"Get Tough" and "Kill Or Get Killed". Waiting for the DVD format of McCann's stuff to be released.

Have any of you seen the draft version of the "new" PT FM that the Physical Fitness School put out a few years ago (before they took it off their website)? They changed the focus of PT to 'functional fitness', incorporating exercises that mimiced tasks soldiers could expect to perform in combat, and other exercises that strengthened supporting and stabilizing muscles. Its more equipment intensive than the current push-up/sit-up/run concept, but appears to be more directed towards what an infantryman would need.

Do you do this with thin protective gear to avoid osteitis, Sir?

Thank you.

I think that is a hell of a point, because I find if I run at night I will not push myself as hard for fear of triping on something that I didn't see. Now if I'm running after someone thats a different story I go all out, but for general conditioning I know that I hold back while running in no light.

No

Ditto.

Protective gear would defeat the purpose. I do wear shin and forearm protection when in class or competition as it adds another level of comfort for the situation as well as the ability to take a harder hit. Besides, if I have to do this on the street I won't be able to say, "wait, I need to get my pads on."

Understood, though let me clarify that I only meant a very light level of protection, and not for easing the pain - but to avoid osteitis. I'm no wuss!!! ;)

It's what I've been told makes a big difference, but perhaps that injury is more related to some other factor. Thanks anyhow.

I googled osteitis and don't see the connection, maybe I'm missing something. Got a layman definition for that? I don't see how hitting my shins could effect my pelvic area outside of making the boys tingle a little bit.

Ok, received definition in PM. Inflamation of any bone. That being the case. . .

I've read that hard exercise, impacts and stuff like that creates small fractures of the cells in the bones and when they heal they are stronger due to increased mass or something like that. (please correct me if I'm wrong). That being the case, conditioning should be making the bones stronger, if done properly and giving the body proper time to heal.

Since the first of the year I've been seeing a strength trainer so I can bench press more, etc.

He just suggested anabolic steroids and talked about injections vs pills.

Kinda surprised me because he didn't seem to be that hard core.

:eek:

FrontSight

That's not a trainer that's a drug pusher. You need to dump that idiot now!!!

Jack Moroney

concur... what an ass! Dump the druggie and find a new training partner. There is absolutely no reason for you to be taking steroids.

Anybody in her AO who can assist this man to the door?

Seriously FS create fast distance and time from this piece of shit.

I concur.

Muscles can be built with combination of correct diet timed with your workouts.
If your trainer isn't on top of this, that's a second reason to dump his ass.

Agreed, but I hope this doesn't mean you're going to forego the opportunity to photoshop us some pix of FS raging on steroids. :munchin

http://www.mikemahler.com/index.html

FS, not only does this guy not do steriods, He's a vegan!

Like they said, anybody that would talk about steriods is an idiot. Get away from him.

Concur.

Except at the very highest performance levels, steroids are a poor substitute for good workout techniques. They are especially stupid for females.

This guy was obviously incompetent in his strength conditioning skills, and wanted you to be impressed by quick results using his method, or he just wanted to be your dealer.

Shun him.

Or maybe he realized that you really wanted to be an XY, and was going to start you on your way by passing you the XY hormones.

TR

:eek: holy crap! :eek:

This guy is a schmuck. You know one of the major reasons that women end up taking roids FS? Besides pro/olympic athletes, Drug dealers try to take advantage of women who experienced severe mental trauma. From an article I just read on female steroid uses. Nothing like having a hairy chested, deep voiced, acne riddled, balding female with male facial and body symmetry characteristics. But hey, after taking the juice... you might be as strong as a below average/nonathletic male. Yep, its worth the risks and side effects. :rolleyes:
Spend the money on lessons with the Team Sergeant instead of the drugs.

Yeah, he's an animal from everything I've heard. Very impressive.

Looks like your secret is out, FS. :p

While I rarely immediately reject anything out-of-hand (I did surf a website he suggested for 30 min.), odds are slim-to-none that I would decide to take something like that. I tried a cigarette at age 11 and decided that adults were dumb.

However, Mr. Harsey suggested that my proclivity for using multisyllabic words in my posts would morph to just grunting every now and then. Some might appreciate that :p .

Smokin Joe, changing locations will make it less likely I'll be able to continue using this trainer anyway. (but separately from that I got the message.)

Sacamuelas... OK.

TR, I actually prefer being a femme type. We get to adorn ourselves with jewelry, makeup and clothes, change our hair style and color at whim, be more emotional and have more fun. You men are just supposed to stand there and look tough.

The only unfair thing is that XYs are stronger. You are more free because of that.

FrontSight

Maybe - But I've never seen an XY pick up the phone and have six XXs show up to help them move either. :lifter

I know plenty of XYs that are no more free than a fish in an aquarium; sure, they can swim around and explore their tank, maybe bully some of the weaker fish, but there are invisible walls stopping them from going farther, and they depend on someone else to provide their O2, feed them, clean their tank, and set their schedule. Freedom doesn't come from being physically strong--it mostly springs from mindset, self-confidence and determination.

That, and not having to sit down to pee.

Well said - on all counts. :)

Maybe it's your technique :D

Agree. (Yes, don't pass out, I'm actually agreeing with you, because you included the word 'mostly'. ) Because mostly, people choose to be humane to each other. Then, "mindset, self-confidence and determination" can take primacy in defining how free you are.

