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GratefulCitizen 03-08-2014 00:04

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Originally Posted by badshot (Post 544419)
You're right...

Looking forward to the day that the courts use a dictionary on the word "Bear" (the verb). Would sure hate to have to carry a bear around :D

http://youtu.be/gHJWofb5M_k
:D

badshot 03-08-2014 01:22

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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen (Post 544426)

I'll have to use that one in future...who could possibly misconstrue such a simple word?

Here comes my new year's word, Mor..., nope it speaks for itself.

MtnGoat 03-08-2014 07:23

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 544405)
A couple of interesting articles on the topic.

"Dear Mr. Security Agent,

Federal, state, or local. You, the man or woman with the badge, the sworn LEO or FLEA and those who inhabit the many law enforcement niches in between and on all sides. This essay is directed to you, because in the end, how this turmoil about gun control turns out will depend largely upon your decisions and actions over the coming months and years.

I sincerely wish that members of Congress—who may soon be voting on new gun control measures—would read this essay, but I realize that’s a pipe dream, considering the impenetrable bubbles around those exalted entities. So I’ll settle for you, Mr. (or Ms.) Security Agent, since you already gobble up everything on the internet, and I don’t have to seek you out.

A decade ago I wrote the novel Enemies Foreign and Domestic, a tale about how tragic events involving the misuse of firearms can be used by an evil administration to misinform and mold public opinion to support its malign anti-freedom policies...."(cont. at link)

http://westernrifleshooters.wordpres...ecurity-agent/

Very interesting reads.

TR


His YELLOW, RED and DEAD LINES I totally agree with. We can all see this happening across America. The chipping away of freedom in a subversion and sabotage style that in under the radar for most.

I think Switzerland and Israel or better examples of nations that have good gun-control and citizens that understand the use of guns.

Combat Diver 03-08-2014 08:30

Switzerland been moving in the other direction lately. More restirctions on FA and you can not carry period so my friend there tells me.

CD

Max_Tab 03-09-2014 18:07

Hell yeah
 
Looks like someone took a page from our book.

http://www.examiner.com/article/conn...e-new-gun-laws

MR2 03-09-2014 18:31

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Gun design evolves a little every year...

pcfixer 03-09-2014 19:00

n Open Letter to Lt Vance of the CT State Police
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24b4hMMrq90

badshot 03-10-2014 04:44

In reference to Examiner article.

When all this started many of the Sheriffs in Montana got together and went on all the local News to let everyone know "we won't enforce any gun law that 'infringes' on the 2nd Amendment". It was the wisest thing to do there.

Hmm there's some other simple words...
"Shall not be infringed" wtf

Proud of you Connecticut, very.

Max_Tab 03-10-2014 07:35

I'm curious if any Staties signed it, and how many of them feel?

Javadrinker 03-10-2014 09:04

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Originally Posted by pcfixer (Post 544583)

interesting ...in this recording the Conn. St. Police Lt. Vance says the letter was sent basically saying "that we know you have the weapon". But we do not have weapon registration, really?

Team Sergeant 03-11-2014 13:03

Connecticut police officer Joseph Peterson, a real idiot
 
http://www.infowars.com/conn-cop-i-w...nfiscate-guns/

First, I don't like Infowars but I've no doubt that any other MSM would not have run this story. If you read the exchange you'll see that Connecticut police officer Joseph Peterson is quite overzealous in his comments and his lack of understanding concerning the 2nd Amendment.

What Connecticut police officer Joseph Peterson (and the Connecticut leadership) doesn't understand is the bigger picture and what is actually at stake. You see Connecticut police officer Joseph Peterson once you start physically confiscating guns of law abiding Americans you will start a war and one that you and your liberal/progressive/socialist puppet masters will not win.

When you Connecticut police officer Joseph Peterson (and those like you) decide to take action by confiscating weapons of law abiding Americans so will I take action, but unlike you I can wait and I will be planning. You see officer Joseph Peterson it's been stated that only 13% of the firearms owners of Connecticut have complied, they are the sheep. But that 87% that did not comply, they will stand with me and I with them.

This is not about income inequality or the redistribution of wealth, it's not about corporate greed, greenhouse gasses or global warming, its defiantly not about race, creed or gender, it all about individual human Freedoms. A concept that is too difficult for most to understand, until they lose it and why we have a 2nd Amendment in our Constitution to protect our citizens against government tyranny.

