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longrange1947 10-06-2009 20:18

Actually, if he did google SOTIC and sniper he would find a bit of info on the course and pre-reqs. And he can find that CARVER applies to snipers as well. :munchin :D

Peregrino 10-06-2009 20:33

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Originally Posted by longrange1947 (Post 287540)
If they pass the pre-reqs and the shoot in. :munchin :D

And if they don't, we get to stand around the SGM's desk looking at targets and laughing at them! It's even funnier when the Regimental CSM unloads on the SFG(A) CSMs for sending guys who don't meet pre-reqs and can't do the shoot-ins. (FAGs are easy to entertain.:p )

longrange1947 10-06-2009 20:38

And he asked for the targets again. :eek:

I realize OPTEMPO can be a detriment but dam guys, it only takes a day on the range to get back into the swing of things.

As a FAG on my side I tend to stay away from the fireworks or I may say something "inappropriate". :D

But being a kindly old gentleman, I try to refrain from unkindly remarks. :munchin

RB 10-07-2009 12:11

I thought you were kid glove kindly old dude with the young'un....

Tears? - Hell we laughed all the way through the course....Scones and GB right after he cut his finger off.....'This is Bullshit'....'Where's Chow'.

That was a quite amuzing read tho.....

kimberly 10-08-2009 13:45

CARVER
 
Criticality: How important, in a strategic context, is the target? What effect will its destruction have on other elements of the target system? Is it more important to have real-time surveillance of the target (e.g., a road junction) than its physical destruction?
Accessibility: Can an SR team reach or sense the target, keep it under surveillance for the appropriate time, and then exfiltrate after the target is struck?
Recuperability: When the target is destroyed by fire support or direct action, In the case of DA missions, can the enemy repair, replace, or bypass it quickly, minimum resources? If so, it may not be a viable target.
Vulnerability: do SR (including DA) and supporting units have the capability to destroy the target?
Effect: Beyond pure military effect are the political, economic, legal, and psychological effects of destroying the target? How would the attack affect local civilians?
Recognizability: Can the target be recognized clearly, by SR and attack forces, under the prevailing weather, light, and in its terrain? If there are critical points within the target, they also must be recognizable by the means of destruction used.
(WIKI)

And I'm a girl...:D

kimberly 10-08-2009 14:00

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Originally Posted by greenberetTFS (Post 286673)
LR,

I think you should give this kid his first free sniper training......:cool: Send him out about 1,000 yards and then let him put an apple on his head.....;)

Big Teddy :munchin

I'll go. Got an apple? If I was ever going to have an apple shot off my head, I'd want it to be by someone who knows what they're doing.

longrange1947 10-08-2009 14:05

Kimberly, thank you for your vote of confidence, but at that range it would be impossible without a laser rifle in the 1000 mw range. :D

I know, "just what you see on the shelves pal." :munchin

kimberly 10-08-2009 14:11

I apologize for posting where I don't belong. Won't happen again.

wet dog 10-08-2009 14:22

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Originally Posted by kimberly (Post 287967)
Criticality: How important, in a strategic context, is the target? What effect will its destruction have on other elements of the target system? Is it more important to have real-time surveillance of the target (e.g., a road junction) than its physical destruction?
Accessibility: Can an SR team reach or sense the target, keep it under surveillance for the appropriate time, and then exfiltrate after the target is struck?
Recuperability: When the target is destroyed by fire support or direct action, In the case of DA missions, can the enemy repair, replace, or bypass it quickly, minimum resources? If so, it may not be a viable target.
Vulnerability: do SR (including DA) and supporting units have the capability to destroy the target?
Effect: Beyond pure military effect are the political, economic, legal, and psychological effects of destroying the target? How would the attack affect local civilians?
Recognizability: Can the target be recognized clearly, by SR and attack forces, under the prevailing weather, light, and in its terrain? If there are critical points within the target, they also must be recognizable by the means of destruction used.
(WIKI)

And I'm a girl...:D

That was pretty good...

Do you remember how this thread was started? ...do all SFer's go through sniper training?,...then it morphed into "18Bs" seem the obvious choice, then for awhile we badgered one another, in fun for the most part.

