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craigepo 06-01-2011 16:50

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Originally Posted by LibraryLady (Post 396994)

Just an FYI, don't use salted butter for baking, recipes are generally designed for butter without salt. The added salt in the butter can affect the rising properties of what you're making.

LL

Really?

I have been trying to get these yeast rolls figured out, and have had some yeast problems. I hadn't even considered salt in the butter.

Blitzzz (RIP) 06-01-2011 19:45

Butter...?
 
I use any butter in the store. Salted, and I cook with Ghee. I don't know what it feels like to get sick from food. I've always challenged myself with marginally bad food stuff and now have a cast iron gut...of course the wife thinks I'm daft.
"what doesn't kill us, only makes us stronger"

Just my ever devaluing 2 cents...Dave

Special note: My Brain cancer that was to kill me 4 years ago ...hasn't.
7+ years out of a 7 to 32 month prognosis and still ticking...

mark46th 06-02-2011 08:26

"I don't know what it feels like to get sick from food..." Blitzz

After 2 years in Southeast Asia, I had to go to Mexico to get regular...

Blitzzz (RIP) 06-02-2011 09:41

Asia..?
 
Been there and eat that too... Didn't say I liked it all, just never get sick from any of it..even Balut..Ate two once...cause the locals were watching. You guys know how that goes, building rapport.
Even though there was an urge to vomit, not sick, just smell....

wet dog 06-02-2011 10:09

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Originally Posted by mark46th (Post 397111)
After 2 years in Southeast Asia, I had to go to Mexico to get regular...

Peppers make me burp!

Gotta love the South Eastern food, hotter the better, made any living critter in your gut, turn over and die. South American slow roasted carnitas, god, so good.

My single favorite cuisine is still Ethiopian/African.

mark46th 06-02-2011 12:26

Blitzz- That's what I mean- I ate everything, I had so many protozans and bacteria in my digestive tract, it was thrown off when I returned to the states and clean food preparation. Fortunately, I live close to Mexico so I could go down there for street food and my monthly E. coli injection....

Team Sergeant 06-02-2011 16:32

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Originally Posted by craigepo (Post 396998)
Really?

I have been trying to get these yeast rolls figured out, and have had some yeast problems. I hadn't even considered salt in the butter.

I doubt the salt in your butter is causing the problem. Send me your recipe and I will have P&B "Chef" take a look.....;)

PSM 06-02-2011 17:14

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 397273)
I doubt the salt in your butter is causing the problem. Send me your recipe and I will have P&B "Chef" take a look.....;)

Heck, just post it. We'll figure out what it kneads. ;)

Pat

BigJimCalhoun 06-02-2011 18:40

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Originally Posted by wet dog (Post 396602)
Too funny.

A thought just occured to me, 2/3 of the worlds population drinks raw milk. I read recently, that in CA, (and several others states), it is illegal to sell raw milk to your neighbors, in fact, it is illegal to sell farm fresh eggs, but you can give them away, the milk also.

How sad, looking for an explanation, anyone care to enlighted me.

I understand that pastuerization made it possible to transport milk further distances for larger population bases to offer milk, but why make it illegal?

Think of it. Raw milk only forces one to have land, raise livestock, perhaps chickens, raise a hog, vegatable garden. One might attempt making butter, cheese and canning produce. Some might even call that independance.

I believe it is legal in CA to sell raw milk. It is not legal in Colorado and maybe 40 other states. My family has to own part of a cow to get our raw milk.

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Originally Posted by wet dog (Post 396610)
Drinking raw milk can only lead to independance.

yup - that is a part of it. He who controls the food, controls the people. I also look at where the money is coming from. The same people who want to take guns away want to take away raw milk.

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Originally Posted by longrange1947 (Post 396616)
Pasturization, I believe ended bovine TB spread as well as other milk borne diseases. TB of the eyeball is ugly. Homogenization, I believe made it easier to ship all over, as it stopped seperation of butter fat from the skim.

Diseases still occur in pasteurized dairy. As big dairy advertises in the mass media, these stories don't often get published with the same zeal as those awful home-schooling conservatives and their raw milk. Cows that are owned by smaller farms and graze in fields live longer and healthier lives than those cows that eat grain and never leave the stall.:)
http://www.californiarawmilk.org/sit...dOutbreaks.pdf


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Originally Posted by mark46th (Post 396621)
R.L.- Over the last 20 years, there have been breakouts of Listeria here in So Cal. The most common sources for Listeria are raw dairy products. Listeria is fatal about 20% of the time. It is especially hard on pregnant women and their babies.

