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tom kelly 09-18-2007 09:17

Move Incident May,14,1985
 
Broadsowrd,If you are interested in the incident that occured in west Philadelphia on May 14,1985 in the 6200 block of Osage Avenue go to the Google search engine and look up Move Philadelphia there are two web sites containing stories from USA Today and The New York Times giving accounts of what transpired after a 90 minute shoot out between Phila.Police and Move members.The web sites are under Google News...http://www.mindfully.org/reform/move...4may85.htm-20k The USA Today web site is http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/......Regards,tom kelly

Pete 09-18-2007 10:03

Get a better door
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor (Post 182422)
... No-knock warrant services that are 'mistakes' concern me, as I know what I'd be doing if someone tried to breach my door in the wee hours, and lil' ol' me against a full SWAT team doesn't bode well for yours truly. Its happened in the past to others, and they're not around to receive their apology.

Get a better door. Replace all the screws, lock plates & hings with long ones that go deep into the door and through the frame into the 2X4 framing. Then use a scuff wedge at the bottom or one of those wedge sticks that go under the knob and down to the floor.

It will not stop them but they will have to take a bit more time. The time you need to read the situation and react correctly.

Criminals don't make that much effort to get through a door like that.

Razor 09-18-2007 22:05

Already in effect, Pete. Even reinforced the frame, where needed. ;)

brianksain 09-22-2007 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 182296)
Everyone makes mistakes, I remember a certain "counter-terrorist" unit boarding the wrong "ship" (anchored in the harbor) in the dead of night...... I'm sure the ship's crew wet themselves upon meeting/greeting said CT team......;)

I'd imagine for every mistake made, US LEO's make 100,000 good arrests.....;)

Team Sergeant

Of course you are right TS ... but brother ... they are hiring some idiots these days.

Just not the same kind of cop that brought me up anymore.

Where did 20 years go?

Ret10Echo 09-25-2007 13:12

A little off topic 82nd Trooper, but maybe they were distracted due to their "other" duties......what a bunch of elitist jerks....:mad:


http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=78&sid=1256072


Mukasey Security Detail Filed Complaint
September 25, 2007 - 3:05pm

WASHINGTON (AP) - Emptying the trash, carrying groceries and toting golf clubs were among duties allegedly assigned to U.S. marshals protecting two federal judges in New York over the last decade _ one of whom has been nominated to be the next U.S. attorney general.

The valet-like chores were outlined in a complaint two years ago against Michael B. Mukasey, another judge and their wives by deputy marshals assigned to the judges' security details.

82ndtrooper 09-25-2007 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ret10Echo (Post 183549)
A little off topic 82nd Trooper, but maybe they were distracted due to their "other" duties......what a bunch of elitist jerks....:mad:


http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=78&sid=1256072


Mukasey Security Detail Filed Complaint
September 25, 2007 - 3:05pm

WASHINGTON (AP) - Emptying the trash, carrying groceries and toting golf clubs were among duties allegedly assigned to U.S. marshals protecting two federal judges in New York over the last decade _ one of whom has been nominated to be the next U.S. attorney general.

The valet-like chores were outlined in a complaint two years ago against Michael B. Mukasey, another judge and their wives by deputy marshals assigned to the judges' security details.

Why does this not surprise me ? :rolleyes:

Color me stupid, but do all Federal judges have a security detail ? Let alone Federal Marshals ? Seems like a colossal waste of tax payers money to have Federal Marshals being treated like the plantation help than out chasing fugitives.

Elitist bastards is right !! :mad:

Additional note: Perhaps now that Blackwater's lisence in Iraq has been suspended they can provide security details to these Federal judges. Leave the Fed's to do their real jobs.

The Reaper 09-25-2007 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by 82ndtrooper (Post 183550)
Why does this not surprise me ? :rolleyes:

Color me stupid, but do all Federal judges have a security detail ? Let alone Federal Marshals ? Seems like a colossal waste of tax payers money to have Federal Marshals being treated like the plantation help than out chasing fugitives.

Elitist bastards is right !! :mad:

Additional note: Perhaps now that Blackwater's lisence in Iraq has been suspended they can provide security details to these Federal judges. Leave the Fed's to do their real jobs.

Judicial security is a real job, and is a core mission for the USMS.

A member of this board was a key figure with them for many years.

The judge may have misused them, but that does not denigrate their duties.

Have some respect.

TR

Shar 09-25-2007 14:21

The article referenced above is very misleading. The headline looks like they are saying for certain it was Mukasey and his wife who misused the USMS, but in reality:

"The complaint, first obtained by The Associated Press in 2005, does not specify which judge or spouse is responsible for assigning which tasks to the deputy marshals included in their grievance.

It also does not name Mukasey or the other judge, Kevin Thomas Duffy, although they were the only two jurists in the federal courthouse in New York's southern district who had long-standing U.S. marshals security details at the time the complaint was filed in March 2005."


There's an awful lot of inference here - especially when this complaint does not appear to have been verified in any way. Not that I'm calling these Marshalls liars, but there are always two sides to every story and clearly this story is being twisted and used to make the next Bush nominee for US Attorney General look bad. Darn vast left-wing conspiracy! :D

On another note, I am very glad, as a citizen, for the protection afforded these Judges. A good friend/mentor of mine is on the Federal bench and he's received more then one threatening letter. The USMS serve a real purpose.

82ndtrooper 09-25-2007 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 183556)
Judicial security is a real job, and is a core mission for the USMS.

A member of this board was a key figure with them for many years.

The judge may have misused them, but that does not denigrate their duties.

Have some respect.

TR

No disrespect intended. I just don't like seeing any federal agents treated like the lawn care boy, or garbage collector. Even though they did come to my door and it was the wrong address and wrong guy. ;)

I suppose I would have guessed Secret Service instead of USMS for these types of Judicial security duties. Obviously I did not even know that Federal judges had such details.

Again, no disrespect intended.

504PIR 09-26-2007 07:36

Just a quick note as Blackwater name has popped up here a few times. In New Orleans BW had NO arrest powers, nor was it used to confiscate firearms. Though many are LEOs who work for BW, they cannot arrest anybody while working on contract.

That was the New Orleans PD! Which was NOT the most highly respected PD in the country before the disaster.


As I frequantly make fun of BW on a regular basis, it pains me to have defend them.


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