Has it become more clear that SF missions seem to be strategic in nature.

I beleive this thread has exhausted itself. Shooting and target questions are covered elsewhere.

Good day,

Richard 10-08-2009 15:23

Xe-it...I felt lucky when I had 3 on the team and they had to fight over the M-21s. ;)

If everyone had been to sniper school there wouldn't have been agreement on anything! :p :D

Richard

longrange1947 10-08-2009 19:30

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Originally Posted by kimberly (Post 287980)
I apologize for posting where I don't belong. Won't happen again.

There is no need to apologize! I was kidding around about the needing a laser similar to the movie Terminator when he went into the gun store.

Besides why would I want to take a chance at hitting your pretty head? :(

At that range a 1 mile per hour wind would do me in. :D

longrange1947 10-08-2009 19:31

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Originally Posted by wet dog (Post 287982)
That was pretty good...

................. then for awhile we badgered one another, in fun for the most part.

.............................

Good day,

Heck I was having fun all the time not just most of the time!! :D

greenberetTFS 10-09-2009 14:10

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Originally Posted by wet dog (Post 287982)
That was pretty good...

Do you remember how this thread was started? ...do all SFer's go through sniper training?,...then it morphed into "18Bs" seem the obvious choice, then for awhile we badgered one another, in fun for the most part.

Has it become more clear that SF missions seem to be strategic in nature.

I beleive this thread has exhausted itself. Shooting and target questions are covered elsewhere.

Good day,

WD,

Your absolutely right this thread has bounced all over the place and what's really funny is there never was a direct answer given to that guy as either yes or no...:confused:

Big Teddy :munchin

Blitzzz (RIP) 10-09-2009 15:52

Ok..Ok....
 
....NO...!

Team Sergeant 10-09-2009 15:55

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Originally Posted by Blitzzz (Post 288255)
....NO...!

Sure, spoil it for the rest of us!!!!!!

wet dog 10-09-2009 20:26

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 288256)
Sure, spoil it for the rest of us!!!!!!

Did I ever tell you guys about the three Irishman who...?

Richard 10-10-2009 06:18

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Did I ever tell you guys about the three Irishman who...?
Didn't drink? No. :p :D

Richard

longrange1947 10-10-2009 15:19

Actually I did when I stated
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If they pass the pre-reqs and the shoot in.
in reply to kgoerz's statement. :munchin :D

longrange1947 10-10-2009 15:20

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Originally Posted by wet dog (Post 288296)
Did I ever tell you guys about the three Irishman who...?

Did they find the "Lucky Charms" and are they named Paddy?

Nope!! :p

mark46th 10-15-2009 21:58

Hey Rich- We had an M1D in our armory in Thailand. It was way cool- All tricked out with an Unertl scope on it. I used it to go boar hunting with the local village hunters. I got put in my place when one of them killed a 400 pound pig with a .30 caliber muzzle loader. One shot one kill! With a home made muzzle loader using home made black powder! They did give me one of the tusks, which I still have...I should have kept the rifle when we closed the camp...

Richard 10-16-2009 04:55

Quote:

Hey Rich- We had an M1D in our armory in Thailand. It was way cool- All tricked out with an Unertl scope on it. I used it to go boar hunting with the local village hunters. I got put in my place when one of them killed a 400 pound pig with a .30 caliber muzzle loader. One shot one kill! With a home made muzzle loader using home made black powder! They did give me one of the tusks, which I still have...I should have kept the rifle when we closed the camp...
Yep...that was what we had at Nong Takoo, too. Never saw a Model 700 or an M21 until we closed out and returned to Fort Bragg.

I found out that all our weapons had been collected and sent to our HQs (1SFG on Okinawa) and they got dumped (literally in a couple of Conexes into the Pacific) when they closed out just two months after they closed us out - always wished I coulda kept a couple of the weapons we had in our inventory.

I treated a few locals for gsw with some of those homemade weapons - including those shotgun kinda tubes they filled with metal scraps to shoot Gibbons outta the trees - made some pretty nasty wounds - Mekong/ganja and weapons don't mix very well together. ;)

Richard


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