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Stobey 03-25-2014 02:16

I beg pardon if I intrude, but the original idea of a militia was that the entire body of people be well-armed and well-trained. (This because the very idea of standing armies was abhorrent to our founding fathers.) Switzerland understood this message very well for a long time.

Some very good quotes from said founding fathers here:
http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/rkba/ff_militia.htm


David Zuniga has some very interesting points here:
http://www.americaagainnow.com/support_our_troops

Stiletto11 03-26-2014 10:21

The states are supposed to raise the militia (we the people) and then send them to to fight. For example in the civil war you had 15th Vermont Regiment etc. The founders viewed a standing army as a threat. The militia is all able-bodied men 18-45 ( correct me if I'm wrong on the ages).

badshot 03-26-2014 16:45

Hornady
 
Just got an Email from Hornady about Feinstein’s new moronic demands:

Quote:

Her lengthy list of prohibitive demands is outlined below.

"Prohibit importation of all semi-automatic rifles that can accept, or be readily converted to accept, a large capacity ammunition magazine of more than 10 rounds, regardless of the military pedigree of the firearm or the configuration of the firearm's magazine well;
Prohibit semi-automatic rifles with fixed magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds;
Prohibit the importation of the frame or receiver of any prohibited rifle, regardless of whether it is incorporated into a fully manufactured firearm.
Prohibit the practice of importing assault rifles in parts and then constructing the rifles once they are in the United States by adding the requisite number of American-made parts;
Prohibit the use of a "thumbhole" stock as a means to avoid classification of a rifle as an assault rifle; and
Prohibit the importation of assault pistols, in addition to assault rifles."

The ban would target attributes like “thumbhole stocks” and “semi-automatic rifles with fixed magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds” which would prohibit tube-fed .22 rimfire rifles.

Additionally, rifles and “assault pistols” capable of accommodating detachable magazines with a capacity in excess of 10 rounds would be banned “regardless of the military pedigree of the firearm or the configuration of the firearm’s magazine well.”

She must be stopped. Please join us in an email campaign to all senators, voicing support against this attack on our 2nd Amendment rights.
Send a note to your respective Rep's please..you can do it through Hornady here:

http://www.hornady.com/in-the-news/political-action

PSM 03-26-2014 17:06

Oh, those silly Demoncrat hypocrites:

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California state Sen. Leland Yee arrested in federal raid

SAN FRANCISCO -- State Sen. Leland Yee, one of the most powerful Democratic politicians in California, was arrested Wednesday morning in a major series of federal raids in the Bay Area targeting corruption and gang activity, CBS San Francisco reported.

Federal agents arrested Lee at his home in San Francisco Wednesday morning and drove him to the federal courthouse while his offices in Sacramento were raided as well.

An FBI affidavit in support of a criminal complaint against Yee and 25 other people reveals the lawmaker is accused of conspiracy to deal firearms and wire fraud.

Full article: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/californ...-federal-raid/
Pat

badshot 03-26-2014 23:02

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004 (Post 546321)
And what is really hilarious, if he is in fact engaged in gun-running, is that this guy is notoriously anti-gun. He said, paraphrasing, "Nobody should have assault weapons. None. Nada."

Unless of course you buy them from him:D

Lan 03-27-2014 12:28

SB249
 
Senate Bill 249 authored by California Senator Leland Yee. SB 249 would make hundreds of thousands of law-abiding California gun owners – and visitors, such as shooting sports competitors – into criminals and subject hundreds of thousands of personal property items to state-sponsored confiscation without compensation, an unlawful taking under the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

Have fun in prison Leland! hahaha

Peregrino 03-27-2014 19:57

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004 (Post 546377)
From what they are saying about the corruption of this guy, from being willing to take bribes to telling investigators posing as gangsters that he "doesn't care" who gets the weapons, IMO he probably isn't really either anti-gun or pro-gun, he probably is literally the type of politician who will say and do whatever is needed to get elected. If he was in a pro-gun district, he'd probably be super pro-gun. But since he's in an anti-gun district, he's super anti-gun. The most common form of politician.

