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Remington Raidr 02-28-2012 23:42

Good luck with that . . .
 
They have a propaganda machine that is almost equal to Stalin's.
-President Truman.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...pg=5336,390146

MR2 02-29-2012 08:00

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Originally Posted by ZonieDiver (Post 437238)
Personally, budget-wise, it's time to get rid of the USMC and create a 'naval infantry' division in the US Army.

I've advocated this for a long time.

Politics and tradition are the greatest stumbling blocks. I do not see how to get away from not calling this naval infantry the USMC. One of the unique aspects of The Corps is their dedicated air assets. Resolving that with the USAF, the Key West Accord, yada-yada-yada will be tough.

I'd like to see The Corps absorbed into the Army as 4-6 Active/Reserve Regiments - keeping their integrated support elements. I'd like to see them take overall responsibility for basic training. And since the Army is into giving everyone 'cool' headgear, I'd let The Corp retain their cover. But in trade, they will have to learn Army-speak as default. As for MarSOC - they would return to their original Scouts mission with other SOC-type missions fulfilled by those normally doing said missions.

They would become additional 'Go To' regiments like the so-called 'Rapid Deployment' units are/were.

My thoughts in a nutshell. XM-202's away!

Guymullins 02-29-2012 08:43

Who are the "Go To" force in an emergency?
 
Admittedly, our playground was not the whole world as yours is, but the correct answer to ,"Who to go to in an emergency" is. Go to who is already there, the Special Forces fellows.

Utah Bob 03-02-2012 12:59

Not all National Security Emergencies are created equal.;)

Dusty 03-02-2012 13:22

Well, with the Marines, you have the possibility of mission-stopping, unwanted pregnancy that's just not normally there with the SEALs.

Dozer523 03-02-2012 17:02

I wonder if Adm McRaven will get the cover when he invites Rolling Stone to embed. (Stop talking . . . )

JJ_BPK 03-04-2012 14:31

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I just found this.. It was funny the 1st time I read it,, Then it dawned on me that it is sooo true..

The difference between Special Forces and the SEALs...

Old Dog New Trick 03-04-2012 14:47

Yup ^ that 'bout sums it up. :)

ODA CDR (RET) 03-04-2012 16:42

First JSOC then USSOCOM, I imagine the SEALs will get the call as long as this commander is in the position. Maybe some day we can get an SF Commander in both positions and get back in business. Quiet Professional is one thing but losing missions and funding to other services is another. Time to get on the PR bandwagon.

Old Dog New Trick 03-04-2012 17:56

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Originally Posted by ODA CDR (RET) (Post 438008)
First JSOC then USSOCOM, I imagine the SEALs will get the call as long as this commander is in the position. Maybe some day we can get an SF Commander in both positions and get back in business. Quiet Professional is one thing but losing missions and funding to other services is another. Time to get on the PR bandwagon.

Well, I doubt that's the whole reason, but...

We haven't had a movie since 1968, unless you call the Chuck a nut Norris comedies mainstream propaganda to boost overall funding and recruiting; and even those were 25 years ago. ;)

Right now, DevGru is on top of the hit parade and everyone thinks all SEALS are created equal. :rolleyes:

I'm in the camp that says we keep doing what we're doing without all the publicity and maintain our "QP" status as the go to guys when real work needs to be done. :D

ETA - I remember doing a great deal of HA either all by myself or in a team as few as three and no more than 15 with attachments in foreign countries. There is no other unit in the armed forces capable of doing that; and USSOCOM knows it! :)

Dusty 03-04-2012 18:18

[QUOTE=Old Dog New Trick;438015]Well, I doubt that's the whole reason, but...

I'm in the camp that says we keep doing what we're doing without all the publicity and maintain our "QP" status as the go to guys when real work needs to be done. :D

QUOTE]

:cool:

SF_BHT 03-04-2012 18:50

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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick (Post 438015)
Well, I doubt that's the whole reason, but...

We haven't had a movie since 1968, unless you call the Chuck a nut Norris comedies mainstream propaganda to boost overall funding and recruiting; and even those were 25 years ago. ;)

Right now, DevGru is on top of the hit parade and everyone thinks all SEALS are created equal. :rolleyes:

I'm in the camp that says we keep doing what we're doing without all the publicity and maintain our "QP" status as the go to guys when real work needs to be done. :D

ETA - I remember doing a great deal of HA either all by myself or in a team as few as three and no more than 15 with attachments in foreign countries. There is no other unit in the armed forces capable of doing that; and USSOCOM knows it!

Hay We had all the RAMBO movies:p

Old Dog New Trick 03-04-2012 19:01

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Originally Posted by SF_BHT (Post 438024)
Hay We had all the RAMBO movies:p

:D LMAO

Col. Troutman was a fine upstanding personality. :eek:

ZonieDiver 03-05-2012 17:13

Come on! We've had George Clooney as an SF officer... x 2!:D


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