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Utah Bob 06-06-2013 21:32

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 509827)
Lying has been "criminalized" for a long time already, just lie to a law enforcement officer.

You're not going to find a DA in the country that will prosecute any of the sections of the SVA except for maybe the Medal of Honor. So this signing of the new SVA is just about useless, (just like the fella that signed it).

It's a moot point, you can lie and pretend to be anyone you want to be except a law enforcement officer......

Trust me the only reason the FBI went after William "Bill" Hillar was because he scammed the FBI..... It had nothing to do with the SVA.

In most cases, DAs will only prosecute if a significant amount of publicity results and they begin to look bad in the public's eye. Anything that may affect their re-election campaigns will light a fire under there ass. It's important to ferret these jackasses out and get the press on them.

Sohei 06-06-2013 21:53

Sadly enough, this is one of those laws that are going to require the public to pursue to the point that investigations and prosecutions occurr for the violations. This is a law that is Veteran driven and is usually pursued by Veterans.

With that said, there are many patriotic Americans that are offended by those who pose and often are the reporters of those guilty of violating the SVA.

I have conducted one SVA investigation. It involved a non-veteran claiming service along with a claim of having been awarded the Medal of Honor. It was referred to me and co-investigated by the FBI -SRA who was a good friend of mine. He referred it to me because I was a Veteran and he felt I would want to be involved. It was the only one I have been involved with. I know there are more out there, but there isn't enough light on it as a crime, IMO. This site does a fantastic job at keeping the issue at the fore-front. Now, we have to make sure the claims are investigated and prosecuted. It's incumbent upon us to push the issue.

MSRlaw 06-07-2013 07:21

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Originally Posted by The Sheepdog (Post 509995)
Sadly enough, this is one of those laws that are going to require the public to pursue to the point that investigations and prosecutions occurr for the violations. This is a law that is Veteran driven and is usually pursued by Veterans.

With that said, there are many patriotic Americans that are offended by those who pose and often are the reporters of those guilty of violating the SVA.

I have conducted one SVA investigation. It involved a non-veteran claiming service along with a claim of having been awarded the Medal of Honor. It was referred to me and co-investigated by the FBI -SRA who was a good friend of mine. He referred it to me because I was a Veteran and he felt I would want to be involved. It was the only one I have been involved with. I know there are more out there, but there isn't enough light on it as a crime, IMO. This site does a fantastic job at keeping the issue at the fore-front. Now, we have to make sure the claims are investigated and prosecuted. It's incumbent upon us to push the issue.

I have a lot of contacts who are various state and federal prosecutors. If you find a case of SVA, please feel free to PM any info and I can send it to somebody hungry for a conviction.

I also wonder if, through the SVA, there can be a civil cause of action...I mean since the SVA deals with illegally obtained "tangible benefits" then surely there's a corollary action in civil court to retain funds through retribution if the criminal judge short-changes the amount "taken." Presumably that restitution money would go to...who? The specific units the decoy chose to target, the military branch at large? Certainly the local prosecutor's office has no right to that money and it should go to the "victim."


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