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D B Cooper's parachute?
http://www.columbian.com/news/localNews/2008/03/03252008_FBI-Tattered-parachute-found-in-north-Clark-County-may-have-been-DB-Coopers.cfm
Hmmmm.
That could be... Some kids playing on a river bank found some of the $$$ back in the 80's. The area was near where they were dredging the river. within the last 10 yrs, a parachute was found wrapped around a bridge support near the jump zone..
Having grown up in WA. The local legend is that D B Cooper shows up at the annual DB Cooper Day festivities in disguise..
D B Cooper was a misnomer.... I can't remember who, but someone added the middle initial. It was D Cooper who made the jump.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._B._Cooper
Ambush Master
03-25-2008, 20:56
I was questioned about this, a long ..........time ..........ago.......!
I think it's time to set the record straight........
I'm D.B Cooper
No wait......I'm Spartacus
Nevermind....carry on.
Team Sergeant
03-26-2008, 08:00
I was questioned about this, a long ..........time ..........ago.......!
Never fear the FBI is on the case..... even if they catch Cooper it will take another 25 years to bring the case to trial.....
Never fear the FBI is on the case..... even if they catch Cooper it will take another 25 years to bring the case to trial.....
Now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are.
So it looks like they only have a canopy.
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1206501906192100.xml&coll=7
Have not gone to the site to dig up the harness yet.
25 Years may be a little quick.
From the story an agent did go up there and poke around.
Nylon is pretty durable and parachutes make a mess if they are rolled and stuffed. Would be pretty hard to just get the canopy and nothing else even after all these years.
Tons of reserves and T-10 canopys in the surplus market, most with the lines cut off. I got one in the garage.
Ret10Echo
03-26-2008, 10:25
Some photos
http://wtop.com/?sid=1372316&nid=218
Looks to be in good condition. White?
Saw a lot of lines. That many and some should have been attached to the risers. Unless it was cut free, old or new cuts?
This is a typical news story, go for the bang and don't ask any real questions. Fluff.
bluenote
03-26-2008, 13:07
My father was a Naval Aviator based in Seattle in the early 50's. One day he took a cargo plane for a flight and couldn't get it to fly normally. He fought it until he landed and told Maintenance he felt it had a bent or twisted fuselage due to metal fatigue or a hard landing. You couldn't tell anything from routine pre-flight inspections. My father's "battle buddy", if Navy pilots have such a thing, went missing the next day flying the same plane. When he asked what happened, why wasn't the plane grounded, they told him they needed another pilots opinion on the problem. Their whole squadron searched for weeks. No plane, no chutes, nothing. The Pacific Northwest was underdeveloped then, but he always thought progress would turn up something. Maybe this is a different canopy then D.B. Coopers. BN.
bluenote
03-26-2008, 13:15
Also, Yahoo reports it was a Navy parachute manufactured in 1946. BN
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080326/ap_on_re_us/db_cooper;_ylt=Auu_0MCfugxH42FEToIDRl6s0NUE
Ret10Echo
03-26-2008, 13:16
Also, Yahoo reports it was a Navy parachute manufactured in 1946. BN
We'll see how long it takes the FBI to add 2 and 2
Never fear the FBI is on the case..... even if they catch Cooper it will take another 25 years to bring the case to trial.....
But they caught the Unabomber.....thats right his brother turned him in, my bad:D
Wait they caught Eric Rudolph, thats right a small town Cop caught him Dumpster Diving, Double my Bad:D
They assaulted the Branch Dividian Compound and captured all the Suspects, thats right they burnt it down and killed everyone, Triple my bad:eek:
Team Sergeant
03-28-2008, 11:58
But they caught the Unabomber.....thats right his brother turned him in, my bad:D
Wait they caught Eric Rudolph, thats right a small town Cop caught him Dumpster Diving, Double my Bad:D
They assaulted the Branch Dividian Compound and captured all the Suspects, thats right they burnt it down and killed everyone, Triple my bad:eek:
Come on be nice, look at this case, the FBI are "HOT" on the trail.......(after 6 1/2 years!) I'm betting any decade now they will catch the perp!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,342852,00.html
Ret10Echo
03-28-2008, 12:34
Come on be nice, look at this case, the FBI are "HOT" on the trail.......(after 6 1/2 years!) I'm betting any decade now they will catch the perp!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,342852,00.html
Sure...I mean there was that whole Ruby Ridge thing.....errr...uhmmmm...never mind
Surf n Turf
03-28-2008, 14:12
I was questioned about this, a long ..........time ..........ago.......!