You see Connecticut police officer Joseph Peterson, when the confiscating of guns of law abiding Americans begins I will continue to fulfill my obligations as a soldier and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Badger52 03-11-2014 13:24

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 544766)
...but unlike you I can wait and I will be planning.

All very well-written Team Sergeant.
And the moment the door begins to move off its hinges Officer Joseph Peterson and his fellow lackeys have lost all standing and will own whatever follows.

Funny, I see the Linkedin profile of Connecticut police officer Joseph Peterson is no longer available as referenced in the article. Hmm.

The Reaper 03-11-2014 13:31

1st US Supreme Court Chief Justice John Jay to jurors: "You have a right to take upon yourselves to judge [both the facts and law]."

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/project...ification.html

TR

sinjefe 03-11-2014 13:36

III%

Stiletto11 03-11-2014 13:40

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Originally Posted by sinjefe (Post 544771)
III%

Roger

JimP 03-11-2014 14:35

I'll leave the light on for them....

Stiletto11 03-11-2014 19:43

No worries, his address and phone numbers have been posted on the net.

Stiletto11 03-13-2014 19:58

Update on CT
 
There have been reports that Navy veteran John Cinque has been receiving threats because of his stance on the issue of Connecticut's gun registration law. Apparently those reports are due to a misreading of a piece by the New Haven Register in which Cinque said, "There have been threats made — that I found out about today." Freedom Outpost reached out to John Cinque, who spoke with us this morning and confirmed that the threats he was speaking about were towards the Branford Police, not towards him.

"The cops are having the threats…. they are scared," he told us.

According to Cinque, Officer Joseph Peterson, who made comments in interaction on Facebook while off duty that he would "give my left nut to bang down your door and come for your gun…" has been placed on 24-hour guard due to threats on his life. This information came directly from Police Chief Kevin Halloran.

Mr. Cinque told us that he had a two and a half hour "sit down" with the Branford Police Department on Tuesday. He said that the Branford PD was supposed to come out with an apology for Peterson's comments and wanted Cinque's endorsement of the apology in an attempt to cool things down.

"The first words out of the police chief's mouth… were 'How can you help us with this?'" Cinque said. "They're getting killed over there. They said they can do nothing but deal with this."

Cinque's endorsement would not be automatic. "There are some things here that need to be addressed before I endorse the apology," he said. "Don't make the apology to me. The apology has to be to the residents of Branford and to the citizens of the State of Connecticut."

"If we are looking to tamp this thing down…none of us need violence here," Cinque continued.

"We're winning this thing; we're winning this thing hard here," Cinque said, referring to the efforts to ignore unconstitutional and unlawful legislation that seeks to have citizens register their semi-automatic rifles and high capacity magazines.

"That's the last thing we need," he added, referring to violence.

"We're going to try to throw water on this thing and get it calmed down ..." Cinque said. "The whole premise of where Joe's coming from has to be addressed, and now it has been ... Now it's time to calm it down ...

"The problem now is, we have a forest fire burning, and we've got to see how we can go about extinguishing it," he said.

John Cinque stressed that threats and violence on both sides is not what will win the day. "None of us wants violence anyway."

Cinque also pointed out that no ex post facto laws or retainers can be instituted, and that doesn't apply to just guns.

For his part, Cinque said there would have to be several things in the apology before he would endorse it. One of those things would be remedial training in the United States Constitution for Officer Joseph Peterson and the other officers of the Branford Police Department. Another would be a stand that the Police Department would not be involved in the enforcement of the gun registration law.

Branford Police as scheduled to contact John Cinque today. At the time of the writing of this article, they have not done so. The purpose of the contact, according to Mr. Cinque, is to get his approval of their apology, which they will seek to have broadcast via television with Mr. Cinque lending his approval to the apology.

While Mr. Cinque has been thrown into a whirlwind of news publicity in the past week, he is confident that cooler heads will prevail and wants to be part of the solution, not part of the problem. That solution is to have constitutionally educated law enforcement officers, who also understand the history of gun registration / confiscation, and a citizenry who elect lawmakers who understand the same.