Raw milk is often locally consumed and isolated. When disease breaks out in store-bought eggs or milk, the recall can over several states. Look at the cucumber issue in Europe currently.:)
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe...html?hpt=hp_t2

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Originally Posted by mugwump (Post 396702)
Land O Lakes, so I can show future generations of boys the "cut the knees out and put them behind the flapped package" trick. Bewbies.

ETA: Link

that has been around since the 70s.:D

longrange1947 06-03-2011 08:34

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Originally Posted by BigJimCalhoun (Post 397298)
.............................
that has been around since the 70s.:D

Actually before that. :D:D

Badger52 06-06-2011 14:17

Besides 2A issues, I'm astounded to learn my current state ("America's Dairyland") bans these unprocessed products from being sold or "advertised" as such. Wet Dog is right. It's the road to independence; during the last hysterical egg recall bride & I celebrated with omelettes. I wonder if the local Egg Task Force will be fast-roping down into my yard...

Better days might be coming. Besides the bill to repeal concealed-carry statutes is one in the spirit of "Keep A Family Cow" to allow local producers to "go raw" under many circumstances. I understand there's more than one person who makes a phenomenal feta, labelled as cat food, sold at $15/lb and they sell out quickly.

Moo.

219seminole 06-06-2011 18:13

I think I am still dying from the alar treated apples I ate in the 1990s.

LibraryLady 06-07-2011 11:12

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Originally Posted by craigepo (Post 396998)
Really?

I have been trying to get these yeast rolls figured out, and have had some yeast problems. I hadn't even considered salt in the butter.

Agree with TS - salt in the butter prolly not a consideration in yeast rolls. (he's a certified expert, I'm just a lifelong mauler of yeast bearing products)

Depends on what your issue is - what's wrong with your yeast?

Some probable factors - age of yeast, relative humidity/temp of the day, temp of water, food for the yeast...

LL

Gypsy 06-08-2011 17:39

Kerry Gold Irish Butter. OMG.

But it's expensive so I use Land o' Lakes...mostly the whipped variety.

Gypsy 06-08-2011 17:41

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Originally Posted by x SF med (Post 396633)
My doctor made me switch to Smart Balance... I still use butter for baking and sauteeing.

Mine too. Then I read the label, said screw it and use butter....very sparingly. For Sauteeing I use either Canola or Olive Oil, and depending on the recipe a smidge of butter.

I use whipped butter on my multigrain toast.

And when it comes to baking there is NO substitute...it's BUTTER!

Team Sergeant 06-08-2011 18:32

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Originally Posted by Gypsy (Post 398451)
Kerry Gold Irish Butter. OMG.

But it's expensive so I use Land o' Lakes...mostly the whipped variety.

Whipped butter, so they "add" air to your butter and you pay more?:munchin :D

Gypsy 06-09-2011 16:43

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 398469)
Whipped butter, so they "add" air to your butter and you pay more?:munchin :D

:D No, it's less than 2.00...and less calories and fat. :lifter

BigJimCalhoun 06-11-2011 05:51

Less fat? I don't want that

I am cranking up the fat to be 40-50 percent of my diet :D

craigepo 06-11-2011 12:07

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Originally Posted by LibraryLady (Post 398179)
Agree with TS - salt in the butter prolly not a consideration in yeast rolls. (he's a certified expert, I'm just a lifelong mauler of yeast bearing products)

Depends on what your issue is - what's wrong with your yeast?

Some probable factors - age of yeast, relative humidity/temp of the day, temp of water, food for the yeast...

LL

I have now interrogated approximately 10 ladies over the age of 65. I found out that I killed my yeast, so I tried again, measuring water temperature with my meat thermometer to 100-110 degrees. Put yeast, water and sugar in separate glass container to "turn on" before mixing (turn on the yeast, not myself).

I've now learned that I have to raise the rolls twice before baking, which requires raising the dough, punching it back down, then raising it again. I will report after my next batch.