Ambush Master,
Well, it appears that it was a well planned and superbly executed mission –
Who else would Fuller Brush Inc. immediately question ;)
SnT
Ret10Echo
04-02-2008, 11:08
Guess we wait some more....D.B., hope you are sitting on a beach in Mexico reading this and chuckling....
FBI: Parachute Isn't Hijacker Cooper's
April 2, 2008 - 5:18am
SEATTLE (AP) - A tangled, torn parachute found buried last month last month is not the one used by plane hijacker D.B. Cooper when he bailed out of a plane over the Pacific Northwest, the FBI said Tuesday. Investigators reached that conclusion after speaking with parachute experts, including Earl Cossey, who packed the chutes provided to Cooper that rainy November night in 1971.
"From the best we could learn from the people we spoke to, it just didn't look like it was the right kind of parachute in any way," said FBI spokeswoman Robbie Burroughs.
Further digging at the site in southwestern Washington turned up no indication that it could have been Cooper's, she added.
A man calling himself Dan Cooper _ later mistakenly identified as D.B. Cooper _ hijacked a Northwest Orient passenger jet from Portland, Ore., to Seattle on Nov. 24, 1971.
At Seattle-Tacoma International Airport, he released the passengers in exchange for $200,000 and four parachutes and asked to be flown to Mexico. He jumped out the back of the plane somewhere near the Oregon line.
Some of the cash has been found, but his fate is unknown, and investigators doubt he survived.
Children playing near a recently graded road found the parachute, and they urged their father to call the FBI because they had seen recent news stories about Cooper's case. The parachute was the right color, and the location was in the middle of what could have been Cooper's landing zone.
That got the attention of FBI agent Larry Carr, who drove to the site to see the find for himself.
But Cossey told Carr that Cooper's parachute was made of nylon. The one the children found was made of silk and did not feature a harness container. Cossey sold parachutes at a skydiving operation in Issaquah in the 1970s.
Cossey has been through the drill before; this is the third time the FBI has asked him to examine parachutes to see whether they might have been Cooper's.
One chute found long ago _ he couldn't remember when _ was just a "pilot chute," used to pull the main chute out of the pack. The other time, in 1988, it was a parachute found by a Columbia River diver seeking clues to Cooper's fate.
"They keep bringing me garbage," Cossey said. "Every time they find squat, they bring it out and open their trunk and say, 'Is that it?' and I say, 'Nope, go away.' Then a few years later they come back."
Cossey, though sounding cantakerous, appeared to relish the spotlight Tuesday. He answered his cell phone with "D.B. Cooper" and said he got a kick out of telling some reporters that the parachute was, in fact, the hijacker's.
One reporter called him back angrily, saying he could be fired for writing a false story, but another said the newsroom enjoyed the April Fool's joke.
"I'm getting mixed reviews," Cossey said. "But I'm having fun with it; what the heck."
Team Sergeant
04-02-2008, 12:18
Here's the funny part, someone finds a chute takes to the FBI, FBI takes chute to the guy that packed Coopers chute and gave the orginal chutes to the FBI to give to Cooper.
Its take Mr. Cossey 2 seconds to tell the FBI that's not Coopers chute but it takes the FBI a month to "determine it's not Coopers chute".:rolleyes:
And all the FBI agents are college grads?:rolleyes:
HEY Mr. Cooper, please write to us here at ProfessionalSoldiers.com and let us know if you're still alive!
We also want to know if you were a former SF soldier.
Team Sergeant
But Cossey told Carr that Cooper's parachute was made of nylon. The one the children found was made of silk and did not feature a harness container.
I find this interesting in that the date on the chute was 1946, and I thought that by that time most military chutes were being made of nylon due to silk shortages during the war. Live and learn.
Ret10Echo
08-02-2011, 04:52
This is a story that has always intrigued me. Honestly, I hope they never figure out who did it.
