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Could we put them in "General Population" at Levenworth?

The entertainment value would be a hit, it would at least give the KS boys something to do.

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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 302414)

...[T]he big O

Whoa, Brush Okie!:D

There's only one Big O; he sure as heck isn't the current president of the United States.;) He's this guy!

Here, the Big O tells all "Don't even bother trying, it's mine." There, he takes flight against the greatest defensive player of his day. :lifter

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Originally Posted by wet dog (Post 302444)

Could we put them in "General Population" at Levenworth?

The entertainment value would be a hit, it would at least give the KS boys something to do.

By overwhelming consensus, we the citizens don't want them any where in the State :D

Future Detainee Prison Will Go Beyond 'Supermax'

Source is here.

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Future Detainee Prison Will Go Beyond 'Supermax'
Thomson Correctional Center, Thomson, Ill.
Enlarge Rex Arbogast/AP

The White House said Tuesday that it will transfer a limited number of terrorism suspects from the Guantanamo Bay detention center in Cuba to a prison in rural Illinois, prompting swift criticism from Republicans worried about increased security risks on U.S. soil.

Officials say federal inmates and no more than 100 detainees would be housed at the maximum-security Thomson Correctional Center, located about 150 miles west of Chicago. The Obama administration says the prison could be used for detainees awaiting military trial or for those who can't be released under any circumstances — but only if Congress agrees to change the law.

The government will acquire the underutilized Illinois prison and transform it into a facility that will "exceed perimeter security standards at the nation's only 'supermax' prison in Florence, Colo.," according to a letter to Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Attorney General Eric Holder and Director of National Intelligence Dennis C. Blair.

Those departments "will work closely with state and local law enforcement authorities to identify and mitigate any risks" at the prison, the letter stated. It also made clear that President Obama "has no intention of releasing any detainees in the United States."

Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL) and Quinn were expected to formally announce the news Tuesday afternoon at the White House.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky condemned the administration's plan, saying the American people "already have rejected bringing terrorists to U.S. soil." He accused the White House of failing to explain how transferring some of the detainees to U.S. would be safer than keeping them at the U.S. Navy-run facility in Cuba.

Shortly after taking office, Obama signed an executive order directing the closure of the Guantanamo Bay military prison, which he says has become a symbolic recruiting tool for al-Qaida. However, the task of figuring out what to do with about 215 terrorist suspects there has proven both legally and politically difficult. The White House says detainees can be held safely and securely on U.S. soil, but some Illinois officials say the risk is too great.

Republican Rep. Mark Kirk, who is seeking Obama's old U.S. Senate seat, opposes the move. Kirk has lobbied other officials to contact the White House in opposition to using the facility.

State Rep. Jim Sacia says he isn't thrilled about the prospect of detainees in Illinois, but he disagrees with the safety concerns of his GOP colleagues and says the focus should be on the potential economic benefits.

"I have no doubt in my mind, having sat through several very significant briefings, that keeping the Gitmo prisoners segregated from the remainder of the 1,600 maximum security prisoners will be handled professionally by the military," he said.

Illinois Democrats have enthusiastically embraced the idea of turning the prison over to federal officials as a way to create jobs in a state with roughly 11 percent unemployment.

Sen. Roland Burris said transferring Guantanamo detainees will be "a great economic benefit to the state by creating over 3,000 well-paying jobs and bringing in valuable federal dollars to fund local facility operations." He added that he had "full confidence that the facility will hold these terrorism suspects safely and securely."

Thomson Village President Jerry Hebeler got the news late Monday that his town of 450 residents had been chosen as the site to house detainees from Guantanamo. "It'll be good for the village and the surrounding area, especially with all the jobs that have been lost here," he said.

The Illinois Department of Corrections is ready to transfer out the 200 minimum-security prisoners now housed at the Thomson Correctional Center in anticipation of handing it over to the federal government, IDOC spokeswoman Januari Smith said.

Thomson was built in 2001 as a state prison with the potential to house maximum security inmates. Local officials hoped it would improve the economy, providing jobs to a hard-hit community. However, state budget problems have kept the 1,600-cell prison from ever fully opening.

The facility was one of several sites evaluated by the Federal Bureau of Prisons for their suitability to house detainees from the Navy-run prison at Guantanamo Bay. Other prisons, including Marion, Ill., Hardin, Mont., and Florence, Colo., also expressed interest in taking the Guantanamo detainees to keep prison employees working.

In a Dec. 11 letter to Senate Republicans that was obtained by the Associated Press, Napolitano promised that former Guantanamo detainees' stay on U.S. soil would be temporary.

She wrote that detainees would be treated for immigration purposes as though they were stopped at a U.S. border crossing post. If a detainee were brought to the U.S. for trial, that person could be tried, convicted, serve prison time or be acquitted, Napolitano said.

