1)If there was an ROE,, it was not functioning.. :mad:

2)500 K open water run with no CAS???

3)posted pics seem to infer they were running CB-90's.. They have a range of 240 nmi (440 km) at 20 knots (37 km/h).

Me thinks there is skulduggery afoot??

:munchin

Maybe the riverine boats were making a delivery to Obama's new besties.
Word got out at the last minute and the cover story was that they got captured adrift...

All of those guns, you would think some of them would have worked.

I wonder what their ROE was?

TR

Funny when they do there's been an incompetent spineless moron sitting in the White House.....

Just wait until President Trump takes office, it will be just like when President Reagan took office.......:munchin

Now that they are released....

They and everyone in their chain will be signing a fresh new set of NDA's.

"Broke down..." "drifted..." my ass. From some past incidents it seems the IRGC is still making up their own RoE on the fly.

But, hey, we got ourselves "a deal!"

I am thinking that a little Aretha Franklin, Oh Happy Days is in order.

Jeez fellas, this is embarrassing. In 23 years of Bush War, we had two soldiers taken prisoner. One badly wounded, the other un-armed.

Desert Shield/Storm
 

Desert Shield/Storm had a number of US taken as POWs.

But we know now this incident was because the Navy got lost. At least that's what the head Navy Dude says.

You'd think they had more nav gear then you could fit in a rucksack. And the Iranians want to keep it?

Yes sir, something's not tracking. I went flying not long ago with a friend who had the latest toys (but still knows how to use a sectional & compass, which is all I had back when). He had a simple electronic toy that clipped to his kneeboard, basically an app for his iPad, overlayed with all the stuff he needed to avoid things like the ANG base to the east and the AAF delineation & DZ on the south of the nearby base. I knew where this stuff was by sight but he did fine in skirting all of the "don't go here" gates. Have a hard time believing the USN has anything less.

:rolleyes:

Twenty-three years? :confused: There were 8 POWs that were returned and several soldiers that were captured and executed.

Pat

As I watched this play out and then there was the timing. The come away answer was "create a media crisis to take the SOTU out of the headlines."

That's the only thing that makes any sense to me. I'd say it worked. No one remembers what the president said and what he plans to do in his last year.

Golf clap all around!

The war lasted from 1966 to 1989. There were four non-combatant mechanics abducted when they went to recover a vehicle in Angola who were treated as POWS by SWAPO and the MPLA and there were a few other soldiers, including a medic, Bruce Fiddler who was injured, captured, tortured and executed because he wouldn't reveal the whereabouts of his fellow medics to the enemy. Bruce got the Honorus Crux, our version of the MOH. Sapper van der Mescht was maintaining a borehole when he was captured and the two chaps with him executed . Wynand du Toit a Recce (Our SF) was wounded and captured during a sabotage mission. A few of his section were executed on site.
Incidentally, I was on an airborne raid that was, among other things, tasked to rescue van der Mescht but he had been transferred from the camp we attacked two weeks earlier