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Penn 12-10-2009 13:20

Regardless of the numbers, political parties, etc,. This historic speech will long be remembered as redefining once again, America's place and moral bearing in the world

Quote:

But as a head of state sworn to protect and defend my nation, I cannot be guided by their examples alone. I face the world as it is, and cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the American people. For make no mistake: Evil does exist in the world. A nonviolent movement could not have halted Hitler's armies. Negotiations cannot convince al Qaeda's leaders to lay down their arms. To say that force is sometimes necessary is not a call to cynicism -- it is a recognition of history; the imperfections of man and the limits of reason.

To say that force is sometimes necessary is not a call to cynicism -- it is a recognition of history.


Yet the world must remember that it was not simply international institutions -- not just treaties and declarations -- that brought stability to a post-World War II world. Whatever mistakes we have made, the plain fact is this: The United States of America has helped underwrite global security for more than six decades with the blood of our citizens and the strength of our arms. The service and sacrifice of our men and women in uniform has promoted peace and prosperity from Germany to Korea, and enabled democracy to take hold in places like the Balkans. We have borne this burden not because we seek to impose our will. We have done so out of enlightened self-interest -- because we seek a better future for our children and grandchildren, and we believe that their lives will be better if other peoples' children and grandchildren can live in freedom and prosperity.

Warrior-Mentor 12-11-2009 07:13

Apparently the NOBEL SPEECH PRIZE speech was a hit...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...oval-1044.html

President Obama Job Approval - Dec 11, 2009

Poll Date Sample Approve Disapprove Spread

RCP Average 12/1 - 12/9 -- 48.8 45.4 +3.4

FOX News 12/8 - 12/9 900 RV 50 44 +6

Rasmussen Reports 12/7 - 12/9 1500 LV 46 53 -7

CBS News/NY Times 12/4 - 12/8 1031 A 50 39 +11

The Reaper 12-11-2009 09:41

On the RCP composite, more like meaningless and biased liberal surveys cycling into the mix and some more critical ones of actual voters falling off.

TR

Warrior-Mentor 12-11-2009 10:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 301650)
On the RCP composite, more like meaningless and biased liberal surveys cycling into the mix and some more critical ones of actual voters falling off.

TR

Quit exposing the TTPs of the socialist, er, I mean Democratic, operatives.

http://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statis.../dp/0393310728

P.S. Wish we had a strike thru button like we do the Bold, italics and Underline...

Penn 12-11-2009 14:22

A simple straight forward question, did the speech reaffirm, yet once again;
1. The sacrifice that America has made for the community of man?
2. Did it not reflect the understanding that we, America, comprehend the price paid in Blood by our fellow citizens for the world's Freedom and that the free world needs to recognize and be reminded of that simple truth.

I would venture that if Reagan or Bush had made this speech, the collective here would be lining up for communion; having reached salvation and the promise land, bearing banners proclaiming to the world in capital letters: “You owe us” in no uncertain terms.......I think he did a great job proclaiming that to the world, something Europe hate’s hearing, but needs to be reminded of, He accomplished that in the most diplomatic fashion. This message of our humble awareness and America’s place could not have been delivered by a more skilled orator, or in a setting so perfectly tailored for just such a presentation. It was a magnificent performance. We owe him our gratitude for expressing those simple facts to the world.

Dusty 12-11-2009 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penn (Post 301731)
A simple straight forward question, did the speech reaffirm, yet once again;
1. The sacrifice that America has made for the community of man?
2. Did it not reflect the understanding that we, America, comprehend the price paid in Blood by our fellow citizens for the world's Freedom and that the free world needs to recognize and be reminded of that simple truth.

I would venture that if Reagan or Bush had made this speech, the collective here would be lining up for communion; having reached salvation and the promise land, bearing banners proclaiming to the world in capital letters: “You owe us” in no uncertain terms.......I think he did a great job proclaiming that to the world, something Europe hate’s hearing, but needs to be reminded of, He accomplished that in the most diplomatic fashion. This message of our humble awareness and America’s place could not have been delivered by a more skilled orator, or in a setting so perfectly tailored for just such a presentation. It was a magnificent performance. We owe him our gratitude for expressing those simple facts to the world.

Yeah, well, everybody's entitled to his own opinion, but his reversal from the norm of apologizing for our Country at every opportunity overseas is, IMO, a political tactic in which he engaged to staunch the flow of political blood. I get the impression that even the POTUS doesn't believe his own BS.

44% of the Country wishes Bush were back as POTUS, BTW.

Over half the Country knows it screwed up.

Penn 12-13-2009 13:04

I'm sure you have all watched these Sunday’s news roundtable discussions...and heard William Kistol and Pat Bucannon EXTOL his address to the world.
One in which Kistol commented on: the reaffirmation of America's rightful place and the respect she has earned and is due...even die hard republican rightwing extremist, as Pat Bucannon joined in the communion of agreeing with my comments to commend the importance of the speech, not only on the timing, but place. I haven't finished checking, but I seemed to have been waaaaaaaaay ahead of the media in doing so, But enough about me.

So,

The President throughout his campaigned stated what issue's he would push. One was repositioning America rightfulness...he also spoke about his admiration for Lincoln and his ability to hold the Nation together. That being true and the media now pushing the Obama Doctrine...I am wondering and thinking, how Lincoln prior to the civil war, did everything in his power, including standing down his objection to slavery to preclude hostilities, by tirelessly pursuing all avenues to avert war, even compromising his beliefs with the south…mirrors Obama’s world trek over the past year, speaking with and too all nations, about our responsibilities; until finally presenting to the world America’s position on the concept of “just war” and a Nations right to defend itself.