Mr. Cinque has said that he will update us on any progress of the Branford Police apology. If, and when, it becomes public, we will provide our readers with that information.

This is a lesson in how to deal with this issue in your own town, county and state. The people must be vocal and they must not back down. Threats of violence are not the way to go about things. Citizens are to remain vigilant, and the only proper use of force would be defensively. I applaud the efforts of patriots like John Cinque and others who have drawn a line in the sand, and unlike a certain occupant of the White House, don't blink when the line is crossed.

Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/03/th...2zo7jwYAgeZ.99

Badger52 03-14-2014 05:09

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 486163)
Protecting the Second Amendment – Why all Americans Should Be Concerned
29 Jan 2013
Page 3 of 3
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Our children are watching and they will follow the example we set.

Stilletto, thanks for posting.

Stiletto11 03-14-2014 06:42

It appears they are stuck in the OODA Loop, confused as how to proceed.

BryanK 03-14-2014 06:56

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Originally Posted by Stiletto11 (Post 545150)
...While Mr. Cinque has been thrown into a whirlwind of news publicity in the past week, he is confident that cooler heads will prevail and wants to be part of the solution, not part of the problem. That solution is to have constitutionally educated law enforcement officers, who also understand the history of gun registration / confiscation, and a citizenry who elect lawmakers who understand the same.

I have been racking my brain to come up with a viable solution to this issue (2A encroachment), and other issues plaguing our way of life as Americans. That is why I am a member of this forum, because I am interested in the SF way of life, and from what I understand, problem solving is a big part of that way of life. As I see it, we have some enormous problems that need solving.

In regard to the highlighted portion of the article, I am having a difficult time understanding the phrase “cooler heads will prevail". From my view of outside looking in, voting and educating haven't done squat but allow the powers that be to further diminish our Constitutional rights by way of the death by a thousand cuts method to satisfy greed. So how do we, as a Nation, either regain our rights, or cease the actions being taken to whittle down those rights? Judging from the last two Presidential elections and other elections across the board, the vast majority of people in America don't give two pennies about what happens to the Nation as a whole, so long as it doesn't interfere with their TV reception. So how will you convince millions of sheeple to wake the hell up? I don't have the answers, and that is why I pose these questions. It just seems apparent that being the cooler head gets you pissed on to warm it back up.

Americans have short attention spans. You can give the best speech or show the best TV ads and two minutes later, after that trip to Wendy's, all is forgotten. I saw this country band together for the most part right after 9/11, and it stayed that way for a few years. Is that what it will take? Will it take another outside attack that destroys American lives and families for people to realize just how precious our liberty is? I certainly and sincerely hope that does not happen again, so what can we do? There are enough great minds on this board to come up with alternative solutions that we can maybe forward to elected officials and get real results instead of empty promises.

The letter in the original post of this thread is a great start, but outside of a few websites, I haven’t seen it mentioned by anyone it was directed to anywhere else. So now what? How can we get our elected officials to really listen? The dissent shown in Connecticut is also a great start, but those individuals who defied their leaders are now felons. Will America get up in arms when they start kicking in doors and dragging these newly minted criminals out to the patty wagon? I doubt it.

A compilation of ideas has led me to a solution, albeit it may get me arrested for thoughtcrime. Here goes the "what if...?". What if, we had a person or a handful of intelligent, charismatic, and articulate people who hold a "Million man march" rally of sorts in DC while Congress is in session? While having personnel in the crowd to self-police, we move the crowd to the U.S. Capitol. We then physically open the doors, and with a list of those seated who are blatantly opposed to the Constitution, start systematically offering the ultimatum of either "get out, or we'll throw you out".

With sufficient numbers, I believe this could be a solution without a shot being fired. We would keep those who have the core beliefs this Nation was built on to aid in the reconstruction of Congress, and hold emergency elections in each district not represented any longer to repopulate the empty seats. The voting tickets would have no party affiliations listed, just a limited number of candidates who have 48 hours to state their case via televised town hall style forums.

This would be an "action" that Americans would pay attention to, while simultaneously reverting back to the way business should be conducted according to the provisions outlined in the Constitution. It sounds crazy, but I'm just spitballing here to see what others think.

