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The Reaper 01-27-2008 13:12

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Originally Posted by Razor (Post 197298)
Maybe you'd have fewer malfunctions if you stopped sticking the muzzle up your butt. :D

Hey, you follow your break in procedures, and let him stick to his.:D

My gunsmith told me that owners with Dremel tools were the greatest source of business that he had.

TR

jbour13 01-27-2008 13:25

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 197303)
Hey, you follow your break in procedures, and let him stick to his.:D

My gunsmith told me that owners with Dremel tools were the greatest source of business that he had.

TR

That is why I said that it's not for everyone. :p

I played with mine on scrap angle iron as a kid before I even thought of touching a gun. My punishment sometimes was to sharpen mower blades when I had a night out and came home too late. You'll learn early on that brush hogs have Ginormus blades and aren't fun to sharpen with a hangover. :D

gtcrispy 01-27-2008 14:03

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Originally Posted by Razor (Post 197298)
Maybe you'd have fewer malfunctions if you stopped sticking the muzzle up your butt. :D

Thanks! I'll keep that in mind :D


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Originally Posted by jbour13 (Post 197301)
What ammo were you using, just seems like a lot of powder burn outside the muzzle.

I say Winchester white box, but PMC does the same thing.

Acetone the slide and any parts that rub together to speed the lapping process and it'll break in faster. Just make sure you clean it really well after shooting before you lube it.

Para's have a finicky extractor setup and some require tuning or spring replacements to make them run good.

Was it chambering the round high (getting hung on the case lip), or just from being a bit dirty. If it keeps up, polishing compound on the feedramp and a good jewelry polishing cloth will fix most small feedramp problems. I'm a Dremel wizz, but don't recommend this for everyone. :D

I was shooting HSM reloads I bought from the local gunshow. I've fired quite a few of them in 9mm, .40 and .45acp. They fire flawlessly in my Kimber Warrior and through my HK P2000 and HK USPc 9mm.

The feedramp is already highly polished. The rounds would get caught on part of the feedramp angled slightly down. I would just pull the side back a little bit and let it go and it would chamber the round. Often it was the case when i was loading the pistol and releasing the slide though it did happen during normal firing. I prob put around 150rds through it so I'll clean it and see how it functions after I get more rounds through it.

Team Sergeant 01-27-2008 14:11

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Originally Posted by jbour13 (Post 197301)
What ammo were you using, just seems like a lot of powder burn outside the muzzle.

I say Winchester white box, but PMC does the same thing.

Acetone the slide and any parts that rub together to speed the lapping process and it'll break in faster. Just make sure you clean it really well after shooting before you lube it.

Para's have a finicky extractor setup and some require tuning or spring replacements to make them run good.

Was it chambering the round high (getting hung on the case lip), or just from being a bit dirty. If it keeps up, polishing compound on the feedramp and a good jewelry polishing cloth will fix most small feedramp problems. I'm a Dremel wizz, but don't recommend this for everyone. :D

LOL Ha Ha Ha, "1911's" ho ho ha ha "lapping process" ha ha ho ho "spring replacements" lol, ha ha ha "he said finicky",LMAO Ha Ha Ha, "feed ramp problem"....LOLOLOLOL make them stop!

Where's my HK USP that has never failed to fire, extract, no replacement parts, ever.....

Do yourself a favor, sell the 1911 clone and purchase a real 21st century piece.....:D

The Reaper 01-27-2008 14:44

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 197313)
LOL Ha Ha Ha, "1911's" ho ho ha ha "lapping process" ha ha ho ho "spring replacements" lol, ha ha ha "he said finicky",LMAO Ha Ha Ha, "feed ramp problem"....LOLOLOLOL make them stop!

Where's my HK USP that has never failed to fire, extract, no replacement parts, ever.....

Do yourself a favor, sell the 1911 clone and purchase a real 21st century piece.....:D

I suspect that if you could convince HK to make an SF special edition, at a reasonable price, lots of SF guys would do just that.

Looks like HK is about the only one not participating.