I see him differently now, I see him as the reasoned, patient, knowledgeable leader in the mold of Lincoln. Politically ruthless in the sublimes of ways…you do not become the editor of the Harvard Law Review without those qualities deeply rooted in your skill set. Also, there is a direct correlation between that position - editor of HLR, the Presidency and the Supreme Court; usually a direct line in fact.

It has been suggested that since almost all SC justices come from three law schools, (Harvard, Yale and Columbia) with Presidents not far behind, that there is a ruling elite. If that’s plausible, then we would have to consider the current President a member of that class, which would imply, that as a member he would be most interested in perpetuating the status quo; as he did in Oslo.

Pete 12-13-2009 13:13

"One Ahhhh, Shit."
 
You know the saying "One Ahhh, Shit wipes out 100 Atta' Boys."

So in the reverse "Does this one Atta' Boy wipe out the 100 Ahhh, Shits?"

Does the talk match the walk? We'll see.

The Reaper 12-13-2009 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penn (Post 302068)
I'm sure you have all watched these Sunday’s news roundtable discussions...and heard William Kistol and Pat Bucannon EXTOL his address to the world.
One in which Kistol commented on: the reaffirmation of America's rightful place and the respect she has earned and is due...even die hard republican rightwing extremist, as Pat Bucannon joined in the communion of agreeing with my comments to commend the importance of the speech, not only on the timing, but place. I haven't finished checking, but I seemed to have been waaaaaaaaay ahead of the media in doing so, But enough about me.

So,

The President throughout his campaigned stated what issue's he would push. One was repositioning America rightfulness...he also spoke about his admiration for Lincoln and his ability to hold the Nation together. That being true and the media now pushing the Obama Doctrine...I am wondering and thinking, how Lincoln prior to the civil war, did everything in his power, including standing down his objection to slavery to preclude hostilities, by tirelessly pursuing all avenues to avert war, even compromising his beliefs with the south…mirrors Obama’s world trek over the past year, speaking with and too all nations, about our responsibilities; until finally presenting to the world America’s position on the concept of “just war” and a Nations right to defend itself.

I see him differently now, I see him as the reasoned, patient, knowledgeable leader in the mold of Lincoln. Politically ruthless in the sublimes of ways…you do not become the editor of the Harvard Law Review without those qualities deeply rooted in your skill set. Also, there is a direct correlation between that position - editor of HLR, the Presidency and the Supreme Court; usually a direct line in fact.

It has been suggested that since almost all SC justices come from three law schools, (Harvard, Yale and Columbia) with Presidents not far behind, that there is a ruling elite. If that’s plausible, then we would have to consider the current President a member of that class, which would imply, that as a member he would be most interested in perpetuating the status quo; as he did in Oslo.

I have to respectfully disagree with you on almost all of your points.

TR

The Reaper 12-14-2009 09:18

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Monday, December 14, 2009 Email to a Friend Advertisement
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 24% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-two percent (42%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -18.

That’s a one point improvement from yesterday when Obama’s Approval Index rating fell to the lowest level yet recorded. Prior to the past three days, the Approval Index had never fallen below -15 during Obama’s time in office (see trends).

(cont. at link)

Richard 12-14-2009 09:25

I'm sure it'll go up after his warm n' fuzzy WH tour last night. :rolleyes:

Richard's jaded $.02 :munchin

MackallResident 12-14-2009 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 302232)
I'm sure it'll go up after his warm n' fuzzy WH tour last night. :rolleyes:

Richard's jaded $.02 :munchin

I agree, in fact, while hearing about that, I was thinking of this thread. I check it daily.

Warrior-Mentor 01-13-2010 09:10

+1.8 sets a new low for Obama in the RCP Presidential Job Approval Rating.


President Obama Job Approval - Jan 13, 2010

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...oval-1044.html

Poll Date Sample Approve Disapprove Spread

RCP Average 1/5 - 1/11 -- 47.6 45.8 +1.8 [NOTE: THIS IS HIS LOWEST APPROVAL SINCE BEING ELECTED]

Quinnipiac 1/5 - 1/11 1767 RV 45 45 Tie

Gallup 1/9 - 1/11 1547 A 50 42 +8

Rasmussen Reports 1/9 - 1/11 1500 LV 46 53 -7

CNN 1/8 - 1/10 1021 A 51 48 +3

CBS News 1/6 - 1/10 1216 A 46 41 +5

EXTRA CREDIT READING:
http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time....pproval-at-45/

Warrior-Mentor 01-14-2010 09:41

+1.8 RCP Average today
 
No change from yesterday - holding his all time low.

Here's a new story on the same lines tough:

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal...rity_would.php

Warrior-Mentor 01-28-2010 20:49

+1.5 sets a new low for Obama in the RCP Presidential Job Approval Rating - the day after the State of the Union!


President Obama Job Approval - Jan 28, 2010

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...oval-1044.html

Poll Date Sample Approve Disapprove Spread

RCP Average 1/14 - 1/27 -- 48.5 47.0 +1.5

Gallup 1/25 - 1/27 1547 A 47 46 +1

Rasmussen Reports 1/25 - 1/27 1500 LV 46 54 -8

NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 1/23 - 1/25 800 A 50 44 +6

CNN/Opinion Research 1/22 - 1/24 1009 A 49 50 -1

NPR - POS/GQR 1/20 - 1/23 800 LV 49 48 +1

STATE OF THE UNION - JAN 2010
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...09_100077.html


CBS News 1/14 - 1/17 1090 A 50 40 +10


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