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Badger52 07-20-2022 04:03

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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen (Post 674467)
Here is the response to California’s motion:
https://assets.nationbuilder.com/fir..._Lift_Stay.pdf

Nice, thanks.

pcfixer 07-24-2022 08:04

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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK (Post 674377)
I'm very interested in how the courts, states, & congress will accept SCOTUS's ruling on "bureaucratic over-reach" as it pertains to ATF's Monstrosity??

Congress has shirked its duties for too long. Letting, No Encouraging sub-level bureaucrat minions rule the nation with little fear of the results. :mad::mad:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...-1530_n758.pdf

:) Like you post JJ. I think Bruen and WV vs EPA decision 20-1530 has not reached full potential in Legal review. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...-1530_n758.pdf
ATF’s new rulemaking 2021r-05f must be sued for totally invalid.
This... Page 3 of text.....

"EPA explained that the Clean Power Plan, rather than setting the standard “based on the application of equipment and practices at the level of an individual facility,” had instead based it on “a shift in the energy generation mix at the grid
level,” id., at 32523. The Agency determined that the interpretive
question raised by the Clean Power Plan fell under the major questions
doctrine.
Under that doctrine, it determined, a clear statement is necessary for a court to conclude that Congress intended to delegate authority “of this breadth to regulate a fundamental sector of the economy.” Id., at 32529. ""It found none"". The Agency replaced the Clean Power Plan by promulgating a different Section 111(d) regulation, known as the Affordable Clean Energy (ACE) rule. Id., at 32532. In
that rule, EPA determined that the BSER would be akin to building
block one of the Clean Power Plan: a combination of equipment upgrades and operating practices that would improve facilities’ heat rates. Id., at 32522, 32537."

Sure it invalidates the EPA. This same standard of review "Major Questions doctrine" can be said and surely will for the ATF.
https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regula...ceiver/summary

Surely this all falls under Supreme courts definition of "Text, History, Tradition"!

Badger52 07-24-2022 14:17

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Originally Posted by pcfixer (Post 674493)
Sure it invalidates the EPA. This same standard of review "Major Questions doctrine" can be said and surely will for the ATF.

It's why I smiled bigly when that EPA decision came down.

GratefulCitizen 07-24-2022 15:48

Dominoes are starting to fall from the Bruen decision.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...16528.18.0.pdf

From the TRO:

“The Court is sympathetic to the Town’s stated reasoning.
However, the Court is unaware of historical precedent that would permit a governmental entity to entirely ban a type of weapon that is commonly used by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes, whether in an individual’s home or in public.”

Badger52 07-24-2022 18:30

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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen (Post 674500)
Dominoes are starting to fall from the Bruen decision.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...16528.18.0.pdf

From the TRO:

“The Court is sympathetic to the Town’s stated reasoning.
However, the Court is unaware of historical precedent that would permit a governmental entity to entirely ban a type of weapon that is commonly used by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes, whether in an individual’s home or in public.”

Excellent. I especially enjoy the Judge's granting of the TRO based on their high likelihood of success at trial. It's a criteria normally seen and, in a lot of polite words, he shredded the city's position as "have some cheese with your whine."

pcfixer 07-25-2022 00:55

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Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 674502)
Excellent. I especially enjoy the Judge's granting of the TRO based on their high likelihood of success at trial. It's a criteria normally seen and, in a lot of polite words, he shreded the city's position as "have some cheese with your whine."

:thumbsup and I ROFLOL

GratefulCitizen 07-28-2022 17:20

GOA and 17 states take on ATF.

https://www.scag.gov/media/r3dhdlmk/...27-to-file.pdf


It’s important to note that the 17 states didn’t merely file amicus briefs.
The 17 states are actually plaintiffs.

GratefulCitizen 07-28-2022 23:28

Rocky Mountain Gun Owners challenges Colorado magazine ban in federal court.

https://rmgo.org/wp-content/uploads/...bComplaint.pdf

Badger52 07-29-2022 04:12

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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen (Post 674536)
GOA and 17 states take on ATF.

https://www.scag.gov/media/r3dhdlmk/...27-to-file.pdf


It’s important to note that the 17 states didn’t merely file amicus briefs.
The 17 states are actually plaintiffs.

The barristers need to continue bringing their A-game. The jungle of jargon is formidable, and it's not a pretty jungle like on a TV vacation prize. Judges need mentoring.

pcfixer 07-30-2022 08:59

:munchin:lifter

I'll will be interesting to know the Judges name on this!


Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen View Post
Dominoes are starting to fall from the Bruen decision.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...16528.18.0.pdf

bubba 07-30-2022 17:32

This is Pure Awesome
 
This is Pure AWESOME!

To see this in a law suit makes me happy….

“332. In other words, ATF has created an informal definition, within another informal definition, within a regulatory definition, within another regulatory definition, within a statutory definition, of a statutory term.

333. If that does not sum up the problems with this nation’s vast and unchecked administrative state, it is hard to see what would.”

God Bless the States that filed this!

GratefulCitizen 08-02-2022 20:15

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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen (Post 674467)
Miller v. Bonta was decided over a year ago and the California assault weapons ban was struck down.
California appealed and managed to get a stay on the lower court’s ruling.

After the recent SCOTUS ruling, there was a motion to lift the stay.
California wants the stay to be kept in place, the ruling vacated, and have the case remanded back to the district court.

This is just an attempt to stall.
The district court ruled using the correct test.

Here is the response to California’s motion:
https://assets.nationbuilder.com/fir..._Lift_Stay.pdf


The 9th circuit is enabling California’s stalling tactics.
Hopefully plaintiffs will seek an injunction

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/fir...pdf?1659399440

Badger52 08-03-2022 04:59

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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen (Post 674573)
The 9th circuit is enabling California’s stalling tactics.
Hopefully plaintiffs will seek an injunction

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/fir...pdf?1659399440

Thanks for continuing to track this.

JimP 08-03-2022 06:42

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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen (Post 674573)
The 9th circuit is enabling California’s stalling tactics.
Hopefully plaintiffs will seek an injunction

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/fir...pdf?1659399440

The Ninth circuit is THE most over-turned judicial district in the country. Basically, look to see what they are doing and then do the opposite, you'll be fine.

Box 08-03-2022 07:17

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Originally Posted by JimP (Post 674577)
The Ninth circuit is THE most over-turned judicial district in the country. Basically, look to see what they are doing and then do the opposite, you'll be fine.

That may be true - but conservative justices like John Roberts are why people in Vegas gamble on EVERYTHING - so, you never know...
After all, Obama Care is a tax - or its not a tax or it is a tax but not THAT kind of tax - whatever - its legal
...dont forget, Roberts was trying to talk the other conservatives out of voting down the Roe-v-Wade case until the leak forced his hand.


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