SEATTLE (Reuters) - Four decades after a skyjacker dubbed D.B. Cooper bailed out of a U.S. jetliner in mid-air and vanished with $200,000 in cash, federal agents are pursuing new clues pointing to a suspect they believe is long dead, an FBI spokesman said on Tuesday.
The latest lead in the case originated with a source in law enforcement, who directed agents to a person who was close to the suspect and obtained objects now being analyzed to see if they bear fingerprints matching those left by the hijacker on the plane, said Frederick Gutt, FBI special agent in Seattle.
Gutt declined to reveal the law enforcement source, the person the FBI was led to, or the deceased individual whose fingerprints were being examined.
Full story here (http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-pursues-clues-1971-d-b-cooper-hijack-002039593.html)
The FBI is investigating a lead in an unsolved 1970s skyjacking where the hijacker escaped by parachuting out of a plane at night with $200,000 in cash and disappeared.
The lead in the legendary "D.B. Cooper" case points to a man who died 10 years ago, the FBI said.
If the man -- who investigators declined to identify -- is found to be the hijacker, it would mean he lived for some 30 years after the robbery and then died of natural causes.
"It's not so much new information. It retained our attention about one year ago, and we've been working on it since then. It's one of the active leads for that investigation," FBI spokesman Frederick Gutt said.
Full story here (http://news.yahoo.com/lead-1970s-us-skyjacking-case-031310957.html)
Oldrotorhead
08-02-2011, 08:20
But they caught the Unabomber.....thats right his brother turned him in, my bad:D
Wait they caught Eric Rudolph, thats right a small town Cop caught him Dumpster Diving, Double my Bad:D
They assaulted the Branch Dividian Compound and captured all the Suspects, thats right they burnt it down and killed everyone, Triple my bad:eek:
You are much to critical of the FBI. They caught Whitey Bolger right away! OH wait, is wasn't right away and it wasn't the FBI that found him.:D
It just leaked out that the "Cooper" suspect has been ID'd as a deceased teamster union boss named "Jimmy Hoffa".
mark46th
08-02-2011, 10:19
I was in the 5th Group in 1971 at Ft Bragg. I remember a couple of the guys saying that the sketch looked familiar... That being said, $200,000 was a lot of money back then. Nowadays, that covers a couple of first class vacations...
Team Sergeant
08-02-2011, 10:24
I was in the 5th Group in 1971 at Ft Bragg. I remember a couple of the guys saying that the sketch look familiar... That being said, $200,000 was a lot of money back then. Nowadays, that covers a couple of first class vacations...
You were in 5th Gp, I was in 5th Grade.....;)
After looking at the sketch I think it was Ambush Master...:D
Never fear the FBI is on the case..... even if they catch Cooper it will take another 25 years to bring the case to trial.....
Or his brother hands him over
Why are they even spending Money, Time and Man power on this. Aren't there more important things to be addressed.
Parachutist magazine did a great multipart series on the D. B. Cooper story last year. Check it out on the USPA web site and hit the Parachutist button. You'll find it in the most commonly viewed list.
This news story should have never risen to the level of news. I got my Rigger's license in the early 70's and at that time the FAA regs required a silk parachute to have the lines cut off -even if never used- seven years (as I recall) after the date of manufacture. So there should have been no silk parachutes in service when Cooper jumped. The fact that it was a silk parachute automaticaly excluded it from being Cooper's.
The area safety officer (ASO) for the USPA in Hawaii was a guy named Dave Thompson who the the FBI seemed to think was a good fit for Cooper. He did the stunt jumps for the movie The Gypsy Moths. (They shot the low pull several times until he finally said no more). Fortunately for Dave he had a great alibi for the date of the hijacking!
Oops, left out an important fact. The last silk parachute made in America was in the mid-fifties and would have been out of service by the mid-sixties.
Parachutist magazine did a great multipart series on the D. B. Cooper story last year. Check it out on the USPA web site and hit the Parachutist button. You'll find it in the most commonly viewed list.
That was a cool article reading about Cooper, the equipment, and how airplane travel was back then!!!
They also did a follow up article with some SF guy who did something similiar but got caught a few days later.