Congress passed a measure earlier this year that would bar terrorism suspects from U.S. soil unless they were going to be prosecuted. Democrats plan to lift that restriction if the White House can show it has a secure plan for housing the inmates.

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Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 302456)

By overwhelming consensus, we the citizens don't want them any where in the State :D

I feel your pain, I wouldn't want them either.

Could we send them to the Israeli authorities, or would I be hurting someone's sensibilities. They could share a ride with a buch of Marines or 30,000 soldiers to Afganistan.

I say give them a choice, General Population in any of our nation's prisions or a free trip to A-Stan, but of course, with a dog chip in their skulls.

I wonder how much this favor will cost the President...yes...yet another "favor" from the politicians in IL doesn't come free. After all, Obama campaigned to close GITMO...and now got IL to bail him out.

As far as I'm concerned the area in and around the facility now has a bull's eye over it. It's too close for comfort for me.

All these "great" politicians in this state and THIS is how those SOBs want to create jobs? Bringing terrorists on to US soil? Yeah, that's much better than lowering taxes for companies so they may consider moving/staying here, looking hard at the unions which have cost more loss of business for trade shows due to their ridiculously high rates and stupid rules and giving small business owners incentives in order for them to hire more people. :rolleyes:

maybe I am wrong, but if they ever allow them in to the general population they would be a great recruitment tool for Islam, there is a large Islam population in and amongst prison population, the prisoners are perfect pray for recruitment and I could only see these guys being lifted up as some sort of cult status in the prison.

Being from the peoples republic of IL I am amazed everyday how corrupt the state is and many times how stupid some people are...

Gee lets build a supermax prison because we need jobs and put "suspected terrorist" in it, right in our backyard when we have a facility that has been working off of our own (American) soil.. :confused:

Kind of like most of the areas where people were all for river boat gambling and those areas are crime ridden cesspools but hey it makes jobs and brings money into the economy :confused::confused:

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Originally Posted by Gypsy (Post 302498)

looking hard at the unions which have cost more loss of business for trade shows due to their ridiculously high rates and stupid rules and giving small business owners incentives in order for them to hire more people. :rolleyes:

You cannot plug an extension cord in your booth without an union electrician.

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Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 302514)

You cannot plug an extension cord in your booth without an union electrician.

Yep, and that's just for starters.

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Originally Posted by CSB (Post 302412)

Two quotes from the article:

and

3,800 employees for 35 inmates = 108 employees per inmate!?
3,800 employees for 90 inmates = 42 employees per inmate!?

So let's do a little "back of the envelope" math:

Assume a bare minimum $20,000 per year average annual salary per employee.

3,800 employees at $20,000 per year is $76 million dollars per year in payroll alone.

Add electricity, water, food, clothing, etc. and it is obvious (except to Congress) that the
plan contemplates spending over $1 million dollars per year per terrorist.

Using Tax Year 2007 figures (the last year for which complete figures are available):

141 million Americans filed and paid income tax.

The total amount of individual income tax paid by those 141 million filers was
1.115 trillion dollars ($1,115,504,000,000), yielding an average income tax paid by each filer of $7,900.

It takes the total income tax paid by 126 Americans to produce $1 million in revenue.

It will take the total income tax of 11,340 Americans to house the terrorists (whether they number
90 or 35) for one year.

Amazing.

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 302446)

I thought the big "O" was a woman:

http://tokyohiltonrocks.files.wordpr...h-winfrey1.jpg

This thread inspires a VIDEO TRIBUTE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3S7mlRYL-8

AMERIKA

Written by Neil Diamond

Far
THEY've been traveling far
Without a home
But not without a PROFIT

SHARIA
Only want to HAVE SHARIA
We PLOT AND PLAN
Hang on to a KORAN

On the boats and on the planes
They're CRASHING INTO America
Never looking back again
They're CRASHING INTO America

Home, don't it seem so far away
Oh, we're traveling light today
In the eye of the storm
In the eye of the storm

Home, to a new and a shiny place
Make our bed, and we'll say our prayers TO MECCA
AIRPLANE FUEL burning warm
AIRPLANE FUEL burning warm

Everywhere around the world
They're coming to SHARIA
Every time that flag OF JIHAD'S unfurled
They're coming to SHARIA

Got a dream to take them there
They're coming to SHARIA
Got a dream they've come to share
They're coming to SHARIA

They're coming to SHARIA
They're coming to SHARIA
They're coming to SHARIA
They're coming to SHARIA
Today, today, today, today, today

My country 'tis of thee
Today
Sweet land of POVERTY
Today
Of thee I CAN'T sing
Today
Of thee I CAN'T sing
Today

...on a serious note, I heard on the radio that the Administration is already discussing adding other prisoners to this facility...so we get to co-mingle them with the GITMO terrorists?

Has anyone seen this written up?

To funny!! :p:D

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Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor (Post 302592)