Fixed it for you! ;)

tonyz 03-28-2014 07:31

LOL, CA politician, Senator Leland Yee appears to share many of the spinal characteristics of Naegleria fowleri...he also inflicts a similar outcome on much of his loyal constituency.

mojaveman 03-28-2014 12:25

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Originally Posted by tonyz (Post 546410)
LOL, CA politician, Senator Leland Yee appears to share many of the spinal characteristics of Naegleria fowleri...he also inflicts a similar outcome on much of his loyal constituency.

Talk about a hypocrite! He sure pissed a lot of people off in this state but now, like me, they're probably all rejoicing.

ddoering 03-30-2014 18:40

He isn't out yet. He was probably framed for being a minority.

Stobey 04-05-2014 18:32

Interesting take on creating a climate of fear
 
This article from Freedom Outpost made a very valid point about schools (and their so-called "experts") creating a climate of fear, so that in the minds of the young, guns are to be viewed not as the inanimate objects that they are, but as a source of fear.

http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/04/pu...stage-tyranny/

cbtengr 04-05-2014 18:56

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Originally Posted by Stobey (Post 547043)
This article from Freedom Outpost made a very valid point about schools (and their so-called "experts") creating a climate of fear, so that in the minds of the young, guns are to be viewed not as the inanimate objects that they are, but as a source of fear.

From the article Yesterday in Baltimore, some students saw a person carrying a tripod through the school. Frightened, they reported this to administrators, which resulted in an immediate lockdown:

I would like to know if they stated they saw a person with a tripod and if that is indeed what they reported how does that equate to an immediate lockdown?

Stobey 04-05-2014 20:32

to cbtengr: Not sure if your question is to me or not. I'm sure you read the article, which reads:

Yesterday in Baltimore, some students saw a person carrying a tripod through the school. Frightened, they reported this to administrators, which resulted in an immediate lockdown:

This morning, KIPP Ujima Village Academy and KIPP Harmony were placed in heightened security status, based on a report of a possible intruder. Police responded and secured the building, while police and school staff together ensured the safety of all children and staff. After a thorough investigation, police determined that there was no intruder in the building or on school grounds.

“As a precaution while the large school building was searched, students were taken by bus to the shared campus of Baltimore Polytechnic Institute and Western High School. Parents were contacted by phone and through local and social media channels, and were directed to pick up children from that location. (source)
As it turned out, the person carrying the tripod was a journalism student and the tripod was for his camera. However, a SWAT team descended on the school and children and parents alike were terrified after a 4 hour lockdown scenario.

Critical thought is not encouraged. Panic is praised.

Security ‘expert’ Rob Weinhold sums it up:
“It’s just not a time to use any judgment. Take the guesswork out. Lock down the school system. Make sure everyone is safe.”



It would seem that after Sandy Hook, these are the playbook rules to follow.

cbtengr 04-05-2014 20:44

I did read the article, I just do not follow the logic of the lockdown regarding what someone saw that caused it. Does not take much to cause a panic does it?

Peregrino 04-06-2014 14:19

The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety.

Henry Louis Mencken

Trumped fears and baseless promises of security. And that's why "inferior men" are as sheep led to slaughter. Complacent to the very doors of the abattoir, rising in panic only when the stench of blood and offal overwhelm their ability to further delude themselves. And their panic avails nothing, serving only to taint the meat - but not so much as to render it unfit.

Lan 04-06-2014 14:59

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Originally Posted by cbtengr (Post 547048)
I did read the article, I just do not follow the logic of the lockdown regarding what someone saw that caused it. Does not take much to cause a panic does it?

A local elementary school was evacuated a couple weeks back in an area more 'country' than most California areas. Several kids reported seeing a man with a rifle on campus. Seems everyone is on heightened alert nowadays, even in gun friendly areas. Hard to tell what the reaction would have been before Sandy Hook; there was a range nearby years ago.

badshot 04-08-2014 01:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peregrino (Post 547087)
The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety.

Henry Louis Mencken

Trumped fears and baseless promises of security. And that's why "inferior men" are as sheep led to slaughter. Complacent to the very doors of the abattoir, rising in panic only when the stench of blood and offal overwhelm their ability to further delude themselves. And their panic avails nothing, serving only to taint the meat - but not so much as to render it unfit.

Very well said - teaching the little ones to swim and tell them everyone gets scared but that in order to figure out what you need to do you have to relax and 'think'.

