I guess I find it curoius that a woman would accept $180 to do a lingerie dance in a guys hotel room and find it surprising that the guy turns out to be a rapist. I further wonder what the guy was doing while she was dancing...sitting there reading ... maybe with his Gideon in his hand?

She can choose whatever profession she wants, but there are risks with the one she chose. Absolutely the guy should be keelhauled and set adrift, but IMHO she's not much better than he is. What did she expect? How long has this lady (?) been in this profession (?)? Was this the first time she ran into a nut-job after doing a gig? Rape is assault, not sex. Was this lady (?) assaulted or was she just ripped off?

Ok first rape is wrong....now with that in mind I've been to both types of calls, real honest to god rapes, and thefts of goods/services. I can think of one in particular of the later, she was a working girl, not roughed up, a few tears I'd say were manufactured for our benefit if I were a betting man, no visible signs of assault, a fight, or even any defensive wounds, no signs of an adrenaline dump normally associated with a traumatic/violent event....no shaking hands or elevated breathing even though we were on scene very quickly after the alleged event. She was upset, but without the angst that I've seen in the actual rapes. Again just my experience but most times the actual rape victim will immediately question what she could have done to prevent it from happening, when that aspect is absent along with tell tale signs of a working girl I'm inclined to wonder if it was an actual rape, as opposed to the theft of goods/services… which I might add is also illegal in my ao. Not making a commentary here but I know for a fact that some working girls will scream rape if they don’t get paid…not saying by any stretch of the imagination that all rapes are that way, just that it does happen. Just my .02.

Oh yea and this guy is a moron either way and shouldn't be carrying a badge, if he makes that bad a decision in his personal life I would question his professional decisions as well.

He's absolutely right......................:(

Big Teddy :munchin

Wow. Interesting attitude you got there.

I'll add my $0.02 to yours, Sigabab.

Just so no one thinks I'm a bleeding heart liberal feminist - I'll be the first to throw a stone at the ones who cry rape falsely.

As for the OP, it will be interesting to see how this plays out in court when ALL the facts, not just what the media decides to print, are presented.

LL

LL:

Yep, sorry if I irritate the sensitive side of folks, but IMHO when a woman chooses to do a lingerie dance for hire with a man she doesn't know alone in a hotel room she is taking quite a risk, and I suspect that she was well aware of all the risks involved. I doubt she is a ballerina just trying to make it through dance school. If, as you said, in the absence of media driven baloney the truth proves beyond a reasonable doubt that she was honestly providing simple dance services per her contract, then she is not a contributor to the scenario, and old clown-boy goes it alone. OTOH, if she was actually robbed of goods and prostitution services then IMHO she is no better than the slime she considered her "client" (who BTW is an POS who deserves the full fury of the law). Just because a woman crys rape in the company of such an idiot does not mean the offense actually happened. Too many times men good and bad have been saddled as rapists when what they did was make a dim witted selfish dame angry. Oh, well. "Attitude"? yes, I guess I have one. My attitude is that if the woman flaunts her sexuality in front of a man she doesn't know in a hotel room alone then she shouldn't be surprised what the guy turns out to be.

Rant over.

Hope I didn't chap anyones butt. If I did I apologize.

That stings a little doesn't it......

Seems like some of the furor in the press is quieting, at least here on the far side of the continent the story is slipping. Ultimately it turns back into a courtroom he-said, she-said and the stage presence of a group of lawyers.

Larry, do you realize that what you just said is the same attitude that many religions use to justify keeping women covered? Blaming the victim is wrong no matter who the victim was or what he/she was doing. A woman should be able to walk down the street naked and shaking her rear end without fear of being forced to have sex against her will. For that matter she should be able to go to a bar, promise a guy sex, get back to her place and naked and then change her mind and have her wishes respected. Once we start down the path of "oh, the force was o.k. because of what the victim was saying / wearing / doing" we have headed down a very slippery slope.

Like LibraryLady, I am the first to throw stones at women who cry rape falsely. I'm not saying that rape happened in this case - I wasn't there. But if it did, her choice of occupation doesn't somehow make it o.k. for force.

It might be that her choice of work is all she can find in this economy to support her kids. Ever think of that? It's all over the news, single moms laid off, can't find a job, start dancing/stripping/escorting, whatever it takes to feed their kids. Some people will do whatever it takes to survive.

Dancing in lingerie is a far cry from hooking, and it's legal.

I suppose you would rather they hit the welfare line, hmm?

If it turns out it's rape they should hang him.
If it tuns out she's a hooker that got raped they should hang him.
If she's lying, she should pay

Yup. That's what it boils down to.

Completely concur.

Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes?
 

Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes?

Hopefully a criminal court will determine the facts in the rape case and punish/vindicate accordingly. I'm less concerned about the rape allegations than I am about the abuse implied by the reported circumstances. It's the use of his badge/gun/position to engage in morally reprehensible conduct (even without the alleged rape) that profoundly disturbs me. He violated the public trust. As far as I'm concerned, he should be rewarded with a life sentence in general population at a maximum security facility. Without time off for good behaviour.

Yes - I hold anyone with the gov't sanctioned power of life and death to a higher standard.

No, I don't realize that. I guess I'm not smart enough to get your point.

Considering that a woman who dances in her underwear in a hotel room in front of a man she doesn't know does not equate to her religion, does it? Am I being politically INcorrect again?

Absolutely the guy should be hanged if it was rape, regardless. Rape is assault. Period. If she's lying then, of course, she should get the shaft. I guess I'm being told that a man some how could actually be a victim...? If a woman decides to perform a lingerie dance for a strange man in a hotel room I can't help but conclude (from my upbringing) that the woman is running the risk of being assaulted. In that case does that support the man doing the assault...? Hell, no. The argument I'm hearing in this thread is that there was a rape only becasue this woman cried rape and the man was wearing a badge and carrying a gun.

Sorry, y'all. I still think they are both without virtue.

Just because you (and incidentally me) think they are without virtue does not mean they should be treated by the rest of the world as such.

SparseCandy and Kyobanim really hit the nail on the head.

The truth of what happened in that hotel room may never be known. There are two witnesses - and they both believe they know what happened in that room - never mind that their versions are different. It will all be played out in court and obscured by ten tons of legalese.

LL