TR

jbour13 01-27-2008 15:01

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 197313)
LOL Ha Ha Ha, "1911's" ho ho ha ha "lapping process" ha ha ho ho "spring replacements" lol, ha ha ha "he said finicky",LMAO Ha Ha Ha, "feed ramp problem"....LOLOLOLOL make them stop!

Where's my HK USP that has never failed to fire, extract, no replacement parts, ever.....

Do yourself a favor, sell the 1911 clone and purchase a real 21st century piece.....:D

You're a big ole' meany.......hehe

Your statement hasn't gone unnoticed I'm sure. I have 5 HK's, 4 Sigs, and 2 1911's. There is a reason for the high number of 21st century pieces, cause they work. So do the 1911's and rather well.

You know now someone will now come in and make a Grock comment :p

Now leave us alone and let us spend our hard earned money on fun toys TS.......I kid, I kid. Moving out ;)

jbour13 01-27-2008 15:10

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 197319)
I suspect that if you could convince HK to make an SF special edition, at a reasonable price, that they would do just that.

Looks like HK is about the only one not participating.

TR

HK doesn't participate, they have lived a Hermit like existence for far too long to be in touch with their users, civilian or military.

Most manufacturers are offering incentives for a purchase of one of their firearms. Sig has a $50 or $100 rebate depending on models. Para Ord runs this offer pretty regularly (which is a damn fine one too), S&W has at times offered good pricing for LE/Mil. Glock has the LE/Mil Purchase program. Name a big domestic company that does not offer good deals for LE/Mil, there are few, very few.

Small companies are getting in on it. HK just does it for exclusive rights. I love their guns, but don't like their attitude towards end users. Our Bn armorer doesn't like playing around with the MP-5's anymore because he has a hard time getting parts kits. HK wouldn't even send him a manual for the MP-5 in Afghanistan to help him fix them. They just wanted it to be sent in. I can't imagine civilian customers trying to get something from them.

Team Sergeant 01-27-2008 15:17

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Originally Posted by jbour13 (Post 197320)
You're a big ole' meany.......hehe

Your statement hasn't gone unnoticed I'm sure. I have 5 HK's, 4 Sigs, and 2 1911's. There is a reason for the high number of 21st century pieces, cause they work. So do the 1911's and rather well.

You know now someone will now come in and make a Grock comment :p

Now leave us alone and let us spend our hard earned money on fun toys TS.......I kid, I kid. Moving out ;)

I also have ONE 1911 in my gun safe and as soon as the "Antiques Roadshow" comes to Phoenix its gone.:D

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Originally Posted by jbour13 (Post 197321)
HK doesn't participate, they have lived a Hermit like existence for far too long to be in touch with their users, civilian or military.

Most manufacturers are offering incentives for a purchase of one of their firearms. Sig has a $50 or $100 rebate depending on models. Para Ord runs this offer pretty regularly (which is a damn fine one too), S&W has at times offered good pricing for LE/Mil. Glock has the LE/Mil Purchase program. Name a big domestic company that does not offer good deals for LE/Mil, there are few, very few.

Small companies are getting in on it. HK just does it for exclusive rights. I love their guns, but don't like their attitude towards end users. Our Bn armorer doesn't like playing around with the MP-5's anymore because he has a hard time getting parts kits. HK wouldn't even send him a manual for the MP-5 in Afghanistan to help him fix them. They just wanted it to be sent in. I can't imagine civilian customers trying to get something from them.

I've heard this quite a lot, I'll have a chat with them (HK Reps) at the Shot Show.....:D

jbour13 01-27-2008 15:22

Wish I could be there
 
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 197323)
I also have ONE 1911 in my gun safe and as soon as the "Antiques Roadshow" comes to Phoenix its gone.:D

ROFLMAO!!!!

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I've heard this quite a lot, I'll have a chat with them (HK Reps) at the Shot Show.....:D
You going it alone, or you running with the PS.com PSD??? :p You alone is enough, PS.com members rolling deep = Parting of the Red Sea!!

At least you have the creds to lay on the table and get some attention. Hope it works out. I've been wanting some damn parts for a while.

WTFOver 01-27-2008 17:33

Am I missing something here or are all hi-cap style 1911's notorious for feed problems? Let me know if I'm wrong here.