Team Sergeant 06-11-2011 18:08

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Originally Posted by craigepo (Post 398867)
I have now interrogated approximately 10 ladies over the age of 65. I found out that I killed my yeast, so I tried again, measuring water temperature with my meat thermometer to 100-110 degrees. Put yeast, water and sugar in separate glass container to "turn on" before mixing (turn on the yeast, not myself).

I've now learned that I have to raise the rolls twice before baking, which requires raising the dough, punching it back down, then raising it again. I will report after my next batch.

If you are placing yeast into the water this is called "blooming" the yeast. You can place the sugar in with the flour and salt. Yeast will all die at 140, ensure your water is room temp, or 90 degrees is best. Place your unused yeast in the fridge. Do not actually "punch" down the dough but yes knock it down and allow it to rise again. While the dough is fermenting/proofing ensure there is a tight seal over the dough with cling-wrap this will prevent a "skin" from forming on the dough.

echoes 06-12-2011 00:31

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Originally Posted by Gypsy (Post 398584)
:D No, it's less than 2.00...and less calories and fat.

I.hear.you.Gypsy.....My.cooking.for.work.is.one.th ing,but.at.home.I.use.the.same.:D:cool:

Holly

Edit to add for wet dog:

Not a cookie, but this cake is divine! It can be made in advance, and will keep refigerated for a while. This is NOT my recipe, but a Chef I know gave it to me after we made it the other day. Here it is! Enjoy!

Recipe Name: Tres Leches

Yield: 1/ 2" Hotel

Number of Portions: 25

8 oz. Butter, melted, room temp.
12 ea. Eggs separated
one-half teaspoon Baking Soda
one-half teaspoon Sea Salt
1 lb.Granulated Sugar
1 lb.AP Flour
1 teaspoon Vanilla

1 qt. Whole Milk
36 oz. Evaporated Milk
44 oz. Condensed Milk

Procedure
1. Melt butter and allow to cool to room temperature.
2. Combine flour, baking soda and salt. Mix well.
3. Whip egg whites to soft peaks and add sugar.
4. Add the egg yolks and vanilla. Mix well.
5. Add melted butter. Turn mixer off when butter is added.
6. Fold in dry ingredients in three stages. Batter should have no lumps.
7. Pour batter into an oiled 2" hotel pan.
8. Bake at 350 degrees F. for 20 minutes. Rotate pan after 10 minutes.
9. Combine the milks.
10. With a fork, poke holes into the cake and pour the milk over the cake while still warm.
11. Top with Candied Walnuts
12. (Optional----my personal addition is to pour ½ cup or so of Rum over the top while warm.)

wet dog 06-28-2011 14:25

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Originally Posted by echoes (Post 398910)
I.hear.you.Gypsy.....My.cooking.for.work.is.one.th ing,but.at.home.I.use.the.same.:D:cool:

Holly

Edit to add for wet dog:

Not a cookie, but this cake is divine! It can be made in advance, and will keep refigerated for a while. This is NOT my recipe, but a Chef I know gave it to me after we made it the other day. Here it is! Enjoy!

Recipe Name: Tres Leches

Yield: 1/ 2" Hotel

Number of Portions: 25

8 oz. Butter, melted, room temp.
12 ea. Eggs separated
one-half teaspoon Baking Soda
one-half teaspoon Sea Salt
1 lb.Granulated Sugar
1 lb.AP Flour
1 teaspoon Vanilla

1 qt. Whole Milk
36 oz. Evaporated Milk
44 oz. Condensed Milk

Procedure
1. Melt butter and allow to cool to room temperature.
2. Combine flour, baking soda and salt. Mix well.
3. Whip egg whites to soft peaks and add sugar.
4. Add the egg yolks and vanilla. Mix well.
5. Add melted butter. Turn mixer off when butter is added.
6. Fold in dry ingredients in three stages. Batter should have no lumps.
7. Pour batter into an oiled 2" hotel pan.
8. Bake at 350 degrees F. for 20 minutes. Rotate pan after 10 minutes.
9. Combine the milks.
10. With a fork, poke holes into the cake and pour the milk over the cake while still warm.
11. Top with Candied Walnuts
12. (Optional----my personal addition is to pour ½ cup or so of Rum over the top while warm.)

Thanks little sister, I think I've got the needed stuff in the pantry.

I'll give it a try tonight.

tonyz 06-28-2011 17:08

Butter
 
Kerrygold and Land O' Lakes (salted).

http://www.kerrygold.com/


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