The quote and these posts also illustrate that there ain't much thinkin' goin' on - just a lot of panic..which 'helps' no one except maybe the evil (as noted above)

miclo18d 04-08-2014 06:00

Florida is a mixed bag. On one hand you have George Z and the douche that shot the guy at the theater for no reason, then you have the beauty queen that used her pink gun to shoot a home invader. You also have this family. "The family that shoots together..."

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Man Who Broke Into Florida Family’s Home Really Had No Idea What Was Waiting for Him, Apr. 7, 2014 6:42pm, Jason Howerton

An armed Florida family banded together and fought back against a man who police say broke into their home early Monday morning. After the intruder ignored a warning shot, at least two of the family members shot the suspect, killing him.

A mother, father and son living in the Winter Haven, Fla., home reportedly woke up just before 7 a.m. to the sound of an unknown person trying to break in through a porch door. Police later identified the suspect as 40-year-old Mitchell Large.

One of the family members first tried to scare away the intruder with a warning shot. Large apparently did not heed the warning, a decision that would cost him his life.

The intruder managed to make his way into the kitchen — but by that point, three members of the Pena family were armed and ready to defend themselves and their home.

Police Chief Gary Hester said “at least two family members fired in defense of themselves and their property.” Though police say Large likely wasn’t armed, Hester said it appears the family was still within their rights to shoot the man.

“It’s not a very far reach to assume that if someone’s forcing their way into your residence early in the morning, they’re not there to wish you well,” the police chief said. “That’s your castle that a reported intruder is coming into, so whether he was armed or not armed, when he failed to retreat, they certainly had a right — if it turns out this way — would have a right to defend themselves.”

The Pena family told police they did not know Large.


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On a side note, The Florida Senate passes the "Warning Shot Law" (obviously a name to denigrate the law by the media)

House Bill 89 by Representative Neil Combee and Senator Greg Evers is on its way to the Governor.

Yesterday, April 3, 2014, HB-89 passed the Florida Senate by a vote of 32-7

In the Senate, 6 Democrats and 1 Republican voted against the bill.

Republicans voting against the bill were: John Legg (R-Lutz)

Democrats voting against the bill were: Oscar Braynon (D-Miami Gardens), Dwight Bullard (D-Cutler Bay), Arthenia Joyner (D)-Tampa), Gwen Margolis (D_Miami), Jeremy Ring (D-Margate), Chris Smith (D-Ft. Lauderdale)

Having previously passed the Florida House by a vote of 93-24, the bill is now making its way to the Governor's desk.

HB-89 is a bill to stop abusive prosecutors from using 10-20-LIFE to prosecute people who, in self-defense, threaten to use deadly force against an attacker as a means to stop an attack.

Some anti-gun, anti-self-defense prosecutors have been abusing the 10-20-LIFE law to prosecute average citizens who displayed a weapon or gun in self-defense to make an attacker back off.

Average citizens who never would have been in the system if they had not been attacked and in fear for their own safety, are being persecuted and prosecuted for defending themselves.

Because citizens took responsibility for their own safety, some prosecutors treat them like criminals and make them victims of a judicial system.

10-20-Life was passed to stop prosecutors and judges from slapping gun-wielding criminals on the wrist so they could quickly clear cases.

The 10-20-Life law was never intended to be used against citizens who, in an act of self-defense, threatened the use of force to stop an attacker, including the unwise use of a warning shot. Yet, that's what some prosecutors are doing. They are willfully and knowingly violating the intent of the law.

pcfixer 04-11-2014 06:19

Sig Sauer Vs, ATF
 
Sig filing suit for relief on use of muzzle break.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/217525302/...-ATF-Complaint

badshot 04-11-2014 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcfixer (Post 547559)
Sig filing suit for relief on use of muzzle break.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/217525302/...-ATF-Complaint

Too bad a suit and press coverage are the only things that seem to work these days.

akv 04-15-2014 08:22

82 Anti-gun House Democrats ask Obama to expand import ban
 
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82 Anti-gun House Democrats ask Obama to expand import ban
Posted By NRA ILA On 10:35 AM 04/12/2014 In | No Comments

On Wednesday, 82 members of the United States House of Representatives sent President Barack Obama a letter asking him to have the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) expand its ban on the importation of semi-automatic firearms and parts for such firearms (see related story).

