Interesting pod cast from The War Room, Army War College a stand off view point, much of the context I was not aware of.
https://warroom.armywarcollege.edu/p...s/spanish-flu/

Frankly, I think they've done a fair to middlin' job on emphasizing the hand-washing. And I think people get it, RE provisions. (Whether they've done it or not is another matter.)

However, I see a major obstacle in people willing to acknowledge the depth & duration of what is meant by "social distancing." You can look them in the eyes & tell 'em, and you'll get a north-south all day, but they will still be in denial. "Oh, we're a small town (at the confluence of 2 interstates), and it's little Janie's last Spring concert at the HS auditorium, it'll be Ok." Or...

"Let's hold a convention and we'll only invite the "key" 50,000 people to this major metro area and I'm sure the public transport will be fine - we only do it every 4 years... c'mon, what could go wrong?"

It's time to have The Conversation with people who are closest to you & branch out from there. There will come a time when the front porch sign won't say "No Solicitors" - it'll say "Eintritt Verboten." When the schools close and the parent still has to work, it can't mean "Oh, come down to visit with (COPD) Grandma for the day."

Medical insurers get it, and they are known to reli$$h only one thing. Got notified last night that my secondary (who was primary while I worked for our green machine) waives all testing co-pays, telemed visit charges, charges for delivery of Rx's, etc. should the situation warrant. And that industry is the last one to give something away. (There's probably a chunk of that $8.3B carved out for that on the backend but you gotta be alive first to collect, right?)

Well, the Food Lion closest to us still has everything to include TP - everything except for hand sanitizer.

One long empty section where they all used to be.

[QUOTE=TOMAHAWK9521;656320]Welcome to the Pandemic days

Cue Ronald Reagan... Today on
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Heh, shared a couple words with a gent the other day on that TP issue. 1st case in Madison, since cleared, caused 3-cart purchases of the stuff initially. Supply chain no problem; pulp industry & actual makers of the stuff just east of us and it does come direct. The issue will not be whether it's on the shelves; the issue will be if we're at a stage where one wants to venture out to get it. Sporty times ahead. Cards, board games, Scrabble®, heads-up "Hold 'Em" are staples.
:munchin

Thinking about remedies to counter COVID-19 once an individual has become seriously infected, based on information in the article below, why not create a Cather type of instrument that could be inserted via a breathing tube into the lungs and flash a UVC pulse to counter the virus.

https://www.genengnews.com/topics/tr...a-and-viruses/

Virus Killer:
 

Sunlight exposure also works a killer of microbes.

Can't thread into the small tubules. Would only reach a tiny fraction of the surface area. Probably also blocked by the fluid that is exuded by the infected tissue.

Is the ratio of death:recovered a good measure of morbidity? Can you plot it over time and see the trend, if not the actual percentage? The weakest die first, so I would think the trend would be accurate if not precise.

Five hours ago Russian bombers were intercepted off of Alaska by USAF and CAF. One can only assume maximum pressure is being exerted by Russia in this crisis. Why the increase in pressure, what is the advantage Russia is seeking to negoatate, whats is Russia's short term goal in using the virus to gather advantage or relief?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...opment-russia/

Crash the American shale oil industry

Noted in a prior post, the tension is palpable. It would be interesting if a drone controlled F/18 ram/crash into one of their bombers in a airmanship error. What Russia would do, calling the buff.

Russian bombers near the Alaska border is not new. I was there a year ago working in the Arctic and it happened then. US jets scrambled from Alaska for intercept.

I think the panic of this virus has gone to the extreme. Nobody panics about the 30,000 plus deaths every year, in the US, caused by automobiles. This thing has been going for what, 3 months or so, and has killed worldwide a yearly violence toll of Chicago? And we intentionally expose ourselves to automobiles!

https://visionlaunch.com/many-people...utrition-year/

No one seems to panic about this figure every year either.

How about we quit panicking and killing our economy. Take measures to protect against the spread of course, but quit making everyone believe that they are going to die if they get this.

And buy kleenex not TP. Went to Albertsons last night and picked up some groceries. TP was on my list. When I got to the TP isle there were two ladies standing in front of mostly empty shelves. The one was telling the other that her daughter could not get any in Denver and was coming up and for her to pack some suitcases full. She said she had been to most stores in town (100K people) and there was none anywhere. Right next to the TP section was the kleenex section. It was about 3/4 full. I ended up buying a six pack of off brand. Maybe people are thinking of those Venezuela stories:D

+1 This is just Bears doing what Bears have been doing for a very long time. And at this particular time, it's just likely a case of "in the midst of this current thing, can the Main Adversary still do "xyz."
Nothingburger imo.

Concur!