Team Sergeant
08-02-2011, 16:18
Parachutist magazine did a great multipart series on the D. B. Cooper story last year. Check it out on the USPA web site and hit the Parachutist button. You'll find it in the most commonly viewed list.
This news story should have never risen to the level of news. I got my Rigger's license in the early 70's and at that time the FAA regs required a silk parachute to have the lines cut off -even if never used- seven years (as I recall) after the date of manufacture. So there should have been no silk parachutes in service when Cooper jumped. The fact that it was a silk parachute automaticaly excluded it from being Cooper's.
The area safety officer (ASO) for the USPA in Hawaii was a guy named Dave Thompson who the the FBI seemed to think was a good fit for Cooper. He did the stunt jumps for the movie The Gypsy Moths. (They shot the low pull several times until he finally said no more). Fortunately for Dave he had a great alibi for the date of the hijacking!
"The Gypsy Moths" talk about a crazy movie.....Soon after I graduated Military Free Fall school we watched this movie, amazing. My favorite was that guy that jumped with like seven reserves and deployed them all......
I still think DB Cooper was alive and well after his jump....
What say you Ambush Master?:munchin
Ambush Master
08-02-2011, 16:55
You were in 5th Gp, I was in 5th Grade.....;)
After looking at the sketch I think it was Ambush Master...:D
Like I said earlier, I was questioned at length!!
"The Gypsy Moths" talk about a crazy movie.....Soon after I graduated Military Free Fall school we watched this movie, amazing. My favorite was that guy that jumped with like seven reserves and deployed them all......
I still think DB Cooper was alive and well after his jump....
What say you Ambush Master?:munchin
I concur.
Later
Martin
I personally think the guy went in during the heist.
Of course, I personally think UBL has been dead for a few years, too.
Come to think of it, I might still be correct on both counts...:D
mark46th
08-02-2011, 17:39
TS- I went to my nephew's ROTC graduation up at Pacific Lutheran near Ft Lewis. I saw this young Pinoy kid in blues running around giving orders. I walked by him and noticed Silver Oak Leafs on his Uniform. He was the ROTC Advisor. If I had seen him on the street, I would have sworn he was no more than 18 years old. I guess I really am a FOG.
Holyfire23
08-02-2011, 21:00
He's probably in Pakistan. I don't think FBI's most wanted carries much weight over there.:rolleyes:
HEY Mr. Cooper, please write to us here at ProfessionalSoldiers.com and let us know if you're still alive!
We also want to know if you were a former SF soldier.
Team Sergeant
You're thinking of Richard McCoy, a Cooper 'Copy Cat".
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_McCoy,_Jr.
Richard McCoy, Jr.
Richard Floyd McCoy, Jr.
Born, December 7, 1942
Kinston, North Carolina
Died, November 9, 1974 (aged 31)
Virginia Beach, Virginia
Charge(s), Aircraft piracy
Penalty, 45 years incarceration
Richard Floyd McCoy, Jr. (December 7, 1942 – November 9, 1974) was an American aircraft hijacker.
McCoy hijacked a United Airlines passenger jet for ransom in 1972. Due to a similar modus operandi, law enforcement officials named McCoy as a suspect for the still-unidentified "D. B. Cooper," who committed his unsolved crime four months before McCoy.
McCoy was born December 7, 1942, in the town of Kinston, North Carolina, and grew up in nearby Cove City. In 1962 McCoy moved to Provo, Utah, and enrolled at Brigham Young University (BYU) before dropping out to serve a two-year tour of duty in the Army. He served in Vietnam as a demolition expert and pilot[1] and was awarded the Purple Heart in 1964.
In 1965 McCoy returned to BYU, where he met Karen Burns. They married in August 1965 in Raleigh. By 1971 they had two children, Chanti and Richard.
McCoy served another term in the Army on the condition he go to Vietnam, where he was awarded both the Army Commendation Medal and Distinguished Flying Cross. Upon returning to Utah, he served as a warrant officer in the Utah National Guard and was an avid skydiver.[2]
McCoy taught Mormon Sunday school and studied law enforcement at BYU. His purported dream was to become an FBI or CIA agent.
