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Roguish Lawyer 09-07-2020 16:40

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Originally Posted by tonyz (Post 662057)
Eye opener...type into the web browser above...the phrase... antifa.com

Simply...

antifa.com

Where it says “not secure-professionalsoldiers.com”

...see where it takes you. :eek:

ETA Ok, ok...for those too cautious to type in antifa.com

You won’t believe it but it auto-redirects to joebiden.com. :eek:

:D

Roguish Lawyer 09-07-2020 16:41

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 662120)
I'm not a lawyer, but shouldn't antifa be chargeable under the RICO Act?

TR

Yes but apparently there are serious challenges trying to identify these people, or at least that's what DOJ is saying publicly.

RCummings 09-07-2020 17:39

As Gen. Vessey once said to me, several times, Bull Sh**.

It is said that, "For every action there is a reason or purpose.

V/R

Bob

Old Dog New Trick 09-07-2020 18:11

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer (Post 662215)
Yes but apparently there are serious challenges trying to identify these people, or at least that's what DOJ is saying publicly.

Fingerprints and mug shots used to be applied equally well across all 50 states and the database today goes right through the FBI or at least it used to before Comey was in charge.

Roguish Lawyer 09-07-2020 18:27

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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick (Post 662219)
Fingerprints and mug shots used to be applied equally well across all 50 states and the database today goes right through the FBI or at least it used to before Comey was in charge.

The problem is that ANTIFA is not one organization, but a very loosely affiliated group of small organizations. And they apparently use some halfway decent tradecraft. Again, just repeating what I've heard/seen from secondary sources.

doctom54 09-07-2020 18:33

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer (Post 662215)
Yes but apparently there are serious challenges trying to identify these people, or at least that's what DOJ is saying publicly.

Bravo Sierra these days.
You can ID anyone

Paslode 09-07-2020 18:45

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer (Post 662220)
The problem is that ANTIFA is not one organization, but a very loosely affiliated group of small organizations. And they apparently use some halfway decent tradecraft. Again, just repeating what I've heard/seen from secondary sources.

From a layman perspective, one would think they could get a FISA warrant and dig through the NSA database that tracks everything, everyone does....like they did to President Trump and many others back in 2015.

The Reaper 09-07-2020 20:56

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer (Post 662215)
Yes but apparently there are serious challenges trying to identify these people, or at least that's what DOJ is saying publicly.

Hell, some of them are arrested and taken into custody a couple of times per week.

You can find them participating, if not directing riots in the streets and later at the local jail, till they are bailed out.

If this is a conspiracy, and rich, powerful leftists and communists are involved, bring them to justice and put them in Epstein's cell.

TR

Old Dog New Trick 09-07-2020 21:42

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer (Post 662220)
The problem is that ANTIFA is not one organization, but a very loosely affiliated group of small organizations. And they apparently use some halfway decent tradecraft. Again, just repeating what I've heard/seen from secondary sources.

I’d argue council that they are not. They may remain compartmentalized, but they continue to evolve from their earlier Anarchist days from the World Trade Organization riots of 1999. They are an international terrorist organization (or they should be) and they are made up of intelligent leaders using masks and deceptive practices to keep out of the spotlight and protect their funding and hierarchy.

The police are lucky to catch significant mid-level leaders (perhaps) like the California professor who was caught beating someone with a bike lock but for everyone of them - there are fifty wannabe “Black Block” members who do the damage and disruption efforts.

When the police just push them down the street and don’t arrest and process for crimes they continue to grow in both numbers and level of violence.

Some (rightfully or not) have blamed G. Soros, maybe, but some are now speculating that B. Gates, W. Buffet and groups affiliated with Fortune 500 companies are supplying the money to overthrow or create controversy for their own gain. And that’s just the US market. As I said this is an international force with roots in Germany.

It’s easy to send out pawns to break shit, especially if there’re no repercussions. But if the “pawns” get rolled up and sent to prison for 10-years for “conspiracy to commit” eventually you have to pay more and put yourself out there further to recruit new pawns.

Just my “legal” perspective.