The problem is when "mostly" doesn't cut it.

A related problem then is because occasionally "mostly" doesn't cut it, someone whom others would assume to be weaker will significantly restrict all their life activities, i.e., not go out alone at night to even the grocery store, or not go biking alone during the day.

Is that good SA or is that living in a cage. Who is less free then.

FrontSight

PS: That is the only disadvantage I will cede re: that area of the anatomy. :)

At the end of the day, those femme parts have gifted us with multiple organizational advantages over XY parts. :p

FrontSight

Aren't you forgetting something else? Perhaps you are answering the question at the wrong time of the month . . .

Doesn't phase me in the least...

Your mileage may vary. :)

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OK, so conclusion is steroids aren't worth it.

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re: Mike Mahler's website from NDD's reply

http://www.mikemahler.com/index.html

had a picture (can't find it now) of him on an Indoboard. Went to that website.

http://www.indoboard.com/


Had never heard of a balance trainer, but what a cool invention!

After so many years of ballet I think I have decent balance, but that would be a fun thing to do while on con calls without sounding too out-of-breath.

FrontSight

Ah yes, the social contract. It is not unanimous by any means.

One must train body and mind, neither is good without the other.

In OODA terms, it is best, in my opinion, to deal with the Big "O" early on. Decide your Orientation to be hit "that" when "this" is observed. Have 1-2 good techniques ready to go. Takes most of the decision making out and allows you to get inside the adversary's loop very quickly. Much easier to turn it off than turn it on.

If you do hit - hit don't grab. And keep hitting. There are no neutral corners and no 10 counts.

SA will tell when it is more likely to occur than not. Time/place/people. If you go to the 5th Ward after 22:00, figure very likely. Yellow is not hard to maintain and Yellow to Orange is an easy step. Much easier than Green to Red or even Green to Orange. Yellow is also good for avoiding falls and traffic accidents.

Being a little crazy never hurt either.

All is good in your post here NDD but I wanted to ask folks about this one statement, do you know (not NDD) why this is important?

It doesn't stop a determined man one bit. It doesn't hurt (much), imobilize, kill or anything else of consequence. If anything, it keeps the bad guy close while allowing a moment to act - for him. Personally, I'd see it as hesitation on the holder's part and be further encouraged. You don't control the other person, i.e. neither the fight.

Is that correct, Sir?

Depends on what you grab.

TR

Yes, Sir. I interpreted NDD and Harsey's message to mean somebody pretty unfamiliar with fighting. I can see multiple techniques made possible or more efficient because of grabbing, e.g. the head, or take take downs.

Thanks for that post.

Some of you may want to check out www.Crossfit.com. It's a website/gym/community that seems to have found favor among military/le types.

They work hard on finding the right combination of functional speed/strength/power/endurance/balance/agility. They do O-lifts and other complex movements, rather than just trying to add more pounds to your one-rep bench max. Lots of rope climbing and work with gymnast rings, as well.

It also introduced me to 'endurance lifting' that will leave you smoked. The Fight Gone Bad workout has you doing one minute of 75 lb deadlift high pulls, followed immediately by a 20" box jump for a minuted, followed by a minute of 75lb push presses (standing military press, with a slight squat to get the bar moving if needed), followed by a minute on a Concept 2 rower and a minute squating/throwing a 20 lb medicine ball at a mark draw 8 feet high. Rest for a minute, then repeat cycle 2 or 4 more times.

Another good one a 400 meter run, then 21 Kettebell or dumbell swings then 12 pullups. Repeat 2 more times. (A lot of the exercises are better suited to a garage gym where you can drop the weight and take off on a run, rather than a commercial facility)

In my humble view, it's far and away better conditioning that following a bodybuilding routine, which is what I see most people doing at the gym.


My AIT DSs switched my class to the new PT program toward the end of my course in March '04. More "core strength' (abs and obliques) than the old PT program. One curious thing is that you had to get up out of the seated position without using your hands. It also had shuttle runs. (The PT program at Basic had ZERO speed work. ) Seems to me the ability to run/sprint for short distances is important. We were also supposed to do pull-ups, but we didn't have any pull up bars. The DSs didn't like it because there were fewer pushups, and they worried our PT scores would go down. We graduated before I could judge the efficacy of the program.

Are you sure that's what core strength means?

Perhaps he's referring to it in the Pilates sense of the word. Read about some NFL linemen giving up weightlifting and taking up Pilates instead.

Nice website. The O-lift isn't in one of their video exercises. They had references to O-lift trainers. What is an O-lift?

FrontSight

Olympic.

That was my meaning. "Core strength" has become a buzz word and now a cliche. Some innovative trainers realized a while back that standard weight lifting routines (notice I didn't say strength training) don't make you a better athlete. One name that comes to mind is Mark Verstegen, who takes college athletes and preps them for pro combines. His philosophy is train movements, not muscle groups, and he concentrates on mid-body parts.

Now every aerobic instructor seems to have a DVD promoting core strength, which usually means sit-ups on an exercise ball.

Witness http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...core%20fitness

i have been running 4 miles a day and then doing sprints trying to bring my recovery time down. Talked to my recruiter today and he gave me an assignment to see if i could be at 6 miles by next week. I kinda get the feeling there will be puke on the track tonight.