Please quote the surah you are refering to as many early surah have been officially abrogated by later surah...also note that the surah are not numbered in order of transmission but by the size of the chapter or book.
In the Old Testiment , and this is an old argument, violence was called for in a specific time/place...not for all of time as in the Quran...and more to the point, the New Test changed the way God/Man related etc....
Radical Islam has been around forever, it generally went dormant when those in power (Governmental/tribal) did not have the wherewithal to promote violent Islam.
The change from Tribal to organizational rad Islam took off in the mid 1800's...try reading some early Qutb.
BTW, Muhammed personally beheaded prisoners as they would not ACCEPT Islam and opposed him...the treatment for Islamic prisoners follows your description.
I disagree with you about the Islamic tradition of violence....it does underwrite violence against non believers. It does so specifically...look up the surah I listed earlier.
Be aware that the early writings of Muhammed, when he had no power and thought that the Jews/Christians would openly convert, are often peaceful and concilitory. However, when he gained manpower and warlike tribes he wrote the war surah's.
The contradiction is obvious and Islamic scholars agree that 'that which came last is best'...in other words the later written warlike violent surahs abrogate the earlier.
Muslims know most westerners don't know this so they trot out abrogated peaceful surah's to mollify. Please delve into this.

Additionally, the Old Testament was written for learning about the religion's history. It was not meant to be followed by modern man.

"For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope." Romans 15:4

"Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come." Corinthians 10:11

"For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect." 1 Corinthians 10:11

"For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second." Hebrews 8:7


The Old Testament was made "obsolete" upon the death of Jesus.

"For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator." Hebrews 9:16

"Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross" Colossians 2:14

It didn't just suddenly arise. It's been around even before I was born. It's blatantly more "obvious" thanks to the internet, CNN and other news outlets. Graphic photos and all.

In fact, radical islam never really "went away" if you back track all the way back in time to the time of the crusades and the fall of Jerusalem.

I can name a host of norms in Islam and amongst muslims in modern day pakistan that was barbaric and inhumane back in the 1500-1900's....that they conducted on non-muslims and those who refused to convert...

Its all in writing.

A rhetorical question...or three.
 

Does the fact that radical Muslims haven't been able to get it done after five plus centuries tell us anything about the sustainability of their ideas?

Do we really want GWOT to be a conflict centering around the religious beliefs of the masses?

Is it prudent to define other human beings by one characteristic alone be it religion, nationality, profession, political practices, social standing, ideology, gender, or sexual preference?

In bold above Sigaba.

Sir, here are verses 4:88-91 of the Qur'an in English translation:

88 Why should ye be divided into two parties about the Hypocrites? Allah hath upset them for their (evil) deeds. Would ye guide those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way, never shalt thou find the Way.
89 They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-
90 Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: Therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (Guarantees of) peace, then Allah Hath opened no way for you (to war against them).
91 Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: Every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto: if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye get them: In their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them.

(Abdullah Yusuf Ali translation)

A more accurate probability
 

I understand what you're saying, and if you predict a trend based on the single characteristic of religion, then I may well be most likely of all the commenters here to commit suicide terrorism. However, if you look at demographics and motivation for suicide bombing, the probability plummets.

After reading Robert Pape's book "Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism" I looked at the site of his Chicago Project on Security and Terrorism . If you search the database he has collected on suicide terrorism over the last 30 years you will see that I am the wrong gender, wrong age and living in the wrong country to be a good bet to blow myself up. I live in a prosperous country where I have absolute freedom to speak my mind, practice my religion, participate in the political process, eat too much and sleep all night. I am not living through a war. No one has invaded or occupied my country. I have no motivation to become a suicide bomber.

The reward of martyrdom is not one I will receive. Sir, again - I understand what you're saying but it's inaccurate. I will have to find another way to jannah.

BLUF
 

I don't care what race, relgion, creed, or whatever you are. If you come here and attack us, kill our friends and family, you will pay the price. You can try to understand evil all you want but in the end good people just need to go forth and stamp it out. I know someone will throw some moral equavalency BS into my statement but if you can't recognize evil then I can't explain it to you.

Blue(thats Bluebb)

Well said Bluebb

Aloysius: "One question is: Why all of a sudden, after all this time, did this radical form of Islam suddenly arise? And how to we exterminate radical Islam?
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Are you being facetious, ignorant or what?

You call A.D. 643 recent?

Did she also tell you that drinking it by the gallon impedes rational thought?

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