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The problem is bad in Socal too. The large indoor cultivation operations are mostly done by Asian gangs. A large grow was busted only a block from my house. The criminals came to my white middle class neighborhood in '06 and paid 750K for a 2500 square foot house that sits on about half an acre. It also has a 2000 square foot corregated metal workshop that sits behind the house. They began growing immediately and after only a few months the Police got wise to what they were doing and raided the place. The entire growing operation was automated and there was nobody there when the officers came. The gangs that do this have so much money that they just consider it a small loss when they get shut down and go buy another house and start growing again.

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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 265556)

That is it in a nutshell. The feds ingore the "small" grower in northern CA. They used to not go after anyone with less than 100 plants. They leave it up to the local and state authorties to go after anything less than 100 plants. That was about five yers ago, the number may have changed since then.

You ARE both right. We go after the larger cases because the locals should handle the small jobs. We in the Fed LEO side are after Larger Org's that make a bigger impact. The 100 plant thing is a rule of thumb by office not an agency rule. You break the law we will arrest you. It may be handed to the locals to prosecute or tried in Fed Court depending all factors and the AUSA.........

Just like the locals you need the DA to prosecute or you go no where.

Do the dead be prepared to do the time.

There is also the other common misconception we have up in AK. That less than 100 plants and it is ok. That you aren't breaking laws. So does DEA recruit directly out of active duty SF that are looking to ETS or retire?

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Originally Posted by Fiercely Loyal (Post 265628)

There is also the other common misconception we have up in AK. That less than 100 plants and it is OK. That you aren't breaking laws. So does DEA recruit directly out of active duty SF that are looking to ETS or retire?

No DEA does not even go out and recruit from the military. You have the Age cutoff for being a FED LEO (1811) so it is hard to retire and get in. I am a rare thing here. Be aware if the DA or AUSA and agent want you bad enough you only have to have broken the law and they go after you. It just depends how bad they want you. Piss them off and they dig their heals in and you are screwed. Always be nice to the Cop and you may be let off with a warning...... Be bitchy with them and they will dig into you and they will find enough to charge you........ Daddy always said say YES SIR and NO SIR and be Polite.

OH NEVER SAY YES WHEN THEY ASK IF YOU WOULD MIND IF THEY SEARCH YOUR CAR........ That is just dumb........ You Say YES and you are going to have problems, if they have probable cause they will not ask and just do it.

Just my 2 cents

I have a question. When I drive, I set my speed control exactly on the speed limit.(I have a heavy foot) 3 times I have been stopped in 2 different southern states for what I don't know. I am an average, graying middle aged white guy driving an average middle aged guys 4 door sedan. They always check out the back seat and once asked to look in my trunk. Is it possible these are stops looking for drugs? Or maybe stops to avoid "profiling" charges? It doesn't bother me, I am not mad. If it helps stop drug trafficking, great, it is a small inconvenience. But I have been curious about it. By the way, I always address the officers as sir and they are always polite in return. Any thoughts?

Nobody drives at exactly the speed limit unless they are geriatric, or doing something they do not want to get stopped for. You drive the speed limit on an interstate highway on a trafficking route, you meet a profile, and by stopping you, they check the box for racial diversity.

TR

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Originally Posted by dmgedgoods (Post 265647)

The drug trade is there regardless of legalized medical marijuana or not. I'm not saying it doesn't happen...there are several cases of medical growers selling out the back door. But for the actual "patient" selling their pot? You have to remember that these "patients" pay a premium for services rendered. As a business minded individual, I would have to say the money just isn't there.

Emboldening Mexican gangs? I have heard this several times across the country. Coming from an area where marijuana is as easy to get as anything at the local drug store, I consistently disagree. In my area alone, the Hells Angels and local Mexican gangs could care less about pot. Meth, cocaine, and heroine are the money makers. These gangs can still pull a premium within these markets, and do so on a daily basis.

Drugs are available everywhere, and are all too easy to get. The drug dealers and cultivators that have the biggest impact are those on the larger side of the scale. John Doe may grow 10 plants and sell the weed out his back door and buy a new motorcycle. Jane Doe may grow 10000 plants and use the money to traffic guns into border towns along the Mexican border. You really need to pick your fight carefully, especially with the marijuana trade. The last I heard, pot was the largest cash crop that America has. I feel the DEA and other federal agencies are doing a good job going for the big dogs, and trying to take the money out at the top. In the Bay Area, you rarely saw DEA actively engaging small time grow ops, or even medical facilities for that matter. As said before, the small stuff is left for the local officials to deal with.

Even in California, this is still a contentious issue that is hotly debated. We should see California as a bellwether for further federal action. I am all for strict drug enforcement, so let's see how it pans out in the Peoples Republic.

Shawn

Roger that sir.

At what point is legalization discussed as an option? I don't see many Mexican gangs getting rich off of whiskey.

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Originally Posted by Dad (Post 265652)

I completely agree with TR, if you get tired of getting stopped set your cruise at 4 over, (with few exceptions like Virginia) you're very unlikely to get pulled over at all. Above 5 over and you have some chance (though still small IMO) of getting pulled. In some states such as NC there's no Points at 9 mph over the limit or below, so most LEO's wait for the magic 10 mph over the limit to pull, unless of course they're looking for something other than speeders.

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 265653)

TR,

I'm amazed,you mean to say that they do "profiling" in the PD's here in the south.......:rolleyes: How shocking..........:p And by the way, I'm a geriatric and I do set my speed control at the speed limit,and haven't been stopped yet......... ;) Maybe it's the wheel chair I've got on the lift in back of the car!

GB TFS :munchin