a drinking problem.

:munchin

Richard

I haven't been back to Germany since 1999, but it seems to me, the Germans I saw on the job on construction, street repair, etc, ....seems to me the Germans were the guys with the guts, leaning on the shovels, the Turks, Greeks, Yugolslavs, etc were the guys doin most of the work. Stimmt? oder nicht?

Das stimmt ! But hey, somebody has to carry the responsibility, others have to carry the tools...:p

I did see almost the same thing back in the US, white guys with guts, mexicans doing all the work...:cool:

Richard is right about the unions demanding the breaks. Just our Police union is not very good in demanding such things. We can´t even go on strike here, have a 42 hour week and shifts, while everybody else works 35 to 38 hours and have the right to go on strike...

Gents,

I might as well use this thread instead of opening a new one.

I´ve been talking to Brad (12B4S) about this idea on PM for a while:

I know there was a reunion 2 years ago in Bad Tölz. What about one in 2007 ? Maybe in fall, around the time for Oktoberfest, so those who are interested can attend it ?

This would give us almost one year to plan this, if anybody is interested that is. I can arrange things on my side, inquire about lodging ($ to $$$$), suggest places to eat or activities and forward the intel to the parties involved.

I was thinking about one weekend where we all could get together, talk and so on, since alot of guys that served in the 10th don´t even know each other. Everybody can decide individually how long they want to stay in Germany and what to do and what to see on their trip.
I wouldn´t limit the event to 10th guys, maybe it should be open for all QP´s from this forum who´re interested ?

Maybe some of you can take the chance and see the Group up in Panzer/Böblingen while you are here.

What does everybody think ?

It would be great to get back over there. Even greater to get as many people from here to meet up. Right now it is just a money thing. Working on that though. :D

i'd love to go back, the wife would really love to go back, but time, scheduling issues, gets to be a problem...and if i can't take my dog, i ain't going...

Brad, I understand the money part. Well, there is one year time, hopefully we get that squared away. :cool:

Sir, I think you can take your dog as a carry-on luggage. Well, if the pooch isn´t a Newfoundland dog like I used to have (150 lbs.) :D

Would be great to bring some of the QP´s back to Tölz....

Yeah. We do have the better part of a year. It's definately a top goal.

Better start teaching your dog German lk. It'll help when meeting the fraulein pooches.