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Sacamuelas 07-23-2004 07:59

NDD-
If you like that mag, their website is offering FREE to the public back issue articles. YOu can click on them, fill out a quick info section ( real or made up) except your email address, and they send you a link to view the articles as a adobe .pdf file.

Here is one by Rogers on proper carbine positioning... comments?
Username: SWATrocks
Password: watchsix

http://www.swatmag.com/shop/media/do...hots_02_05.pdf

NousDefionsDoc 07-23-2004 08:22

Cool, thanks.

I'll read the whole thing later, but I can tell you right now, I don't like that off hand grip on the mag well/mag. You start finger fookin' an M4 mag, you're going to have feed problems. I've seen it a million times.

VMI_Marine 07-23-2004 13:10

One thing I see that I most definitely agree with is using the support hand to operate the charging handle. I hook the catch with the index finger of my support hand and pull, and with the exception of performing remedial action, I have no need to remove my firing hand from the pistol grip. Using the strong side hand to manipulate magazines, work the charging handle, and "thumbing" the bolt catch are a few of the bad habits that Marines pick up at the KD range. It would be nice to see the field firing portion of the rifle range turn into a week-long block of instruction and qualification on no-shit combat shooting.

NousDefionsDoc 07-23-2004 14:09

I realize there is always a "best" way to do these things. My take on the off hand is I don't really care how they do it as long as they get it done quickly and smoothly. The reason I don't like the offhand on the mag is it makes the weapon malfunction.

From what I hear and can imagine, the SOG guys could change a CAR 15 mag faster than Billy the Kid could go for his guns. I'd like to hear their take on this.

VMI - are you guys carrying secondary weapons?

Guy 07-24-2004 11:29

Roger that!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Cool, thanks.

I'll read the whole thing later, but I can tell you right now, I don't like that off hand grip on the mag well/mag. You start finger fookin' an M4 mag, you're going to have feed problems. I've seen it a million times.

I agree.

If you are more comfortable with pulling the weapon in, to keep it seated in the pocket of the shoulder with your off-hand.

Just slide back on the hand-gaurds until the knife edge of your off-hand is making contact with just the magazine well and not the magazine.

VMI_Marine 07-24-2004 17:18

I never had a problem with grasping the mag well, but I haven't fired the amount of rounds that you and Guy have, so I'll defer to your experience. Negative on secondary weapons, although I am going to try to take a 1911 with me on the next go-round.

The Reaper 07-24-2004 18:46

Quote:

Originally posted by VMI_Marine
I never had a problem with grasping the mag well, but I haven't fired the amount of rounds that you and Guy have, so I'll defer to your experience. Negative on secondary weapons, although I am going to try to take a 1911 with me on the next go-round.
Do not take a POW with you, you are better off trying to pick one up in country, then you can dump it when you leave.

TR

Guy 07-26-2004 18:06

Roger that TR.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by The Reaper
Do not take a POW with you, you are better off trying to pick one up in country, then you can dump it when you leave.

TR

Look for 9mm...easier to acquire rounds Sir.;)

MP...MP, look what I have to trade.:D

Psywar1-0 08-07-2004 13:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Blackjack78
Pat is a good man and an excellent trainer as well.
Totally agree, just spent the last 6 days learning from him. Im humbled by what I thought I knew, and 1000% better now.

GackMan 08-09-2004 00:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Psywar1-0
Totally agree, just spent the last 6 days learning from him. Im humbled by what I thought I knew, and 1000% better now.
Were you in class with this guy?

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/shoote...carbine04.html


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