[edit] Criminal career
Same modus operandi as D. B. Cooper
On April 7, 1972, McCoy boarded United Airlines Flight 855 under the alias "James Johnson" during a stopover in Denver, Colorado. The aircraft was a Boeing 727 with aft stairs (the same equipment used in the D. B. Cooper incident), via which McCoy escaped in mid-flight by parachute after giving the crew similar instructions as Cooper had. McCoy had obtained a $500,000 cash ransom, and carried a novelty grenade and an empty pistol.
Police began investigating McCoy following a tip from a motorist. The driver had picked up McCoy hitch-hiking at a fast-food restaurant, where McCoy was wearing a jumpsuit and carrying a duffel bag. McCoy also had described to an acquaintance how easy it would be to carry out such a hijacking.[3]
Following fingerprint and handwriting matches, McCoy was arrested two days after the hijacking. Ironically, McCoy was on National Guard duty flying one of the helicopters involved in the search for the hijacker. Inside his house, FBI agents found a jumpsuit and a duffel bag filled with cash totaling $499,970.[1]
McCoy claimed innocence, but was convicted of the hijacking[4] and received a 45-year sentence.[5] Once incarcerated at the Federal penitentiary at Lewisburg, Pennsylvania, McCoy used his access to the prison's dental office in order to fashion a fake handgun out of dental paste ("The FBI Files" episode "Flight From Justice -- The Story of D.B. Cooper"). He and a crew of convicts escaped on August 10, 1974 by commandeering a garbage truck and crashing it through the prison's main gate.[6]
Three months later the FBI located McCoy in Virginia Beach, Virginia. News reports stated that on November 9, 1974, McCoy walked into his home and was met by FBI agents;[7] he fired at them, and an agent fired back with a shotgun, killing McCoy.[8]
[edit] Lawsuits over Cooper allegations
1991 saw the publication of D. B. Cooper: The Real McCoy, by FBI agents Bernie Rhodes and Russell P. Calame. Both authors investigated McCoy's skyjacking case, and their book posits that Cooper and McCoy were really the same person. They cited similar methods of hijacking, and a tie and Brigham Young University medallion with McCoy's initials on the back left on the plane by Cooper.
After the book's publication, McCoy's widow filed suit against the book's authors, publisher and her former attorney, Thomas S. Taylor. She claimed they misrepresented her involvement in the hijacking for which McCoy was convicted, and also misrepresented later events from interviews done with Taylor in the 1970s. She sought an injunction against publication and distribution of the book.[9]
During court proceedings, it was revealed that McCoy's widow was deeply involved in the hijacking. Her request for an injunction to prohibit further sales of the book was denied. However, an injunction to prohibit the sale of movie rights to the book — conditional upon the movie including references to four specific allegations in the book that she protested — was granted.[10] Mrs. McCoy accepted a settlement in 1994.[11]
Utah Bob
08-03-2011, 08:20
TS- I went to my nephew's ROTC graduation up at Pacific Lutheran near Ft Lewis. I saw this young Pinoy kid in blues running around giving orders. I walked by him and noticed Silver Oak Leafs on his Uniform. He was the ROTC Advisor. If I had seen him on the street, I would have sworn he was no more than 18 years old. I guess I really am a FOG.
Yeah well we may be FOGs but we're still.....
Wait. What were we talking about again??
AngelsSix
08-03-2011, 10:01
A woman claiming to be the niece of infamous
skyjacker D.B. Cooper has spoken to ABC News in an
exclusive interview about her role in the recently re-
ignited 40-year-old cold case that has haunted the
FBI for years.
Marla Cooper told ABC News that she has provided
the FBI with a guitar strap and a Christmas photo of a
man pictured with the same strap who she says is her
uncle, Lynn Doyle Cooper.
After clarifying her childhood memories surrounding
the incident and more recent conversations with her
parents, she is now sure that her uncle is in fact the
notorious man who hijacked and threatened to blow
up a commercial plane flying to Seattle in 1971, then
parachuted to the ground with $200,000 in hand.
"I'm certain he was my uncle, Lynn Doyle Cooper. Who
we called L.D. Cooper," she told ABC News.
