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LAW BAG
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I found a picture of the bag for all who were interested. I'm trying to find something similar for civilian use, mystery ranch has some options that look appealing/ similar. There are several features that I am looking for though, if someone thinks they can help please send me a PM and I will explain.
Thanks, Shock |
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I've humped the ALICE (large and medium), LOWE, CPF90, SPEARS and Blackhawk SOF. Never got issued the MOLLE. For winter warefare and mountains prefer the LOWE/SPF90 (resitched), Maritime Operations (F470, diving and surface swimming) hands down the ALICE. For sea kayaking prefer an internal frame but haven't found the right one yet. SPEARS just too heavy to start with. Got the Blackhawk SOF but didn't do much humping with it as it was usually mounted outside the DMV.
Average weight during my teams Desert Storm SR mission was 120-130 lbs with no resupply (plus 30+ lb LBE). One thrid of the weight was water and it all went inside/outside a large ALICE. CD |
I’m looking at getting a ruck for my day to day work in carrying my kit. I’m a cop, but have need to carry the following items day to day:
IBA (possibly with side SAPI and DAPS when deployed) ACH Gas mask (M50 type) Foul weather gear (APECS top and bottom) Cold weather gear (seasonal, but consists of the Level 3 fleece and typically other snivel tops and bottoms) 2 quart canteen Practice chem suit (JLIST type) with boots and gloves (mainly for exercises) Assorted other odds and ends (spare pouches, traffic vest, reflector belt, manuals, etc) I currently use an B4 flight bag, but I would like something with straps so I can carry it on my back if the need arises. Also, this would serve a double purpose as a deployment pack if I ever have need to carry in my basic load as I did going from Kuwait to Iraq with enough clothing/kit to last me up to seven days. Main use would be day to day carry on the job, but I would like the option of being able to use it for more than just throwing into a car trunk. I’ve used the CFP90, but it blew out and frankly I’ve seen more than my fair share of broken ones (typically the SDS ones) and don’t trust them. I have a SPEAR pack, but just about too complicated for a knuckle dragger like me and width wise it’s a stretch for cramming an IBA into. The ALICE is a possibility along with the MOLLE II, but was looking for something coyote brown or foliage, with personal preference on the ‘yote. I was looking at a Kifaru pack based on the reviews here as well as other sites and was hoping Mel or anyone else in the know might be able to point me at the right pack for the job. Total load should be in the range of 50-70 pounds with carrying the bulky items listed above, but I wouldn’t mind the capability for more. I was looking at the Navigator with the Pods system. Pod for the chem suit and the main pack for everything else. I also like the fact the Navigator has the full length zippers so I wouldn’t have to drag everything out to get at something on the bottom. Suggestions? |
Ruck Sack reccomendation.
You could consider a "MALICE" from Tactical Tailor. I had one for about 1.5 years and it lasted and worked well. I did have one seem rip but it was to my own fault and they repaired it free, just had to pay for both shipping ways. They also give LE/Mil discount which is great.
Kifaru is great I have had friends use them and love them and i do agree with the you get what you pay for, but to me IMHO they are not "the perfect ruck" by any means. Do you need MOLLE attachement capabilities? are you going to need to expand you load to include more stuff in the futur? |
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Thanks for the advice. |
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First post... Thought this reply would ad some interesting eye candy on the various ALICE "types" out there now.
~$lug http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/botach_2110_389786772 Blackhawk SOF: http://www.bdstacticalgear.com/prod_...ck_front21.jpg BDS mountain ruck: http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...LARGEALICE.jpg LARGE ALICE PACK http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...LICEMEDIUM.jpg MEDIUM ALICE PACK http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ALICERADIO.jpg RADIO MEDIUM ALICE PACK http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...CE/TTVER12.jpg TT MALICE PACK Version1-Version2 http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ICE/TTVER3.jpg TT MALICE PACK Version3 http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2.../HSGITRASH.jpg HSGI T.R.A.S.H. BAG http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...AGMOUNTAIN.jpg TAG GEAR MOUNTAIN RUCK http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...TIMBERWOLD.jpg MYSTERY RANCH TIMBERWOLF http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...BT10POCKET.jpg LONDON BRIDGE TRADING 10 POCKET |
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Let me ask you, just a wild guess, but have you bothered to read the board stickies and rules yet? TR |
I see many people talk about improvements to the ALICE frame and pack because it seems to be 1) the standard or trust worthiness, and 2) simple and familiar to almost EVERYONE. I have seen where some folks have referenced to the Mystery Ranch "NICE frame", and most agree it is just too pricy to even bother giving a try. I came across THIS more simple, WAAAY more cheap improved ALICE frame, and wonder if anyone has any input on it, from either personal experience and/or second hand knowledge:
http://www.tacticalassaultgearstore.com/aliceframe.aspx |
MOLLE on NICE?
Has anyone attempted to attach a MOLLE ruck to a NICE frame yet? I just picked up a used NICE frame, but I left my ALICE at home. I can get a hold of a MOLLE, not sure if it will work though.
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Reaper,
I did not read the opening guidelines and I do apologize for that. I have been a very long time lurker and had never thought to read them. (Bio updated, as well as first post left) Blender, The Molle pack will not work on a nice frame yet. However Mystery Ranch will soon be accepting packs for mods so that any will fit the nice frame. (Molle, ILBE, Etc.) I believe in the next few months. Masterofmyfate, TAG's frame is very nice but the ergonmics dont change at all. Im becoming a bigger fan of the down east frames. |
So I can mail it to them and they mob it to work with the MOLLE? Wonder how much that will cost. I'll probably just have my roomie mail the ALICE.
Thanks for the in for though, $lug. |
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