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koz 02-25-2012 08:07

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Originally Posted by Peregrino (Post 436507)
Concur; I'm glad it meets your requirements. MOO - It's a niche round. Solve all of the issues and you have a decent 600M round that fits in an AR platform. I understand (with the right bullet [what are you using?]) it's a pretty good pig or deer hunting round too. It just doesn't fall within my parameters at the moment. Course neither does the 6.8. But I'm paying attention to TR's ruminations about the 300 AAC, doing my own research, and talking to the gunsmith. Rumor has it the hog hunting on Stewart and Benning are supposed to be well worth the trip; certainly worth another experiment to clutter up the limited space left in my new safe.

I've used Barnes TTSX 120grs with good success. I'm considering trying the 100gr for white tail. Its a good coyote round as well.

I think the 300AAC is a good round especially for hogs, white tail, etc. I plan on getting an upper in the future.

Gene Econ 02-28-2012 19:29

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Originally Posted by koz (Post 436505)
GeneEcon has a wealth of info on the 6.5G and seems to like it. It's a capable cartridge. It's not a .260 or 6.5 CM.
To me it's a great hunting round. I have killed lots of deer (mule, white tail), Caribou and a Dall Sheep (just over 525yds). I haven't taken it elk hunting but I have no doubt it would put an elk down easily.

Koz:

I have been shooting a number of uppers chambered for the 6.5 G since it basically came on the market. Although many would disagree, I view it as a decent 600 yard cartridge given you are using an AR-15 frame.

I don't view it as a competitie cartridge in High Power only because the velocities are pretty low but it is a very accurate cartridge and for those who hunt with an AR-15, it does a good job on meedium game.

An advantaqge to the Grendel is a huge variety of 6.5mm bullets to choose from over the entire range of the shooting sports. And it uses an AR-15 frame which many like due to size and weight.

The Grendel had problems but I think most of them have been solved with the exception of a decent magazine. Only one place makes Grendel mags and if you look at the Grendel forum you see many posts about magazines not working properly.

Just understand that the Grendel case holds about 30 grains of powder and that you are restricted by a 5.56 magazine length.

Gene

EchoSixMike 04-04-2012 05:26

Not to sound preachy but as long as you're limited by the size of the M16 magazine, you're stuck with the limits of physics. This is an engineering issue, thus mathematics. The time to have made a cross the boards switch was before everybody bought buttloads of new rifles, say 2002-2004 or so. USMC was just buying M16A4, Army was still switching to M4's IIRC, SCAR wasn't even started yet, so a switch could have been total. Now with all the new hardware and decent performing 5.56ammo (Mk262, Mk291, Mk318, etc), there really isn't much demand left. Having service specific rifle ammunition went away with the straight pull 6mm Lee rifle and there's no reason to bring it back AFAIK.

At this point, switching the US DOD over to another rifle caliber would simply be a MIC welfare program. Maybe in 10-15 years when we move away from what we've currently got, but by that point maybe the Case Telescoping Ammunition (CTA) thing will be sorted out. At least the Euros are currently paying the way for most of the fielding of that technology. 40mm CTA cannon for their new APC's. Might be the only defense research weight they ever carry:p

The NRA guys shooting spaceguns who are not using 5.56 seem to like a 6mm bullet with the 6.8SPC casing for increased powder capacity but they single load for the prone stuff and so are not limited by OAL. A Grendel casing would be the same thing only slightly moreso, as it has more volume IIRC. 6mm bullets are significantly better ballistically than .224 bullets and you don't give up huge amounts of MV as with high BC 6.5mm bullets. S/F....Ken M

doctom54 12-12-2018 12:40

Looks like GEN Milley is resurrecting the 6.8 SPC

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...-lot-deadlier/

Not sure the reasoning that it will defeat body armor holds up.

Combat Diver 12-12-2018 22:20

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Originally Posted by doctom54 (Post 648225)
Looks like GEN Milley is resurrecting the 6.8 SPC

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...-lot-deadlier/

Not sure the reasoning that it will defeat body armor holds up.

Reading is fundamental, stated the CALIBER is to be 6.8mm, not necessary 6.8 SPC II. As not all .30 calibers are 7.62x51 NATO or .30 US Springfield Model of 1906. There are many cartridge designs for those calibers. Velocities stated elsewhere are too high for the 6.8 SPC design.

CD

longrange1947 12-12-2018 22:58

A number of calibers are being considered.


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