Stiletto11 03-14-2014 07:15

First of all, a person is not a felon unless tried by his peers and found guilty. There is no such thing as a expost facto felon or paper felon. Secondly, I can't agree with the idea of marches, letter writing, hearings, phone calls etc. It was already done and didn't work. The legislature and Governor of CT got their marching orders from DC. Gun Control is an agenda that does not include rational thinking. It is put in place for a reason and the reason is one of disarmament and disarmament alone. Do not be fooled. The line has been drawn and the actors will take their course. Not a rant just some thoughts on the subject.

casey 03-14-2014 07:18

Do not - for a second - think that the vast majority of LEO's subscribe to this Barney Fife's sheeple mentality. At least in the very large group I associate with, the day that we turn our backs on the Constitution and begin putting yellow Juden stars on gun owners is the day we have lost everything.

I sometimes feel as if we are watching our own decline into nation of cowards - or I guess I'm just shocked at the lack of outrage. Laws are changed on whims and checkpoints are set up for DNA sampling?? And now you want to take away Joe Citizens right to defend themselves?

I will choose to follow established and historical precedents - unregistered weapons are NOT illegal - they are simply undocumented.............

"So at this point, what difference does it make".........

Stiletto11 03-14-2014 07:34

The propaganda campaign rolls on and gun owners and guns in general are being characterized as evil and the sheep eat this stuff like its candy. Connecticut politicians thought that everyone would just obey and that was a miscalculation based on arrogance and a thirst for power. There are plenty of keyboard warriors who talk tough until it is time to go to the fight. I saws them in line registering mags and rifles. Time will tell but I hope that all freedom loving individuals gun owners or not will band together for a common cause....Freedom. We live in precarious times.

Team Sergeant 03-14-2014 11:23

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Originally Posted by casey (Post 545197)
Do not - for a second - think that the vast majority of LEO's subscribe to this Barney Fife's sheeple mentality. At least in the very large group I associate with, the day that we turn our backs on the Constitution and begin putting yellow Juden stars on gun owners is the day we have lost everything.

I sometimes feel as if we are watching our own decline into nation of cowards - or I guess I'm just shocked at the lack of outrage. Laws are changed on whims and checkpoints are set up for DNA sampling?? And now you want to take away Joe Citizens right to defend themselves?

I will choose to follow established and historical precedents - unregistered weapons are NOT illegal - they are simply undocumented.............

"So at this point, what difference does it make".........

I think that when the confiscations begin you'll see outrage not seen in this country since the civil war.....

Politicians are not above the law as they seem to think.

badshot 03-14-2014 11:57

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 545229)
I think that when the confiscations begin you'll see outrage not seen in this country since the civil war.....

Politicians are not above the law as they seem to think.

Then can we put them on boats and planes to Europe and take away their f'in computers? :@-;&%:(*

Stiletto11 03-14-2014 20:36

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 545229)
I think that when the confiscations begin you'll see outrage not seen in this country since the civil war.....

Politicians are not above the law as they seem to think.

I hope you're right.

Oldrotorhead 03-18-2014 08:35

I hope the Supreme Court supports the 2A on this one. The ONLY thing I miss that NJ has is their beaches.


Case to Watch: Drake v. Jerejian
by Allen Thompson, Esq.

By Allen Thompson, Esq.

The Supreme Court of the United States has decided not to hear several important firearms rights cases this year, setting aside such issues as: whether a concealed carry permit-holder residing at a house creates an exigent circumstance in which police do not have to announce their presence, and whether a 10-round magazine, deemed protected by the Second Amendment, can be prohibited as a safety measure. However, one case is still standing and the Supreme Court is still receiving briefs on the merits.

Drake v. Jerejian, Docket No. 13-827 (which started out life as Drake v. Filko), challenges New Jersey’s impossibly restrictive carry permit requirements. In order to gain a carry permit in New Jersey, one must first demonstrate “justifiable need.” To many people’s surprise, one can only show “justifiable need” in one of two ways: a specific threat against the person, or a significant enough history to demonstrate that need. In addition, one must show that carrying a firearm is the only way to prevent harm from the attack. Once local law enforcement signs off on the permit, an applicant still needs approval from the New Jersey Superior Court. And, as Mr. Drake found out, even if the local law enforcement authorities grant the permit, the New Jersey State Police is still likely to appeal.