As reported by the Washington Times on Thursday, “The letter asks that the administration ban the import of high-capacity weapons (sic), as well the frame or receiver of military-style weapons and the practice of importing the guns in parts and then assembling them in the country, among other items.”

While obviously a desperate attempt to cast attention away from the administration’s many problems, the request for an expanded firearm importation ban should not be taken lightly. Severe, politically-driven firearm importation restrictions have been imposed several times over the last 25 years without the consent of Congress, and President Obama has said that he intends to impose gun control with or without Congress’ consent during the remainder of his time in office.

In this instance, Obama’s authority to restrict firearm importation rests in Title 18, Section 925(d)(3) of the U.S. Code, a provision enacted by the Gun Control Act of 1968. Amended by the NRA-supported Firearms Owners’ Protection Act of 1986 to require, rather than merely allow, the administration to approve the importation of firearms, that provision states that “the Attorney General shall authorize a firearm or ammunition to be imported or brought into the United States or any possession thereof if the firearm or ammunition . . . is generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes . . . .”

For the record, the NRA doesn’t believe that the importation of firearms should be limited to those that have a relation to sports. The right to arms has always been about having arms for defensive purposes, and in 2008, in District of Columbia, v. Heller, the Supreme Court agreed. The Heller opinion, written by Justice Antonin Scalia, said “the inherent right of self-defense has been central to the Second Amendment right,” which includes “the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation.”

However, the BATFE doesn’t even interpret the law’s so-called “sporting purposes” test correctly. On several occasions over the last 25 years, it has deliberately changed its reading of the law, for political reasons, to prohibit the importation of semi-automatic firearms gun control supporters wanted banned.

In 1989, the BATFE (then BATF) concocted the theory that “sporting purposes” did not include practical-skills-based rifle competitions, which are dominated by semi-automatic, detachable-magazine rifles. It admitted that the National Rifle Trophy Matches and NRA National Rifle Championships are sporting, but ignored the fact that semi-automatic, detachable-magazine rifles dominate those events too. Further, it entirely ignored the law’s provision for firearms that are “readily adaptable” to a sporting purpose. It then banned the importation of 43 makes and models of semi-automatic rifles that it had previously approved for importation, including the exceptional Galil, HK-91/93/94 series, Fabrique Nationale FN and FNC, Steyr A.U.G, Valmet and, of course, the Kalashnikov series.

For years, the BATFE used Handgun Factoring Criteria which allow for the importation of handguns that get enough points on the basis of their size, caliber, safety features, sights and other physical attributes. In 1993, however, the agency ignored its own criteria and banned the importation of “assault pistols” that met the criteria, and that BATFE had previously approved.

In 1998, the BATFE expanded its 1989 ban by prohibiting any semi-automatic rifle that could accept a detachable magazine of over 10 rounds capacity, on the grounds that Sen. Feinstein’s “assault weapon” ban included a provision prohibiting the importation of newly-made such magazines. The BATFE simply ignored the fact that magazine capacity had nothing to do with whether firearms themselves were defined as “assault weapons” in Feinstein’s law.

Get 82 anti-gun members of Congress to sign onto something and you can bet there will be at least one lie or preposterous exaggeration, and this letter is no exception to that rule. The letter asks for a ban on the importation of AK-47-style pistols, claiming that they are the “top weapons of choice for international gun smugglers.” Yet it contradictorily identifies them as a “new breed of pistol” that has been “newly developed.” Maybe that’s what the letter’s authors, Rep, John Conyers (D-Mich.) and Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.) had in mind when they referred to their letter as “a no-brainer.”

The letter focuses on Kalashnikov-style firearms because they are so obviously a type of firearm that the Second Amendment protects under the guidelines established by the Supreme Court in the Heller case. In Heller, the Court said that the amendment protects the right to have firearms that are useful for defensive purposes and that are “in common use.” Millions of Kalashnikov-series rifles have been bought in America during the last quarter-century, making them among the most common of our time, and they are obviously among the rifles that are most useful for defensive purposes.

This latest request, however out of step with the prevailing sense of Congress, demonstrates a firearm importation law in severe need of revision, particularly when considered in the light of BATFE’s illegitimate, agenda-driven misinterpretations of that law in the past.

Article printed from The Daily Caller: http://dailycaller.com
URL to article: http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/12/82...nd-import-ban/

akv 04-16-2014 13:38

Bloomberg Plans a $50 Million Challenge to the N.R.A.
 
