The reasoning of your last question can be turned on its head. If most of 1.6 billion Muslims were as hostile as you believe, would not the current war take a vastly different form?

Yeah. But that would make a few million on our side hostile. Quick war.

The guys in ME garb were wrongly thrown off that aircraft. That should not happen period.
Yes, if 1.6 billion were active it'd be a dif deal. What's 10% of 1.6 billion as that's the estimate of the rad Muslims willing to perform violent Jihad.
Sadly, only 10% will actually side against them in comment and the other 80 % will stay on the sidelines as they know it is haram to side with the kafir against another Muslim.
How many Germans were avid Nazi's and look at the results.
How many Russians were actually avid Communists and look at the results.
Most Muslims will look the other way, pray 5 times a day and if pushed will partake if the Muslim entity. That include American Muslims too in my opinion.

QP PRB--

As I argued in post #93, above, I think we're in trouble if only 10% of the 10% make an active commitment to radicalism. I am equally concerned that our own actions do not unnecessarily provoke others to join that cause for other reasons.

If we're going to compare Islam to Communism as practiced by the Soviets, then we could ask another rhetorical question: if containment worked against the Russians, then why can't a variation of it work against the radical Muslims?

I'll stand by my orginal post.....way back on page one
 

PRB, I respectfully disagree with this statement. It has been stated over and over in this thread that the Pilot In Command has the final authority on who rides and who doesn't.

The men in ME garb were kicked off because the pilot wanted them off, period (Right or wrong? We will see). None of us were there that day, but I would venture to say ME garb was not the only reason they were kicked off.

This pilot will have to account for the decision he made, and I guarantee he didn't make it lightly. This pilot knew full well the potential consequences his decision may lead to. With that, please stand by his decision and let those who do the investigation determine whether it was justified or not.

I'm trying to end this debate.....not keep it going.

Mike

From one guest to another...
 

Mike--

The debate taking place in this thread goes far beyond the incident described in the OP.

The discussion dates back at least to 19 March 2004 (if not earlier, if one counts similar conversations "across the street"). It spans across many of this BB's forums and through scores, if not hundreds, of threads.

Moreover, this BB often sees controversial decisions discussed back and forth. Generally, we who are guests do not set limits on what our esteemed hosts may or may not debate.

No containment
 

Islam is the sea in which the terrorist shark swims. It aids and comforts the shark on it's journey. The deeper the sea the larger the shark can grow.

Islam is not contained. In the US Islam is mainly puddles here and there - except Dearborn, NYC and a few other places. But it is raining and the puddles are growing.

That is a great analogy, Pete! I like it. Because I crisscross America from CO to the east coast a lot, I see these little puddles in some of the weirdest places. I see those as wisps of the great web that is growing and connecting and the spider in the middle is the most vicious and venomous of all.

Sigaba, because we live in a PC society that does not allow us to do so, if you are talking about how we managed to keep most of the Red Commies at bay from our country (though not entirely) or are you talking about the Soviet persecution of anyone NOT communist and against Christians and Jews? Remember we are suppose to be a global nation, without prejudices or nationalism.

"as wisps"

You misspelled "ass wipes".

Dusty, you are right. Darn'it!!! My speel check isn't working again. :D

Go to school in Detroit? :p :D

Richard :munchin

Sir Richard, nope! I just have fast fingers. LOL

Originally Posted by Sigaba
.........If we're going to compare Islam to Communism as practiced by the Soviets, then we could ask another rhetorical question: if containment worked against the Russians, then why can't a variation of it work against the radical Muslims?

My point was that it doesn't take a great many to create a great evil...most will just stand by and let it happen.
However, containing a Nation state with a central authority is possible...Islam is an idea with no central authority.

Because the Soviets didn't control the majority of the world's oil supply.

TR