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Badger52 09-14-2021 15:13

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Originally Posted by JimP (Post 670988)
Don't forget the US Postal Service - 600,000 workers strong: exempt. "Good paying, Union jobs...."

Naw...couldn't be any sort of payback...., not from the democrats, nope.

Yessir, they get some different exemption to substitute weekly testing. That's by statute that quasi separates them from the Fed writ large. You know the statute, the one that glorifies how self-sustaining they'll be trying to operate like a profit-center but end up not even being able to pay the interest on their constant loans. Well... your loan, my loan, even the loans from The Boxen.

Razor 09-14-2021 19:46

Government civilian employees in DOD also can opt for weekly testing in lieu of getting vaccinated as well.

Paslode 09-14-2021 20:19

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Originally Posted by Razor (Post 671012)
Government civilian employees in DOD also can opt for weekly testing in lieu of getting vaccinated as well.

There is quite the gambit on who can and cannot do what.

7624U 09-14-2021 20:54

Soldiers get a General letter of reprimand no test :D


WASHINGTON — The Army outlined its plan today to fully comply with the Secretary of Defense’s order requiring all Service members to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19.

The Army began implementing the Secretary of Defense’s order on August 24, following DoD and White House guidance. Before then, vaccines had been optional.

“This is quite literally a matter of life and death for our Soldiers, their families and the communities in which we live,” said Lt. Gen. R. Scott Dingle, the U.S. Army Surgeon General. “Case counts and deaths continue to be concerning as the Delta variant spreads, which makes protecting the force through mandatory vaccination a health and readiness priority for the total Army.”

While soldiers who refuse the vaccine will first be counseled by their chain of command and medical providers, continued failure to comply could result in administrative or non-judicial punishment – to include relief of duties or discharge. Soldiers have the ability to request an exemption from receiving the vaccine, if they have a legitimate medical, religious or administrative reason. Soldiers who are pending exemption requests will not be subject to adverse actions until the exemption is fully processed.

Commanders, command sergeants major, first sergeants and officers in Command Select List (CSL) positions who refuse to be vaccinated - and are not pending an exemption request – face suspension and relief if they refuse to comply. Prior to any adverse action, each would be notified of the suspension and potential relief from their duties. They would then be counseled and provided the opportunity to be vaccinated before they would become subject to removal from their positions by a general officer.

Officers and noncommissioned officers who have been selected and are waiting to assume CSL command, key billet or nominative sergeant major positions – some of the most coveted assignments in the Army - will likewise be subject to removal from the list for those assignments should they refuse to be vaccinated without a pending or approved exemption.

Commanders will request a General Officer Memorandum of Reprimand be initiated for any Soldier who refuses to be vaccinated and does not have a pending or approved exemption request. Such reprimands can be career ending.

Active duty units are expected to be fully vaccinated by Dec. 15, 2021 and Reserve and National Guard units are expected to be fully vaccinated by June 30, 2022.

Soldiers may request administrative or medical exemptions as outlined in Army Regulation 600-20 and AR 40-562, as well as the new Army Directive 2021-33 that provides supplementary guidance on exemption requests.

Soldiers with previous COVID-19 infections are not automatically exempt from full vaccination and should consult their primary care managers. Soldiers pending exemption requests must continue to comply with all other applicable force health protection measures applicable to unvaccinated people.

Soldiers who have completed an FDA Emergency Use Authorization or World Health Organization-authorized series of vaccinations are fully vaccinated. Soldiers are only considered fully vaccinated two weeks post completion of a two*-dose series vaccine or two weeks post completion of a single dose vaccine.

In addition to the COVID-19 vaccine mandate and following CDC and DoD guidance, Army commanders will continue to update health protection protocols consistent with the local conditions of the communities in which they serve. The health protection of our force is a top priority, and we will continue to ensure that our personnel have the most up-to-date information on appropriate safety measures to prevent potential spread of the virus.

Soldiers with questions about the safety, effectiveness and possible side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine should discuss them with their health care provider.

For additional information, contact Lt. Col. Terence Kelley, U.S. Army Office of Public Affairs Office at 703-695-0378 or usarmy.pentagon.hqda-ocpa.mbx.mrd-press-desk@mail.mil.

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https://www.army.mil/article/250277/...s_for_soldiers

Badger52 09-15-2021 03:19

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Originally Posted by Razor (Post 671012)
Government civilian employees in DOD also can opt for weekly testing in lieu of getting vaccinated as well.

Sir, do you happen to know if there was a carve-out for dual-status Reserve Techs? Just curious.

Old Dog New Trick 09-15-2021 10:10

So the current scary headlines today from CNN are that 1 in 500 Americans have died from Covid!

That’s so refreshing to see that the numbers have gone from an estimated 0.4% to 0.2% we are making progress in the recognition and treatment of Covid (Wuhan Flu) since so many governors allowed their most vulnerable people to die last year.