Story continues here: http://abcnews.go.com/US/db-cooper-exclusive-niece-provide-key-evidence/story?id=14219052
"I'm certain he was my uncle, Lynn Doyle Cooper. Who
we called L.D. Cooper," she told ABC News.
Just before 'ole LD asked the question..."what did you say the going book and movie royalty rates were again?"
;)
1stindoor
08-03-2011, 14:50
"I'm certain he was my uncle, Lynn Doyle Cooper. Who
we called L.D. Cooper," she told ABC News.
Just before 'ole LD asked the question..."what did you say the going book and movie royalty rates were again?"
;)
I'm not sure what the going rate is...the bigger question is can Treat Williams still turn in a sad performance?
I'm not sure what the going rate is...the bigger question is can Treat Williams still turn in a sad performance?
I can answer that one...yes.
1stindoor
08-09-2011, 10:32
Another lead gone cold...poor FBI.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2011/0809/D.B.-Cooper-skyjack-Latest-lead-goes-cold-and-the-legend-lives-on
greenberetTFS
08-09-2011, 10:47
Yeah well we may be FOGs but we're still.....
Wait. What were we talking about again??
Life's a bitch isn't it?......Wait until people start finishing your sentences for you because you can't,then you know your FOG qualifed.........:(
Big Teddy :munchin
I would think anybody cunning enough to pull off that stunt would be too cunning to use his last name, anyway.
Ret10Echo
08-11-2011, 10:48
The book is now available online at Amazon...
U.S. finds timeless escape in D.B. Cooper hijacking
Paul D. Shinkman, wtop.com
WASHINGTON -- New insights into one of the country's most famous unsolved mysteries show a man who fought the system 40 years ago is still as relevant today.
Geoff Gray, a crime and features writer, went on sabbatical from New York magazine in 2007 to delve deeper into the D.B. Cooper case, the popularity of which he said is due to the striking similarities between that enigmatic night in 1971 and the present day. His book, "Skyjack: The Hunt for D.B. Cooper" was released Tuesday.
Article on WTOP here (http://wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2491179)
Life's a bitch isn't it?......Wait until people start finishing your sentences for you because you can't,then you know your FOG qualifed.........:(
Big Teddy :munchin
I believe that's when a FOG becomes is awarded the V prefix....VFOG!!
Ret10Echo
11-24-2011, 08:14
Happy Anniversary D.B.
Ret10Echo
11-24-2015, 04:18
Another year goes by.....
Gold Eagle
11-24-2015, 09:27
Any closer to catching him. I'm not familiar with statue of limitations. Time up?
Mass 727 jump :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0p02jI4o3g
Team Sergeant
11-24-2015, 16:18
Mass jump? More like a static line jump without the cord.
I've doe a mass jump (70 jumpers) off a C-141, tailgate with 5-8 guys going off the tail at the same time. By the time it got to me I was at a dead run. It literally took seconds for all of us to exit. That was a mass jump.....;)
UWOA (RIP)
11-24-2015, 16:28
D B Cooper's parachute?
http://www.columbian.com/news/localNews/2008/03/03252008_FBI-Tattered-parachute-found-in-north-Clark-County-may-have-been-DB-Coopers.cfm
Hmmmm.
That's not where I left it ....
.
Guymullins
11-24-2015, 23:01
If it was a nylon canopy, and had been subjected to sunlight over the years, it would likely have disintegrated by now. The early C9 type chutes had no UV protection. On the other hand, my first piggy-back rig had a Navy conical reserve. When I bought it, the seller showed me the packing card that showed that the reserve had just been re-packed . I put around 100 jumps on it before I sent it in for a re-pack. The rigger called me to come have a look at the reserve. The taffeta, on handling turned to powder in your hands. It was totally disintegrating in the pack.Only the lines had any integrity.This was a WW2 reserve being used in the mid seventies.
Ret10Echo
07-13-2016, 09:30
Blue Skies DB...
