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ddoering 04-03-2013 18:23

"served 22 years of a 75 year sentence"

Sounds like she CLEPed the rest. Too bad 75 doesn't really mean 75 because dead certainly meant dead.......

PRB 04-03-2013 18:24

I see Richards point...she did the crime, she did the time so off she goes.
The real issue tho is not only is she working there, she is celebrated for her 'against the man' activity....her total involvement in the militant sector of the progressive movement.....
There are lots of excons capable of teaching the incarceration/parole system but they sought her out.
Like her other famous cause celebe friends Ayers/Dohrn they are a reflection of what is honored at our Universities....that is the point.

Sigaba 04-03-2013 18:24

Is it intellectually consistent to argue that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights should be observed both in letter and in spirit and then to take an a la carte approach when events unfold differently than one would prefer?

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Originally Posted by SF18C (Post 499161)
I wonder how the other people in the running for that job, that didn't kill anyone, feel about Boudin's selection?

FWIW, Columbia's School of Social Work is hiring. So if anyone feels that they got snubbed by Boudin's getting tapped, they can throw their CV in the ring, get hired, and then voice their umbrage at faculty mixers for years to come.

The Reaper 04-03-2013 18:27

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 499171)
Is it intellectually consistent to argue that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights should be observed both in letter and in spirit and then to take an a la carte approach when events unfold differently than one would prefer?

FWIW, Columbia's School of Social Work is hiring. So if anyone feels that they got snubbed by Boudin's getting tapped, they can throw their CV in the ring, get hired, and then voice their umbrage at faculty mixers for years to come.

How many kills do you have to have on your resume to get hired there?

Can't wait to see what cushy job they have waiting for Mumia when he gets out. Of course, he was only convicted of one murder, so he might have to work his way up.

TR

mojaveman 04-03-2013 18:28

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I wonder how the other people in the running for that job, that didn't kill anyone, feel about Boudin's selection?
I agree 100%. In post 9/11 America she wouldn't be able get a job anywhere else with a background like that. She and her cohorts should have stayed behind bars for the rest of their lives.

sinjefe 04-03-2013 18:35

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 499171)
Is it intellectually consistent to argue that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights should be observed both in letter and in spirit and then to take an a la carte approach when events unfold differently than one would prefer?

FWIW, Columbia's School of Social Work is hiring. So if anyone feels that they got snubbed by Boudin's getting tapped, they can throw their CV in the ring, get hired, and then voice their umbrage at faculty mixers for years to come.

The constitution and the bill of rights restrains government. Doesn't mean I have to forgive her, nor does it mean that I can't condemn the university for what I believe to be poor judgement at best and at worst giving the middle finger to traditional Americans.

SF18C 04-03-2013 18:35

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 499171)
Is it intellectually consistent to argue that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights should be observed both in letter and in spirit and then to take an a la carte approach when events unfold differently than one would prefer?

FWIW, Columbia's School of Social Work is hiring. So if anyone feels that they got snubbed by Boudin's getting tapped, they can throw their CV in the ring, get hired, and then voice their umbrage at faculty mixers for years to come.

Hey Sig, would you let this guy babysit your grandkids in 25 years???

http://www.fbi.gov/losangeles/press-...her-pedophiles


Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean it the RIGHT thing!!!

I guess this says more about Colombia's decision making process more than Boudin having repaying her debt to society.!

Streck-Fu 04-03-2013 18:46

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 499171)
FWIW, Columbia's School of Social Work is hiring. So if anyone feels that they got snubbed by Boudin's getting tapped, they can throw their CV in the ring, get hired, and then voice their umbrage at faculty mixers for years to come.

I don't have enough confirmed innocent deaths to qualify.....

VVVV 04-03-2013 19:19

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Originally Posted by mojaveman (Post 499173)
I agree 100%. In post 9/11 America she wouldn't be able get a job anywhere else with a background like that. She can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned.

Then how do you explain that she was employed by St Lukes Roosevelt Hospital for the 10 since she was paroled in 2003. She also serves on the Board of Directors of ICARE.

http://www.nyicare.org/director.htm

Richard 04-03-2013 19:48

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Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 499139)
She is part of a gene pool that should have been eradicated, not educating Americas future.

Ah - a return to the good ol' days of "Eugenics"...

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Originally Posted by sinjefe (Post 499145)
Just because our criminal justice system let us down by not putting her in prison for life or giving her the death penalty doesn't mean she deserves life as normal or forgiveness. From reading up on her, she doesn't seem too sorry. F--- her. Sympathy for her is misguided. The victims families deserve it.

"Let us down" how? Because you don't agree with what it did IAW the existing laws? Hunh. I suspect her life is anything but "normal" - and I don't see anybody advocating "forgiveness" or "sympathy" for her in here.

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 499160)
So any inmate who completed their sentence and who has the appropriate degree is qualified to be a professor?