John Drake, Gregory Gallaher, Lenny Salerno, and Finley Fenton, along with the Second Amendment Foundation and the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs, filed suit challenging the essential ban on carrying in New Jersey. John Drake, who operates a business restocking and servicing ATM machines, necessarily carries large amounts of cash on him and desired to carry a firearm for protection. After initially being approved by the local law enforcement agency, the New Jersey State Police appealed and the Superior Court reversed the LEO’s approval. The current lawsuit was then filed and the denial was eventually upheld by the Third Circuit. Petitioners then appealed to the Supreme Court, where the case currently sits, awaiting its fate.

To date, numerous heavy hitters have entered the arena as amici, or third-parties with some interest in the outcome of the case. The NRA, the Claremont Institute’s Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence, and the Cato Institute have all filed briefs in support of the challenge to New Jersey’s law. Nineteen states* also filed to support the challenge, as well as the Judicial Education Project. A single brief was filed on behalf of the following: Gun Owners Foundation, Gun Owners of America, U.S. Justice Foundation, Lincoln Institute for Research and Education, Abraham Lincoln Foundation, Institute on the Constitution, Conservative Legal Defense and Education Fund, and the Policy Analysis Center. Members of Congress submitted a brief, as well, urging clarification on firearms laws.

Respondents (those defending New Jersey’s law) had until March 14 to file a response. Although nothing has been posted on the docket as of yet, it is quite possible that, because March 14 was a Friday and Monday saw inclement weather in Washington, D.C., the docket simply does not reflect the submission yet. We will keep you posted as this case progresses.



*The following states joined Wyoming in filing the amicus brief in support of the Petitioners: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, and West Virginia.


New post on Prince Law Offices, P.C.

Snaquebite 03-21-2014 06:36

The letter is in the news again
http://madworldnews.com/green-berets...ond-amendment/

This comment was interesting... How would you respond?
Quote:

"Interesting read. I did find it odd, considering the source, that they chose to include this quote, which would seem to undermine the value of the very existence of the group writing the letter: "It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace... "

Pericles 03-21-2014 12:45

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Originally Posted by Snaquebite (Post 545823)
The letter is in the news again
http://madworldnews.com/green-berets...ond-amendment/

This comment was interesting... How would you respond?

1. That decision is made by Congress, not the military itself.

2. Contrary to Washington's wishes, the US has a number of treaty commitments for the defense of allies around the world. As the militia is limited by the Constitution to repelling invasions, suppressing insurrections, and enforcing the laws of the union, those defense commitments must be met with the use of regular and volunteer forces.

Badger52 03-24-2014 04:33

Thanks for that link BS; a perusal of the comments also yielded a more diverse group that read it than I would have supposed.

FlagDayNCO 03-24-2014 07:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldrotorhead (Post 545553)
I hope the Supreme Court supports the 2A on this one. The ONLY thing I miss that NJ has is their beaches.


Case to Watch: Drake v. Jerejian
by Allen Thompson, Esq.

Drake v. Jerejian, Docket No. 13-827 (which started out life as Drake v. Filko), challenges New Jersey’s impossibly restrictive carry permit requirements. In order to gain a carry permit in New Jersey, one must first demonstrate “justifiable need.” To many people’s surprise, one can only show “justifiable need” in one of two ways: a specific threat against the person, or a significant enough history to demonstrate that need. In addition, one must show that carrying a firearm is the only way to prevent harm from the attack. Once local law enforcement signs off on the permit, an applicant still needs approval from the New Jersey Superior Court. And, as Mr. Drake found out, even if the local law enforcement authorities grant the permit, the New Jersey State Police is still likely to appeal.

John Drake, Gregory Gallaher, Lenny Salerno, and Finley Fenton, along with the Second Amendment Foundation and the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs, filed suit challenging the essential ban on carrying in New Jersey. John Drake, who operates a business restocking and servicing ATM machines, necessarily carries large amounts of cash on him and desired to carry a firearm for protection. After initially being approved by the local law enforcement agency, the New Jersey State Police appealed and the Superior Court reversed the LEO’s approval. The current lawsuit was then filed and the denial was eventually upheld by the Third Circuit. Petitioners then appealed to the Supreme Court, where the case currently sits, awaiting its fate.


New post on Prince Law Offices, P.C.

