Sorry here is the actual phrase: We train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't allow them to write "fuck" on their airplanes because it's obscene!:D

And it'll be going beyond the team rooms...

Richard

WARNING: NSFW Graphic Imagery

Congresswoman Speier Alerts Marines To 'F'N Wook' Facebook Page, Sends Letter Urging Action

http://speier.house.gov/images/Corre...es8may2013.pdf

If half of what she says in those FB posts is true, then she has every right to be pissed.

Sure it is all just harmless fun, until the pics and comments posted are about your wife, sister, daughter, mother.

No I am not being a typical woman who is easily offended. I actually am the one who gets talked to quite often for making men blush. With that being said, there is a huge difference between a girlie pic in someone's locker, and what is being discribed in this letter.

I must be missing something.

If there is a civilian web site with people in the Marine uniform (not known to be Marines), and offensive captions, unless they are Marines, how is that the Commandant's problem, and is he going to be able to take any action (without violating their free speech rights) if they are?

Can the records of a civilian website be seized and user IDs revealed for possible prosecution because a Representative is unhappy?

Wow. Obviously, this is some juvenile and pathetic humor, but are we really going to UCMJ people for it?

But we have to tolerate pics of two guys in uniform swapping spit in public, and like it?

If something outrageous is posted on PS.com site and it offends someone, are we going to be investigated for it?

Slippery slope.

TR

Isn't Congresswomen Speir the one who bribed Hicks yesterday in an open hearing asking him what assignment he prefers? In other words, shut up and we will help you.

Nah. Those images are only degrading to real men.

Well that certainly didn't take long for the" boys will be boys " to come out.

Are they entitled to free speech, sure they are. It just proves that being stupid isn't against the law, but it doesn't make it right. And every time we say boys will be boys, we condone the behavior.

What would you say if one of those women was a subordinate?

If you can't see that the DoD has a very big problem with sexual assault right now, nothing anyone says to is going to change that fact. And the use of websites such as this totally unprofessional, and promotes a work environment that goes against good morale and discipline. It is shit like that that has caused the problems we are experiencing right now. But that is ok, boys will be boys, no harm, no foul. That is until the next asshole thinks that it is ok to sexually assault another member in uniform.

I expected more out of members of this website than "boys will be boys".

Boys will be boys...Every unit I served in prior to the MFO was male only. Boys were boys and the trash talk and jokes ran the gamut. The modern day Army/AF/USMC/Navy/USCG is way different. Guys that have been in Infantry units, SF, etc. haven't had to deal with the PC police like the coed units have. Has the behavior been ignored and pushed aside in the past for all male units? Yes. Is that going to continue? Probably not.

BTW, the first female medic I met in the MFO was a Sergeant and I was as well. First thing she said to me was that her "cock" was bigger than mine and proceeded to show me her 12 inch long Peacock tattoo at one of the bars on base. She used to hang out at some of the same bars at Bragg that I did it turned out!

My wife is an artist...she did a nude pen and ink drawing for me and sent it to me while I was in the Sinai. I kept it in my room, but had to put it away any time there was an inspection of my billet. I lived in a room by myself at the time. This was in the 87-88 time frame.

BTW..."sexual assault", in any form is wrong...I don't condone it in any way shape or form.

Has intellectual consistency gone entirely out of fashion?
 

How does the position you stake out in this thread square with your previous posts bemoaning the decline of morals in America. Is it your position that different groups of Americans should be held to different standards of moral conduct?

Also, given your frequent references to the Constitution and the original intent of the framers, why shouldn't a member of the House Armed Services Committee, especially one who sits on subcommittees tasked with oversight and investigations, and readiness take an interest in this topic?

Finally, what primary sources and/or secondary works do you have in mind when you argue that "censer[ing] people opinion" because their opinion was unpopular was one of the "first steps" towards the rise of Nazi Germany in the 1930s? I ask because I follow some guy named Richard J. Evans on Twitter and--based on your say so--I will gladly send him a snarky comment (totaling no more than 140 characters) that he doesn't know what he's been doing the last forty years or so. (Geoff Eley and Ian Kershaw and Peter Fritzsche and Peter Longerich and David Crew apparently don't Tweet. #OMFG! No worries. I'll send those Luddites some angry letters via post.)

Or perhaps this illustrates why it never was a good idea to allow women in the military at all? :munchin

"Hagel: Troops' workplaces will be checked for 'degrading' images of women"

So...if I printed out a copy of afchic's avatar picture and put it up in my DoD office, it would have to be removed under these rules. Just an observation.
I really don't see how that will curb sexual assaults.

That's no daisy.