JJ_BPK 09-08-2020 05:38

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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick (Post 662226)
I’d argue council that they are not. They may remain compartmentalized, but they continue to evolve from their earlier Anarchist days from the World Trade Organization riots of 1999. They are an international terrorist organization (or they should be) and they are made up of intelligent leaders using masks and deceptive practices to keep out of the spotlight and protect their funding and hierarchy.

The police are lucky to catch significant mid-level leaders (perhaps) like the California professor who was caught beating someone with a bike lock but for everyone of them - there are fifty wannabe “Black Block” members who do the damage and disruption efforts.

When the police just push them down the street and don’t arrest and process for crimes they continue to grow in both numbers and level of violence.

Some (rightfully or not) have blamed G. Soros, maybe, but some are now speculating that B. Gates, W. Buffet and groups affiliated with Fortune 500 companies are supplying the money to overthrow or create controversy for their own gain. And that’s just the US market. As I said this is an international force with roots in Germany.

It’s easy to send out pawns to break shit, especially if their are no repercussions. But if the “pawns” get rolled up and sent to prison for 10-years for “conspiracy to commit” eventually you have to pay more and put yourself out there further to recruit new pawns.

Just my “legal” perspective.

ODNT, BINGO..

Allowing the Democratic Governors, Mayors, and DA's the freedom to not pursue any type of adjudication via verbal edicts brakes the ability of federal authorities to roll up the lower levels.

The ability to roll-up and squeeze the street pawns is central to finding the upper levels of both leadership and financials.

Top-down is not going to be productive and will spend lots of effort and monies. Trying to thread the cause(S) via a Soros, Gates, or Buffet is only good for the MSM political rant. All-flash and little substance.

Badger52 09-08-2020 06:35

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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick (Post 662226)
It’s easy to send out pawns to break shit, especially if their are no repercussions. But if the “pawns” get rolled up and sent to prison for 10-years for “conspiracy to commit” eventually you have to pay more and put yourself out there further to recruit new pawns.

Just my “legal” perspective.

+1 The notion of "pawns" is perfect for many of their street-doings; that chessboard setup is exactly that. They're behind, with radios and imported tools for their "diversity of approaches" which is their dog-whistle for violence. When those pawns (mostly local) get rolled up and STAY rolled up, with real consequences that go beyond "Mommy I wanna go home now..." then future pawns will quit answering the ad on the student bulletin board or the Craigslist ad.

Citizen groups (those that exist anyway) should send a letter to their local "rulers" (mayor, county board supervisor) that if the rulers ever issue a directive to the LE under their purview to "stand down" and not take out the trash, then the citizen group will fill-in as needed and establish their own RoE. And publish that letter in the local rag, at least 1/2 page ad unless a sympathetic editor can be found.

EricV 09-08-2020 11:02

And on the lighter side, ANTIFA has created a New Dance Crazy!!

"The Hot Foot Shuffle" set to a couple of different tunes!! :D

https://twitter.com/Memes_4_Luke/sta...58987498459136

Airbornelawyer 09-08-2020 11:34

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer (Post 662220)
The problem is that ANTIFA is not one organization, but a very loosely affiliated group of small organizations. And they apparently use some halfway decent tradecraft. Again, just repeating what I've heard/seen from secondary sources.

If only we had some experience dealing with a terroristic organization that is not one organization, but a very loosely affiliated group, ... maybe one also beginning and ending with "a".

Badger52 09-08-2020 19:19

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Originally Posted by Airbornelawyer (Post 662233)
If only we had some experience dealing with a terroristic organization that is not one organization, but a very loosely affiliated group, ... maybe one also beginning and ending with "a".

The mind reels.
:cool:

tonyz 09-09-2020 07:52

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Originally Posted by EricV (Post 662231)
And on the lighter side, ANTIFA has created a New Dance Crazy!!

"The Hot Foot Shuffle" set to a couple of different tunes!! :D

https://twitter.com/Memes_4_Luke/sta...58987498459136

The Bolsheviks invite Vyacheslav Molotov to the street party...


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