Someday we may actually get the true numbers of people that died of Covid and not with Covid to adjust those numbers even lower…perhaps slightly worse than a normal Flu season.

Better to be one of the 499 people to live with or without being infected than the one person who not only got infected but unfortunately died.

Great job CNN!

Razor 09-15-2021 20:39

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Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 671021)
Sir, do you happen to know if there was a carve-out for dual-status Reserve Techs? Just curious.

Sorry, that issue wasn't addressed in our Command's memo. Our guidance states that everyone signs an attestation of whether they're already vaccinated or not (or they don't sign, and are assumed to not be vaxxed), uniformed military get the vax or face as yet unspecified 'disciplinary action', GS either get vaxxed or submit to weekly testing, and contractors get vaxxed or work through their companies to get tested weekly. The on-site contractor that's also a drilling Reservist in our office is already vaxxed, so I don't know how things would resolve if he wasn't.

Badger52 09-16-2021 06:10

Gotcha, thanks.

rsdengler 09-16-2021 12:48

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Originally Posted by Sohei (Post 670976)
Always remember ladies and gentlemen…once we lose rights, we very seldom ever get them back. Those that have seen the power that people have so easily turned over to “them” will fight to keep it. You have to determine your line in the sand. I sincerely feel for you guys that are working in this environment. I am retired and have it a lot easier when it comes to drawing those lines.

I need to work, I don't have a choice but I have been "disregarding" our work's mandatory mask wearing a bit and I will only go into the office 2 days until they drop that policy. I'm just waiting for my boss to pull me into her office, because they can write you up and suspend you without pay for a period of time. They are now renting trailers and setting them up in a location to test employees every week if they are not vaccinated. It’s a bit weird right now.

Box 09-18-2021 22:29

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Send in the murder hornets...
...or the riots
...or the mail-in ballots
...or the insurrectionists
...or UFO video clips
...or

Oh for fuck sake can somebody figure out something that will convince the American people that Saint Fauci isnt completely full of shit?

7624U 09-18-2021 23:04

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Originally Posted by Box (Post 671088)

Oh for fuck sake can somebody figure out something that will convince the American people that Saint Fauci isnt completely full of shit?

Global Warming caused low vaccination rates.

Old Dog New Trick 09-19-2021 04:03

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Originally Posted by 7624U (Post 671089)
Global Warming caused low vaccination rates.

Climate Change -

Come on Man, you have to have your “truth” over facts!







“Fact is the earth has been getting incrementally warmer since the end of the last ice age 60-million years ago, truth is it created much of what we call North America when the glaciers suddenly melted and significantly changed the landscape creating things like the Columbia River Gorges, Snake Canyon, the Colorado River and the Grand Canyon all at once!” (And I only finished second year college science and geology - PS Greenland wasn’t always covered in ice and Iceland is hardly covered at all.)

Badger52 09-19-2021 12:13

School Boards v. Electors
 
Quote is from the thread about the Service Academy boards but properly belongs here in the Chicom flu section, next to the lingerie.
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Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 671079)
My area is going through this particular kerfuffle right now, with far too many questioning regime dikta, including the quarantine regimen issued by the county PH office who, of course, are only deferring to "CDC guidance on the matter." The questions at the meeting (school is already underway) are far too logical for the comfort of some on school boards.

Primarily 2 different towns & school districts and, thus far, a couple of different approaches. It is getting pretty divisive in some quarters; which seems like a "plan coming together."

Apparently all I had to do was go run a small family-fun bass tournament yesterday to come back & find that one of the towns west of here already had one of the school board members resign (one who'd been all-in for mandate) after being told of a recall effort afoot. Oh, the ignominy! Iz dis a gveat kuntree or vut?

GratefulCitizen 09-19-2021 13:30

Hmmm…

They’re supposed to get vaccinated in order to prevent spreading the virus.
But they’re ordered to come to work if they refused to get vaccinated, until such time as they might be fired.

Wouldn’t they risk spreading the virus in the meanwhile?
It’s almost like getting vaccinated has nothing to do with stopping the spread…
:rolleyes:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fe...cid=uxbndlbing

Old Dog New Trick 09-19-2021 14:30

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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen (Post 671101)
Hmmm…

They’re supposed to get vaccinated in order to prevent spreading the virus.
But they’re ordered to come to work if they refused to get vaccinated, until such time as they might be fired.

Wouldn’t they risk spreading the virus in the meanwhile?
It’s almost like getting vaccinated has nothing to do with stopping the spread…
:rolleyes:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fe...cid=uxbndlbing

I think the comment: Tyranny.

Covers the most basic understanding of this presidential decree.

Are we there yet? When does the real “insurrection” start in earnest?

BTW, being vaccinated does little to nothing to prevent the spread of the virus. Another Fauci/CDC/Biden lie.


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