And my HK .45 is great, but I'm a southpaw and have waited over three months for my L/S selector lever to come in.

Does anyone have the info or link for the order forms so I can pass it on to us Nasty Girls in Rhode Island?

The Sig 220's are nice, we have a few of then floating around up here. New Englanders are partial their sigs.

Out,
T.

kgoerz 01-27-2008 17:49

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I believe SIG was the first to do this. This too was only available to SF personnel. All the Pistols were numbered.
Is it legit if a company used the SF Crest like the one in the picture and made it available commercially to anyone who wanted to buy?
Reason I ask is I think S&W is doing this with their M&P .45. Don't quot me on the S&W part but I can find out for sure tomorrow.

The Reaper 01-27-2008 18:36

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Originally Posted by WTFOver (Post 197340)
Am I missing something here or are all hi-cap style 1911's notorious for feed problems? Let me know if I'm wrong here.

And my HK .45 is great, but I'm a southpaw and have waited over three months for my L/S selector lever to come in.

Does anyone have the info or link for the order forms so I can pass it on to us Nasty Girls in Rhode Island?

The Sig 220's are nice, we have a few of then floating around up here. New Englanders are partial their sigs.

Out,
T.

T:

I suspect that info would be a lot more useful to you AFTER you have earned a Tab, if you make it at all.

No point in you having to explain the SF engraved pistol every time you go to shoot if you do not make it.

You are a long way from becoming a member of the Brotherhood right now.

Have you even been selected yet?

TR

jbour13 01-27-2008 18:57

Earn It!!!
 
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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 197352)
T:

I suspect that info would be a lot more useful to you AFTER you have earned a Tab, if you make it at all.

No point in you having to explain the SF engraved pistol every time you go to shoot if you do not make it.

You are a long way from becoming a member of the Brotherhood right now.

Have you even been selected yet?

TR

I was just thinking this!

I'm a support soldier assigned to a SF Bn. Now, I fend off the remarks all the time when someone asks me where I work. I start by saying Bragg, then progressively work my way to my actual unit if I deem the person has no threat to me or the units mission. Majority of people, both civililan and military, are unaware that SF units even have support soldiers. It does get irratating when a person asks then is visibly upset with me for providing the truthful answer. I've actually been labled a poser on a few occasions for claiming to be SF because someone has introduced me by my affiliation and not my actual job.

I have for years seen this offer and don't participate in it because I do not bear the right to have something that someone works hard to uphold day in and day out. If you made one with the MI crest, I'd be game. I'm proud of my duty and would have no problems showing it on a pistol. I've spoke with both Sig and Para about this and they said send it in and they'd be happy to do it. It would take an extra 4-6 weeks since it's a one off, but they are supportive of any soldier. Besides, they both owe me for help a few years back ;). It's a good deal, but you can get what you want, you just need to know how to talk to people.

I don't claim to be one of the Brotherhood, but I do claim to be damn good at my job and fortunate to be a part of the best damn regiment in the Army. You boys rock, nuff said.

Sorry for the hijack........Soapbox returned

WTFOver 01-27-2008 20:23

[QUOTE=The Reaper;197352]T:

I suspect that info would be a lot more useful to you AFTER you have earned a Tab, if you make it at all.

No point in you having to explain the SF engraved pistol every time you go to shoot if you do not make it.

You are a long way from becoming a member of the Brotherhood right now.

Have you even been selected yet?

TR[/QUOTE

Reaper,

Noted; just trying to get info for members of my unit who are tabbed. I wouldn't pull that bush-league stuff, I know my place.

And yes to your question, I'm currently awaiting orders to Q.

abnremf 02-01-2008 16:42

I ordered my ParaOrd yesterday. They told me it should be delivered in about two months. The beauty is they won't charge my card until they ship it. What's even more beautiful is again, I won't be here to explain to my wife why I'm buying expensive shit. By the time I return she'll have forgetten about it. The never being here thing has worked for home purchases as well. She never gets mad at the moving part, it's the 400 pieces of paper she has to sign everytime and I'm always conspicuously absent :D.


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