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Reaper your math needs to get presented to someone up there in the chain. Even with lowering the standards I can't see them filling the slots. When I retired two years ago I walked into the GRP SGM'S office to say goodbye. He had a stack of retirement folders two feet high on his desk. Last year a friend who works at SFAS told me every student he recommended for release or termination was reinstated by the command. After awhile he and other instructors just passed everyone. Might not be true but very sad if it is.

For what it's worth, that company was originally A/2/11, so it never had close ties to the old boy network of the Virginia Guard.

Thank you AL for the lesson on the good-ole-boy NG system, in all honesty. I really did not know that was part of the reason. Being new to the NG I am suprised constantly by all the talk of the G-O-B system. Not to change the subject but was this a big problem, in comparison, in the RC SF groups? Just curious more than anything.


Crip

I think you could easiley fill at least Two Guard Bn's if the Companies are located in good areas, Ex NY/NJ/PA area, Houston, Dalles, Phonex, Western NC, Georga, Eastern Wa , Michigan, Minnisota/Wi. These areas have no SF unit in a reasonible drive. The deactivation of the 11th and 12th effected some of the listed areas. Some of these areas have never had SF NG or Reserve Units. I wouldn't activate a Group HQ's though I would only go for the Bn's.

I never noticed any activity that you could associate with the G-O-B network in the 12th SFG(A) or the 17th SFG(A), which were both USAR Groups. I think it was a sad day when they transfered all SF units to the NG!

I was never in the Army NG; however, I did do some time, in the Air National Guard and thought the G-O-B network was alive and well there. I also heard that it was even worse in the Army NG, from friends serving in it.

Actually they transfered individuals to the 19th and 20th. If they could find a company to except them. The units them selfs went away. There was a provisional company (Dco) in 1/20. This company reorginized about 2 years after conception as C 1/20 MAANG. Most of the individuals in that company were from A & B Co. 1/11th. The Guard did not gain any units from this deactivation that I am aware of.

They are dreaming. And about to lower the standards.

I was never on a full team, not once. Never even saw one. I imagine that many people in a Team Room would be very crowded.

I was the active duty advisor to the 12th in 82-84 and it did exist when it came to selecting folks for certain positions. I think it depends on where you were and who was calling the shots at the time.

Well hopefully I wont have as much trouble with the GOB system once I get to a team as I have had getting promoted. If so I will be seeking an AD accessions board.

Crip

There was one.

The Gabe Team.:D

TR

LOL - True that

Actually the two different teams I had were not only full most of the time (we were short one commo sgt for a while) but had an additional slot for a CAPO officer. My company in the 10th had full teams with maybe one exception that I can think of (because of over-staffing of the C-Team) and my Bn had full teams but that was a special case. The only time I was short folks was the first B-Team I had in the 10th.

I agree with TR about expanding ARNG-SF. My recommendations would be:

1. Place initial Force Structure in states that don't have it. Texas could easily sustain a Company and there was once a strong push to place Force Structure in Texas. It failed. States that have strong SF roots such as North Carolina would also be able to sustain Force Structure at (initially) the Company level.

2. Place additional force structure in States that can sustain it. California could, with proper support, expand as could Washington State.

3. Abolish Group Level ARNG Headquarters (keeping the GSC is a separate argument) and establish Direct Training Affiliations (DTAs) at the Battalion Level. For example 1st BN, 19th SFGA becomes 4th BN, 1st SFGA. That would ease transitions for soliders wanting to convert from Active duty to Guard (and vice versa). It would also give ARNG-SF soliders at the ODA level more training opportunities and exposure to current TTP's then they presently have. The cross-pollination between 1st SFGA and A-1-19th SFGA proves that this viable.

4. By making force structure changes objectively and without regards to politics the equivalent of two Battalions of ARNG SF soldiers could be sustained. All of this has been discussed publicly and in print.

5. Speaking from experience as a A-1-12th SFGA soldier there were huge problems with Army Reserve SF that I will not go into on this forum. That is not to say that resurrecting Army Reserve SF should not be considered.

Closest we came was 11...and worked hard to keep it that way (to avoid being sent a less than stellar Warrant). There are plenty of good Warrants, just not the one they tried to force on us.

There's a big difference between an 11 man team and an 8 man team.

Better eight men you can trust, than 11 with three needing full-time child care.

TR