A major influence in New Jersey is that the NJSP and other Police Agencies bellieve only they as LEOs have the authority and right to carry a firearm. They are so indoctrinated that any Citizen that owns a firearm is suspect.

The other angle on this is that if the ATM Technician needs protection, the NJSP believe he should hire an off duty Police Officer. Some towns have local laws specifying that you must hire an On Duty Police Officer, using their Office of Outside Employment or such thing. What a small business owner can do as part of his/ her business costs, now shoots through the roof. Many of these towns charge hundreds of dollars PER HOUR for services.

Max_Tab 03-24-2014 10:59

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Originally Posted by FlagDayNCO (Post 546008)
A major influence in New Jersey is that the NJSP and other Police Agencies bellieve only they as LEOs have the authority and right to carry a firearm. They are so indoctrinated that any Citizen that owns a firearm is suspect.

The other angle on this is that if the ATM Technician needs protection, the NJSP believe he should hire an off duty Police Officer. Some towns have local laws specifying that you must hire an On Duty Police Officer, using their Office of Outside Employment or such thing. What a small business owner can do as part of his/ her business costs, now shoots through the roof. Many of these towns charge hundreds of dollars PER HOUR for services.

Shocking, NJ has a racket going. Take away citizens rights, so LE can make more money. Ridiculous

akv 03-24-2014 14:22

Hawaii Now a 'Shall-Issue' State
 
Quote:

MARCH 21, 2014 4:34 PM

Hawaii Now a 'Shall-Issue' State
By Charles C. W. Cooke
Hawaii, a state that has long been disgraced by some of the strictest gun-control laws in the country, now has “shall-issue” concealed-carry — for now, at least. Per Guns.com:

In a decision released Thursday by the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, in the case of Baker v. Kealoha, the court followed the lead of the recent Peruta case to declare Hawaii’s restrictions on firearms carry unconstitutional under the Second Amendment.

The case was heard by the same trio of judges who sat on the earlier Peruta and Richards cases in California, which challenged the state’s restrictive ‘may issue’ policies that required concealed carry permit applicants to show “good cause” to warrant a permit. The judges, Diarmuid O’Scannlain, Sidney Thomas and Consuelo Callahan, heard Baker in December 2013 and issued their findings Thursday.

“In Peruta, we concluded that the Second Amendment provides a responsible, law-abiding citizen with the right to carry an operable handgun outside the home for the purpose of self-defense,” wrote O’Scannlain for the two-judge majority decision in a memorandum.

“In light of our holding in Peruta, the district court made an error of law when it concluded that the Hawaii statutes did not implicate protected Second Amendment activity.”

If you’re wondering how big a deal this is for Hawaiians, note how infrequently permits were granted:

Hawaii has some of the strictest concealed carry laws in the country. In 2012, just four private citizens applied for a concealed carry license in the city and county of Honolulu, while one applied in Maui County, and all five were denied at the discretion of the respective county police chief.

Nevertheless, there is likely a rough road ahead:

“Hawaii’s Attorney General and law enforcement leaders will oppose shall issue as will our current liberal Legislature,” Dr. Max Cooper, president of the Hawaii Rifle Association told Guns.com Friday. “It is time for more people to apply for permits and another hearing on a shall issue bill in the 2015 Hawaii Legislature.”

“There is still politics in this, so people need to be pushing their issuing authorities to adopt the Peruta decision and start issuing permits and people should go on down and apply,” explained Michel.

The rest here.
http://http://www.guns.com/2014/03/21/aloha-federal-court-strikes-hawaiis-may-issue-practice-unconstitutional/

Stobey 03-24-2014 20:19

Common Core's version of the 2nd Amendment
 
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It looks as if this is Common Core's version of the 2nd Amendment. If this is their version of the 2nd, I'd hate to see what their 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 10th, 14th and 16th look like.

The Reaper 03-24-2014 20:42

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004 (Post 546121)
Yep, the gun blog The Truth About Guns finds these every once in awhile, of elementary school textbooks that have some twisted version of the Second Amendment. There was one, for example, that listed the amendments in more plain English for the students to understand. So the Second Amendment was listed something like, "You have the right to keep and bear arms in a militia."

You certainly do.

What is the original definition of a militia?

TR


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