That decision remains, for the time being, up to the university - not us, the NYPost, etc.

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Originally Posted by SF18C (Post 499161)
I wonder how the other people in the running for that job, that didn't kill anyone, feel about Boudin's selection?

And she killed somebody? :confused: From what I read, she was involved in a crime in which some of her cohorts killed somebody.

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Originally Posted by Streck-Fu (Post 499178)
I don't have enough confirmed innocent deaths to qualify...

Ah - snark. Misleading, too. The university may be a long shot but that would make you a "shoe in" with the MSM, DNC, etc. Good luck.

Richard :munchin

MR2 04-03-2013 20:21

My issue is not with with the felon who served her time, but rather with the so-called institution of higher learning that hired her.

Sigaba 04-03-2013 20:25

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Originally Posted by sinjefe (Post 499175)
The constitution and the bill of rights restrains government. Doesn't mean I have to forgive her, nor does it mean that I can't condemn the university for what I believe to be poor judgement at best and at worst giving the middle finger to traditional Americans.

IMO, as Columbia is a private institution, this matter is an issue for its stakeholders to handle.

I also think arguments centering around metaphorical slaps in the face are increasingly problematic and of decreasing effectiveness, especially when deployed by political conservatives.

In any case, the following contact information may be useful.
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Office of the President
202 Low Library
535 West 116th Street, Mail Code 4309
New York, NY 10027

General Inquiries or to Contact the President
Phone: (212) 854-9970
Fax: (212) 854-9973
Email: officeofthepresident@columbia.edu

Speaking Requests (must be submitted in writing)
Susan Glancy, Chief of Staff
Email: skg56@columbia.edu

Media Inquiries
Office of Communications and Public Affairs
Phone: (212) 854-5573
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Originally Posted by SF18C (Post 499176)
Hey Sig, would you let this guy babysit your grandkids in 25 years???

http://www.fbi.gov/losangeles/press-...her-pedophiles


Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean it the RIGHT thing!!!

I guess this says more about Colombia's decision making process more than Boudin having repaying her debt to society.!

IMO, your hypothetical is not applicable to this situation. Ms. Boudin is tasked with teaching adults, not watching children. Moreover, just how would a pedophile be allowed to work with children if he's paroled?

Additional questions. Which option better serves the public interest? Ms. Boudin attempting to redeem herself for her crimes through teaching, social work, and advocacy? Or Ms. Boudin in prison because popular opinion would like to over rule the professional judgement of a district attorney, a judge, and a parole board, to say nothing of the institutions that have hired her as a consultant? (Does one really want to foster an environment in which political correctness outweighs the judgement of professionals?)

The Reaper 04-03-2013 20:51

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 499197)
Additional questions. Which option better serves the public interest? Ms. Boudin attempting to redeem herself for her crimes through teaching, social work, and advocacy? Or Ms. Boudin in prison because popular opinion would like to over rule the professional judgement of a district attorney, a judge, and a parole board, to say nothing of the institutions that have hired her as a consultant? (Does one really want to foster an environment in which political correctness outweighs the judgement of professionals?)

Redeeming herself? It looks to me more like recruiting or proselytizing the next generation of domestic terrorists.

IIRC, the judge in this case sentenced her to 75 years. A parole board released her early. How is this popular opinion overruling, except against the court's original sentence?

There are institutions that would hire Charles Manson, were he released today. That doesn't make it a good decision or one that we are required to endorse.

Columbia's leadership hired her. They can try and justify it anyway they want. IMHO, she is still a murdering witch who got out early, and it denigrates whatever academic reputation Columbia might still have retained to have employed her. Regardless, I am pretty certain that they would prefer her to any of the qualified conservative candidates who might have applied.

TR

PSM 04-03-2013 20:57

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 499197)

IMO, your hypothetical is not applicable to this situation.

Nor would your factual point be had she been executed as she should have in a, truly, just society. Or, in this case, served out her full term.

I've learned, over time, that Devil's Advocates often become Devil's Disciples.

Pat

Flagg 04-03-2013 22:20

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Originally Posted by MR2 (Post 499195)
My issue is not with with the felon who served her time, but rather with the so-called institution of higher learning that hired her.

Bullseye!

I wonder what the hiring standards and criminal history filters are for say a janitor or dishwasher at Columbia?

I have a funny feeling that convicted felons aren't eligible for employment at the lowest level, so why the inconsistency at the highest?

I'm buying that book on the infiltration of the Weather Underground.

Quite frankly,

I'm surprised the US and Europe hasn't seen the rise of Weather Underground 2.0, or Red Army Faction 2.0.

With economic volatility/strife and upsetting of the global Monopoly board impacting heavily on university students I'm stunned we haven't seen the outlier aggressive student protest movements......like the Larvae stage of Baader-Meinhoff, RAF.


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