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I want to make a T-Shirt that says on the front “Just got back from China and all’s I got was this lousy T-Shirt and... (on the back) a fever and a cough! |
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40,000 people in the USA die on an AVERAGE year from influenza... I worked the urgent care 2 weeks ago and had 30 proven cases of influenza 1/2 Influenza A and 1/2 Influenza B. |
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While it can be quick, this is generally a long slow grind of a disease with a 10-30 day course before death. The 80 year olds go first and quickest, it’s just how it presents. The guys closest to this have basically scuttled their South China Sea ambitions, Silk Road, etc. for the next 5 years. If it’s a nothingburger, why? I agree CFR will come down as we get a clearer picture of numbers, but they already state 80% mild. It’s the 20% remaining where the devil is. Sun city, the villages, etc. are in for a ride. Equating this with seasonal flu is just not borne out by the current facts, but I guess we’ll see. |
The community case Trump talked about was an intubated patient transferred to UC Davis Medical from another undisclosed hospital, assumed to be in the SF area.
Davis instituted droplet control, but not airborne, within a day and airborne control after 4 more days. But...no special PPE, no special procedures for infectious disease presumedly at hospital number one or Davis. Everyone who treated the patient at either hospital, or was involved in transport, are exposed. And, the patient presumedly came from a community cluster. No China contact, or contact with China contact. I’m assuming we’re looking at school closures in Cali in 7-10 days. I thought Trump looked ill or exhausted. Maybe he was just scared. |
14% of Recovered covid19 patients in Guangdong tested positive again. This is very worrying, suggesting there is no memory antibody response, just innate immunity. Will make vaccine effort more difficult.
A Laurie Garrett tweet. This is a coronavirus. Not the flu. This will likely transition to being another disease like the seasonal flu in a couple years, but it will have to burn through the population first. The tale will be told in a 4 week period now that it’s uncontained in Cali, so I’ll shut up now a watch. Good luck all. |
So now they're saying NorCal has, as far as they know, a "spontaneously" infected individual? So now this thing can pole-vault across the Pacific? :rolleyes:
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Cali had 6400 under 'voluntary isolation.' All had China travel. None were tested. No pole vaulting necessary. |
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The latest WHO update says we are in the 3rd bordering the 4th (worst) level of spread and the ability to contain.
https://youtu.be/6bKjQ4Q9fFU The real test comes a couple days after the schools start closing. After that the local supply chains will have to work hard to keep everyday items (milk, eggs, children's Tylenol) in stock with the majority of the population sitting at home. |
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I was talking supply chain effects. There are other diseases and other patients being treated other than flu and covid. No antibiotics, pressors, antineoplastics, etc is kinda a big deal. No abx for bacterial pneumonia prophylaxis in intubated patients is problematic. And historically, the community acquired bacterial pneumonia following respiratory disease is a big killer. No abx is a big deal. |
Mugwump, I’ll defer to your continued interest in this event and wait and watch all the hysteria as it unfolds. The world is over crowded in certain areas and places like San Francisco needs a good enema anyways.
As for the Iranian leader who helped orchestrate the Tehran hostage ordeal being infected...good for him! If the Chinese weaponized a strain of Coronavirus that’s been around as long as most of us have been alive to kill us all...then we deserve it. (Watching them first) |
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The genetics of coronaviruses is beyond me, but people I trust say no fingerprints of genetic manipulation. My personal opinion is this is an obscure bat virus that inadvertently escaped containment. That Wuhan level 4 facility has had at least 4 SARS escapes in the last 7 years, quickly contained. I think Xi thought they could contain this one and no one would be wiser. Fail. There are a lot of good people in SF. Turns out the initial hospital was in Sacramento. |
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Seems that nowadays doctors simply won't prescribe anything "off label." |
Interestingly enough, a guy I know just kicked Wednesday.
"She said he had a terrible January and finally succumbed to pneumonia." I wonder if they did any serious checking what did it on the corpse He was 70. Can't wait to see how Spring Break goes...:munchin Meanwhile... https://www.americanpartisan.org/202...mic-world-war/ |
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