Our son in the 2/508 and they got home 3 DAYS early.

BMT

Damn Shameful
 

Being stationed here on Bragg, I've heard a number of times from my Soldiers who have friends that are stationed in the 82nd, of the crap they've been dealing with this month.

I myself have wondered when will they be completed, and how the hell they can play the shell game with that many Soldiers.

Since Walter Reed broke in the news and hit someone square between the eyes, I have no doubts that this one will not go unnoticed. Fayetteville is pretty supportive of the troops, I doubt anyone has enough crisis management experience to keep this one quiet.

Are the 508 barracks where the 4/325 use to be?

Seriously F%&king Pissed is but a shadow of my emotions right now.

And civilians wonder why Soldiers chose to ETS and join PMC's....


Travis

Wow...Not to seem out of line but that is just plain wrong. Service men and women deserve much better than that. For what it's worth I wrote a letter to my congressman about this...

Stafe Safe,

TJ

Deplorable. email sent to Senator.

FWIW, these are extremely similar conditions to what my unit lived in in Korea (in 98). When the CG wanted to swing by and check on the barracks - whoa boy! The BDE CSM had us all on "special duty" for a week to try and make the place look good - superficially...

ever tried to paint over mold?

Fayetteville Observer Article
 

Here is the Fayetteville Observer Article with a few more details.

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=292425

Pete

Gentlemen please do not over react. - The story was in today's paper and the unit came home 13 days early in the middle of a refit of the barracks. Their new barracks is due to be occupied this summer and that one torn down. The kids got all new furniture and the army gave a full tour of that barracks to the press yesterday to show them exactly what was going on. Yes it was a pig sty due to refit and construction, they are getting new, anyone on Fort Bragg knows that that area is one giant construction site as they replace barracks all up and down Gruber. Personally, I think it is a Father that saw and reacted to his little snap shot of what he thought was a normal living condition. In reality, it was a blurred snap shot.

My 2 cents on this one as I have lived through the dump trucks building new barracks for these same soldiers for the last 5 years. The trucks are a royal pain but the barracks actually belong on a campus. The new barracks are excellent!!

Now, those photos of those other barracks are not as bad as some of the barracks I lived in in the 60s. So I guess it becomes perspective. :munchin :D

Edited to say Pete just posted one of the articles while I was typing. :D

We had similar, though not quite as extreme, conditions at Ft Campbell. They were retrofitting the old crud barracks with new paint, floor tiles, drinking fountains, etc. We were also told we'd have new barracks when we returned from Iraq...again between funding a politics, the construction went elsewhere. I understand that new buildings take a lot of time, money, and greasing of the wheels to get anywhere, but sometimes enough is enough.
The 187th barracks were pretty new and immaculate in, but none of the STB soldiers were in those.

It's one thing to live in a beater that needs some work. Soldiers can, and should, maintain their AO and take a little bit of pride in the fact that if something was broken, they fixed it and didn't have to rely on DPW or the does-this-really-do-anything "work order" process. That's why there are soldier self-help centers, after all.
It's entirely another to live in a building that will get Joes very ill.

Longrange1947: I may sound skeptical, but 13 days is not a lot of time to clean up that mess...not unless they get some of those handy workers like we had in the barracks on Camp Carroll, Korea. Those guys were FAST and efficient!

Because of this video all Barracks had a Livability / Health and Welfare check done this morning on Fort Hood. So someone in the right position saw the video.

This is a predictable consequence of funding garrison O&M accounts at 30% of their needs, and of Congress not approving appropriations in a timely manner, forcing the Army to rob the O&M accounts for operations funding.

TR

As a former 82nd ABN Infantrymen I also lived in those same barracks. They were beat up twenty years ago too. Oh and by the way, we infantrymen did most of the damage to those barracks.;)

But as an Infantrymen it really didn't matter.... it's better than living in a foxhole full of water or a tent. I don't hear the infantry men bitching, just some guys father.

Hey "Dad", we (infantrymen) don't "live" in those barracks, just sleep and shower there. We live at Myrtle beach, downtown Fayetteville, etc. and all over the world. Now if you really want to be appalled just follow some of the infantrymen around the streets of Fayetteville.:D

TS

Empire State Building
 

A Case Study in Successful Commercial Construction Management

:munchin

ALCAN
 

It took less time to build the ALCAN Highway than it did to build the section of 295 conecting I-95 and north Fayetteville.

Still waiting on the next section from Ramsey over to the Murch to start.

I just realized who the father was...... I just sent him some money for videos a few weeks ago........now I wish I told him I was a former 82nd Airborne Div Infantrymen and maybe he'd have cut me a deal! :rolleyes:

http://leerburg.com/vidolist.htm

http://leerburg.com/barracks.htm

http://leerburg.com/baghdad3.htm

Pete, I know you remember when we had to move out of the barracks on Smoke Bomb Hill and into the WWII era barracks in the old COSCOM area in 1977. Those old squad bay barracks were in terrible condition.