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Bloomberg Plans a $50 Million Challenge to the N.R.A.
By JEREMY W. PETERSAPRIL 15, 2014

Michael R. Bloomberg, making his first major political investment since leaving office, plans to spend $50 million this year building a nationwide grass-roots network to motivate voters who feel strongly about curbing gun violence, an organization he hopes can eventually outmuscle the National Rifle Association.

Mr. Bloomberg, the former mayor of New York, said gun control advocates need to learn from the N.R.A. and punish those politicians who fail to support their agenda — even Democrats whose positions otherwise align with his own.

“They say, ‘We don’t care. We’re going to go after you,’ ” he said of the N.R.A. “ ‘If you don’t vote with us we’re going to go after your kids and your grandkids and your great-grandkids. And we’re never going to stop.’ ”

He added: “We’ve got to make them afraid of us.”

The considerable advantages that gun rights advocates enjoy — in intensity, organization and political clout — will not be easy to overcome. Indeed, Mr. Bloomberg has already spent millions of dollars trying to persuade members of Congress to support enhanced background check laws with virtually nothing to show for it.

What is more, for many gun owners, the issue is a deeply personal one that energizes them politically, said Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America, who dismissed the mayor’s plans.

“He’s got the money to waste,” Mr. Pratt said. “So I guess he’s free to do so. But frankly, I think he’s going to find out why his side keeps losing.”

The N.R.A. had no comment.

Mr. Bloomberg’s blueprint reimagines the way gun control advocates have traditionally confronted the issue. Rather than relying so heavily on television ad campaigns, Mr. Bloomberg will put a large portion of his resources into the often-unseen field operations that have been effective for groups like the N.R.A. in driving single-issue, like-minded voters to the polls.

Women, and mothers in particular, will be the focus of the organizing and outreach, a path that he and his advisers have modeled after groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

The plans call for a restructuring of the gun control groups he funds, Mayors Against Illegal Guns and Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America. They will be brought under one new umbrella group called Everytown for Gun Safety.

The strategy will focus not on sweeping federal restrictions to ban certain weapons, but instead will seek to expand the background check system for gun buyers both at the state and national levels.

The $50 million could be significant: In recent years, the N.R.A. has spent only $20 million annually on political activities. The political groups affiliated with the billionaire Koch brothers, who are seeking to help Republicans take over the Senate, have spent about $30 million in the last six months.

The group will zero in on 15 target states, from places like Colorado and Washington State, where gun control initiatives have advanced recently, to territory that is likely to be more hostile like Texas, Montana and Indiana. They have set a goal of signing up one million new supporters this year on top of the 1.5 million they already have.

Previous efforts by Mr. Bloomberg to push gun control have touched off tensions with national Democratic leaders, because he has run negative ads against incumbent Democrats whom he views as insufficiently supportive of gun control. The Democratic leaders argue that Mr. Bloomberg threatens to hand control of the Senate to Republicans, which they say would doom any hope of passing gun control legislation.

Mr. Bloomberg dismissed those fears, saying he was concerned only with the long term.

“You can tell me all you want that the Republicans would be worse in the Senate than the Democrats,” he said. “Maybe they would. But that’s not what we’re talking about here.”

Underscoring his desire to work with both parties, Mr. Bloomberg is bringing on a new advisory board with prominent Republican and Democratic figures. Tom Ridge, the former Pennsylvania governor and Homeland Security secretary under President George W. Bush; Eli Broad, the philanthropist; Warren Buffett, the investor; and Michael G. Mullen, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under both Mr. Bush and President Obama, will all be board members.

Mr. Bloomberg acknowledged that his new efforts would require a dedication not just of money but also of time — two things he now has in abundance.

“You’ve got to work at it piece by piece,” he added. “One mom and another mom. You’ve got to wear them down until they finally say, ‘Enough.’ ”

He was also dismissive of skeptics who might question whether he could ever build an organization that rivaled the N.R.A. And he seemed unaware of, or unwilling to acknowledge, the ways in which his own persona — of a billionaire, Big Gulp-banning former mayor of New York — could undercut his efforts, especially in rural, conservative states.

