I was going to reply too, but it took me a few reads to figure out you were quoting someone else.

On the topic, I believe any legislation infringes on the right to keep and bear arms. I also believe it's been a long time since we have really enjoyed freedom and liberty here in the US. ( As a matter of fact, I believe the last time we really enjoyed freedom was when one could pick up the Sears catalog and order a Thompson for 200 bucks... now THAT is freedom.)

Was that with the 50rd drum magazine, or the 30rd stick?:lifter

60 Minutes
 

I highly recommend tonight's 60 Minutes report titled "Gun Rush."

The last few seconds are actually quite encouraging. Feinstein states she will not be looking to press the ban anytime soon, and recommends that Obama puts it off as well.

Additionally, Gallup polls are at their lowest ever (49%) when asking Americans if they are in favor of stricter gun control.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4931769.shtml

Feinstein's key words 'anytime soon' which imo equates to they are waiting for just the right moment to press it forward.

As in her own words:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3zOU...layer_embedded

Yes, she is definitely only saying that it is not a priority at the moment. Surely, she will make it one in the future. I think the more encouraging thing is the Gallup number there at the end. It could show that even when she does find the "time of [her] choosing," maybe the rest of the country won't be so prone to agree with the idea.

Just my take. YMMV.

I would agree on the polls, but as recently demonstrated by our so-called representatives votes in favor of the Stimulus, the GIVE ACT and several other bills, it would appear they do not base their votes on the polls and/or the wishes of the people.

60 Minutes did their quarterly Anti Gun piece last night. Finstien said "now is not the place and time for a new AWB. But I there will be a place and time for one in the future"

Maybe, JUST maybe, if they screw up the next 18 months badly enough, they may not have the votes to pursue their agenda after the 2010 election.

TR

And 20/20 did its best Michael Moore imitation last week. All was not lost, however; it provided me with an excellent opportunity to show my oldest how the media can and will deliberately slant their reporting to support their stand on an issue.

Jeeze! I take four lousy days leave from work and come back to find my E-mail in-box screaming for attention -- apparantly that lady really, really, really want me to participate in the Leave-Share Program. And why do "them's that can" authorize a holiday pass, wait until I've spent a day's leave on it anyway?:mad:

Pete , you asked, "if no "weapons on school grounds" is such a great law why have there been so many school shootings?" Because the ones who do the school shootings aren't like you. They aren't law-abidding folks that take the trouble to comply with the law like you. They are, however, also the ones that the full time weapon carrying LEO is waiting for.
As for the exculsion zone? Cooler, smarter heads prevailed and the 1/4 mi radius (or whatever it was) was scrapped. Because it was stupid. But, having the exclusion zone start at the School Yard Gate? That makes sense.
Pete, you are very experienced with employing weapons correctly (most here are). I'm sure when your kids are around weapons (regardless of style) the only thing safer then the weapon is your kid.
Here is my question: Why are we willing to abandon everyone's safety to protect every individual's access? And no cussin' at other QP's allowed:D

I think Benjamin Franklin summed it up for me back in 1775:

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

I would also add Samuel Adams thoughts:

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

TR

What's the response time for the "full time weapon carrying LEOs" at your local school? Unless Fortune smiles upon the school my kids go to, response can be measured in 10s of minutes, and they go to a school in the city. The elementary, middle and high school near my house are under county sheriff jurisdiction, and the sheriff himself has stated response could be as long as 45 minutes to an hour, depending on where the closest deputy happens to be at the time of the call. Lots of shooting can be accomplished in that time.

Depend on a overworked and stretched thin LE dept. for my kids' individual safety? No thanks.

dozer:

Do a little research and tell me what happened with the SRO when Columbine was hit, and what happened to the kids who were his responsibility.

TR

My question
 

You equate gun free zones with safty. It would appear that most nuts open fire in gun free zones.

My question - Why are some so willing to strip everybody of a right for the illusion of safty?

Great post TR. Our country needs a history lesson like this................:D

GB TFS :munchin