“I don’t know what your perception is of our reputation, and mine, the name Bloomberg around the country,” he said. But every place he goes, he added, “You’re a rock star. People yelling out of cabs, ‘Hey, way to go!’ ”

His financial commitment to reducing gun violence could grow. When asked how much he was willing to spend, he tossed out the $50 million figure out as if he were describing the tip he left on a restaurant check.

“I put $50 million this year, last year into coal, $53 million into oceans,” he said with a shrug, describing his clean energy and sustainable fishing initiatives. “Certainly a number like that, $50 million. Let’s see what happens.”

The key to whether they can be effective, the mayor and his advisers said, will be turning out female voters, the sought-after swing bloc that has been pivotal in recent elections.

“Right now, women, when they go to the polls, they vote on abortion, they vote on jobs, they vote on health care,” said Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action. “We want one of those things to be gun violence prevention.”

Mr. Bloomberg was introspective as he spoke, and seemed both restless and wistful. When he sat down for the interview, it was a few days before his 50th college reunion. His mortality has started dawning on him, at 72. And he admitted he was a bit taken aback by how many of his former classmates had been appearing in the “in memoriam” pages of his school newsletter.

But if he senses that he may not have as much time left as he would like, he has little doubt about what would await him at a Judgment Day. Pointing to his work on gun safety, obesity and smoking cessation, he said with a grin: “I am telling you if there is a God, when I get to heaven I’m not stopping to be interviewed. I am heading straight in. I have earned my place in heaven. It’s not even close.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/us...a.html?src=twr

Badger52 04-18-2014 06:05

Outstanding.

Barbarian 04-18-2014 08:39

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Police arrested a 65-year-old man in Milford, Conn., after he allegedly shot a squirrel in his yard on Monday. Upon further investigation, officers recovered an unregistered “assault rifle” and three “large-capacity magazines.”
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“As the investigation progressed the officers seized several firearms from the home for safe keeping,” Officer Jeffrey Nielsen said in a press release. “That included the assault riffle and the three high capacity magazine he did not have registered.”

To reiterate, police confiscated “several” of the man’s other firearms, even though Nielsen admitted the majority of them were registered and legal.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...-safe-keeping/

I'll be interested to see where this goes.

tonyz 04-24-2014 08:21

Lest we forget...
 
Interesting read on Buckeye Firearms Association page..

Seventy-two killed resisting gun confiscation in Boston

by Author Unknown
7:00AM MONDAY, APRIL 21, 2014

Boston – National Guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed on April 19 by elements of a para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.

Speaking after the clash, Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement.

Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices.

The governor, who described the group's organizers as "criminals," issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government's efforts to secure law and order.

The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons.

Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting in early this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms.

One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that "none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily."

Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government's plans.

During a tense standoff in the Lexington town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists.
Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange.

Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, armed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith, finding his forces over matched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat.

Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops.

Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock, who have been identified as "ringleaders" of the extremist faction, remain at large.

And this, fellow Americans, is how the American Revolution began, in April, 1775.

On July 4th, 1776 these same extremists signed the Declaration of Independence, pledging to each other and their countrymen their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor. Many of them lost everything, including their families and their lives over the course of the next few years.

Lest we forget!!

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/seven...scation-boston

tonyz 04-25-2014 18:14

...imagine if Barry opens his mouth again publicly about gun control...

Bloomberg must be pissing himself.

Firearms applications surge, swamp registration system

Kevin Johnson, USA TODAY12:29 a.m. EDT April 25, 2014

WASHINGTON — A record surge in recent firearms production and transactions have swamped the federal government's automated registration system for select weapons, including machine guns.

In a notice earlier this month to the firearms industry, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said it was temporarily suspending parts of its computerized system to shore up capacity in part to process the required registration and transfer of National Firearms Act covered weapons, which also include silencers, short-barreled shotguns, short-barreled rifles and some explosive devices.

Between 2005 and 2013, firearms act-related applications "skyrocketed by more than 380%'' to nearly 200,000, according to the April 16 memo issued by ATF Deputy Assistant Director Marvin Richardson. The surge has contributed to a backlog of more than 70,000 applications.

Richardson's memo states that the ATF is "immediately'' hiring 15 people to assist with the application processing and deploying 15 current employees to the task.

The application deluge tracks a record annual increase in overall firearm production to more than 8.5 million guns in 2012, the most recent year for which the ATF collects such data. In 2011, there were 6.5 million firearms produced.

The increase was aided by a spike in the manufacture of rifles and pistols, continuing a trend that has been highlighted by industry representatives for the past several years.

"We have seen dramatic, unprecedented ... growth in the firearms and ammunition industry as the direct result of consumer demand for our products in the last five years,'' the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the gun industry's trade association, said on its website. "Not surprisingly, growth has placed added demand on the (ATF's) Office of Enforcement Programs and Services.

"Today, the office simply does not have the funding or personnel it needs to serve the industry and, by extension, our customers.''

The foundation estimated that the ATF's office needed $10 million in additional funding to "provide the level of service our industry needs to remain in compliance with federal law.''

According to ATF records, a total of 512,790 machine guns were registered across the country in 2014, more than 571,000 silencers, 2.2 million so-called destructive devices (which include grenades and other explosives), 137,201 short-barreled rifles and 131,951 short-barreled shotguns.

The automated ATF processing system was launched in 2013, but grew exponentially from 673 users last year to 10,000 today.


"Since January 2014, approximately 50% of firearms act applications have been submitted via'' the automated system, Richardson said in the memo. "This surge in demand has created the need to temporarily scale back ... submissions while the system is enhanced to handle greater capacity in the future."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ation/8115273/

Combat Diver 04-27-2014 16:32

Imagine how much we could save the tax payer if we just abolish the GCA 34' and 68'!

CD

tonyz 05-01-2014 10:11

A recent article relevant to this thread. Excerpts below with complete article at the link. First and Second Amendment analogies can prove interesting...if you listen to some Statist's interpretation of the the Second Amendment and apply it to the First Amendment...the NYT should still be using that little number designed by Gutenberg.

Does the Second Amendment Protect Firearms Commerce?
Defending the right to sell and trade arms

Commentary by David B. Kopel
APR 11, 2014
127 Harv. L. Rev. F. 230


The First Amendment protects both book buyers and booksellers. Does the Second Amendment protect only people who buy guns, or does it also protect people who sell guns? Though this question has divided the federal courts, the answer is quite clear: operating a business that provides Second Amendment services is protected by the Second Amendment. District of Columbia v. Heller1 teaches that regulation of how firearms are commercially sold enjoys a presumption of constitutionality, which does not extend to prohibitions of firearms sales.

In terms of the original meaning of the Second Amendment, the right to engage in firearms commerce is clear. It is one of the most important reasons why America’s political dispute with Great Britain turned into an armed revolution.

In the fall of 1774, King George III embargoed all imports of firearms and ammunition into the thirteen colonies.38 The Americans treated the embargo on firearms commerce as evidence of plain intent to enslave America, and the Americans redoubled their efforts to engage in firearms commerce. For example, the Patriots in South Carolina were led by the “General Committee,” which declared: “[B]y the late prohibition of exporting arms and ammunition from England, it too clearly appears a design of disarming the people of America, in order the more speedily to dragoon and enslave them.”39 Writes one early-nineteenth-century historian, “[I]t was therefore recommended, to all persons, to provide themselves immediately, with at least twelve and a half rounds of powder, with a proportionate quantity of bullets.”40

The British and the Americans agreed that the reimposition of London’s rule in the United States required the prohibition of the firearms business. In 1777, with British victory seemingly within grasp, Colonial Undersecretary William Knox drafted a plan entitledWhat Is Fit to Be Done with America? To prevent any future rebellions, Knox planned that the Church of England be established as the official religion throughout America; that Parliament have power to tax America domestically (although there were no Americans in Parliament); and that a hereditary aristocracy be created in America. Another part of the plan was that “the Arms of all the People should be taken away . . . nor should any Foundery or manufactuary of Arms, Gunpowder, or Warlike Stores, be ever suffered in America, nor should any Gunpowder, Lead, Arms or Ordnance be imported into it without Licence.”41

The opposite of What Is Fit to Be Done with America? is the Constitution of the United States of America. No national religion.42 The tax power solely in the hands of a representative Congress.43 No titles of nobility.44 And a guarantee of the right to buy, sell, and manufacture arms.45


http://harvardlawreview.org/2014/04/...arms-commerce/

pcfixer 05-06-2014 12:28

Supreme Court Not Serious about 2 A
 
http://www.cato.org/blog/supreme-cou...cond-amendment


Quote:

While the media attention will focus on the Supreme Court’s ruling in Town of Greece v. Galloway – the legislative-prayer case – the more interesting (and consequential) decision issued today was the Court’s denial of review in Drake v. Jerejian, the Second Amendment case I previously discussed here. In Drake, the lower federal courts upheld an outrageous New Jersey law that denies the right to bear arms outside the home for self-defense – just like the D.C. law at issue in District of Columbia v. Heller denied the right to keep arms inside the home – and today the Supreme Court let them get away with it.

Quote:

Although the Supreme Court in Heller declared that the Second Amendment protects an individual constitutional right, lower federal courts with jurisdiction over states like Maryland and New York have been “willfully confused” about the scope of that right, declining to protect it outside Heller’s particular facts (a complete ban on functional firearms in the home).
Yet each time, the Supreme Court has denied review.
Quote:

In Cato’s amicus brief in Drake, we posed an alternate “question presented” (legalese for the issue that a brief asks a court to resolve):

Was this Court serious in District of Columbia v. Heller when it ruled that the Second Amendment protects the individual right to keep and bear arms?

Team Sergeant 05-22-2014 10:45

GunFree Zones make Happy Criminals
 
I find it very difficult to believe that the criminal did NOT respect the signage and the "GunFree" zone! (He must have been from Chicago.)


Restaurant with 'No Weapons, No Concealed Firearms' Sign Robbed at Gunpoint
by AWR Hawkins 22 May 2014, 7:53 AM PDT

A Durham, North Carolina restaurant with a sign on its front door reading, "No Weapons, No Concealed Firearms," was robbed at gunpoint on May 19.

Gunsnfreedom.com published a photograph of the sign on May 21, making "The Pit" restaurant a self-declared gun free zone--the same kind of zone Michael Bloomberg and Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America pressure other restaurants into becoming.
According to Durham's ABC 11, around 9 PM "three men wearing hoodies entered the restaurant through the back doors with pistols, and forced several staff members to lie on the floor." The armed men "also assaulted two employees during the crime."

The suspects are still on the loose.

cont:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ed-At-Gunpoint

Stobey 05-22-2014 12:18

And the best reply is...
 
It just wasn't this guy's day. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsVCHE7ayPE

pcfixer 06-17-2014 06:59

Abramski v. United States
 
http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/06...urchase-rules/

Abramski v. United States
Supreme Court Affirms Conviction In Gun “Straw Purchase” Case

Quote:

Scalia acknowledges that certainly one purpose of the Act was to increase the difficulty for ineligible persons to acquire guns, but that purpose was not an absolute. Indeed, he notes numerous circumstances under which both Government itself acknowledges that one person can buy, through an FFL transfer, a firearm with the full intent of promptly delivering that firearm to a third person who was no part of the FFL transaction, including


Guns Intended as Gifts. In the government’s view, an individual who buys a gun “with the intent of making a gift of the firearm to another person” is the gun’s “true purchaser.” The Government’s position makes no exception for situations where the gift is specifically requested by the recipient (as gifts sometimes are). So long as no money changes hands, and no agency relationship is formed, between gifter and gifteee, the Act is concerned only with the man ["buyer"] at the counter.

Guns Intended for Resale. Introducing money into the equation does not automatically change the outcome. The Government admits that the man at the counter is the true purchaser even if he immediately sells the gun to someone else. And it appears the Government’s position would be the same even if the man at the counter purchased the gun with the intent to sell it to a particular third party, so long as the two did not enter into a common-law agency relationship.

Intended as Raffle Prizes. The Government considers he man at the counter the true purchaser even if he is buying the gun “for the purpose of raffling [it] at an event”–in which case he can provide his own information on Form 4473 and “transfer the firearm to the raffle winner without a Form 4473 being completed or a [background] check being conducted” on the winner.

He wonders:


Why is the majority convinced that a statute with so many admitted loopholes does not contain this particular ["straw purchase"] loophole? . . . What the scenarios described above show is that the statute typically is concerned only with the man at the counter, even when that man is in a practical sense a “conduit” who will promptly transfer the gun to someone else.

Constant 06-27-2014 16:51

Solidifies me not returning to Colorado when I retire (bought land when stationed there). Looks like home will be Missouri for now (born/raised). Idaho is looking promising as well.


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