FBI Seattle
July 12, 2016
Public Affairs Specialist Ayn Dietrich-Williams
(206) 622-0460
Following one of the longest and most exhaustive investigations in our history, on July 8, 2016, the FBI redirected resources allocated to the D.B. Cooper case in order to focus on other investigative priorities. During the course of the 45-year NORJAK investigation, the FBI exhaustively reviewed all credible leads, coordinated between multiple field offices to conduct searches, collected all available evidence, and interviewed all identified witnesses. Over the years, the FBI has applied numerous new and innovative investigative techniques, as well as examined countless items at the FBI Laboratory. Evidence obtained during the course of the investigation will now be preserved for historical purposes at FBI Headquarters in Washington, D.C.
FBI Press Release HERE (https://www.fbi.gov/seattle/press-releases/2016/update-on-investigation-of-1971-hijacking-by-d.b.-cooper)
Team Sergeant
07-13-2016, 11:17
Blue Skies DB...
FBI Press Release HERE (https://www.fbi.gov/seattle/press-releases/2016/update-on-investigation-of-1971-hijacking-by-d.b.-cooper)
Finally I'm safe!!!!!
(Ok maybe I was only 11 at the time ;))
2018commo
07-13-2016, 17:27
A young Bill Otley?
Oldrotorhead
07-13-2016, 17:43
Well the safest place he could have been hiding was behind Hoover's wardrobe.:D
http://patriotupdate.com/j-edgar-hoover-was-not-gay-fbi-warned-clint-eastwood-and-leonardo-dicaprio-about-portrayal-in-new-film/
And
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/edgar-hoover-sex-men-homosexual/story?id=14948447
Ethel Merman, who had known Hoover since 1938, knew his sexual orientation, according to Summers. In 1978 when the actress was asked to comment on Anita Bryant's anti-gay campaign, Merman told the reporter, "Some of my best friends are homosexual. Everybody knew about J. Edgar Hoover, but he was the best chief the FBI ever had."
Harry Hay, founder of the Mattachine Society, one of the first gay rights organizations, confirmed that Hoover and Tolson sat in boxes owned by and used exclusively by gay men at their racing haunt Del Mar in California.
"They were nodded together as lovers," he told Summers.
Another FBI agent who had gone on fishing trips with Hoover and Tolson revealed that the director liked to "sunbathe all day in the nude." Even novelist William Styron told Summers that he once spotted Hoover and Tolson in a California beach house -- the director painting his friends toenails.
But, according to Summers, "Nobody dared say anything, he was so powerful."
The author interviewed the widow of respected Washington, D.C. psychiatrist Dr. Marshall de G. Ruffin, who treated Hoover in 1946 after his general practitioner had been "puzzled by a strange malaise in his patient."
Ambush Master has been MIA here for a couple of weeks now. Coincidence . . . ? :eek:
Pat
Ret10Echo
01-16-2017, 07:15
The legend lives on....
Leave it to a group that calls itself the Citizen Sleuths to uncover a new lead in the 45-year hunt for D.B. Cooper.
The three amateur scientists have found rare-Earth elements on the JCPenney tie the infamous skyjacker left behind when he jumped out of a commercial airplane on a blistering night in 1971, with $200,000 in unmarked bills, a parachute, and a raincoat. The sleuths say the elements could indicate Cooper was an engineer or manager in the aerospace industry.
Full Story here (https://www.yahoo.com/news/d-b-cooper-boeing-worker-164807079.html)
Interesting angle... Of course someone could have picked up the tie at a secondhand store.
Everybody needs a hobby, and I'm entertained by the "ongoing investigation" by amateurs even after the FBI quit.
A "blistering night"? :confused: In late November?
A Boeing employee, no doubt. ;)
ETA: Well, he was responsible for the Cooper Vane. :D
Pat
Divemaster
01-16-2017, 20:23
The legend lives on....
Full Story here (https://www.yahoo.com/news/d-b-cooper-boeing-worker-164807079.html)
Interesting angle... Of course someone could have picked up the tie at a secondhand store.
Everybody needs a hobby, and I'm entertained by the "ongoing investigation" by amateurs even after the FBI quit.
The show Expedition Unknown paid for, or facilitated, the lab test on the tie. Their D.B. Cooper episode aired a few nights ago. In it, they talk with a retired FBI agent (and 82nd ABN veteran) who believes Cooper, while lowering the stairs over Washington, actually jumped much closer to the refueling stop in Reno in what is much friendlier terrain.
http://www.travelchannel.com/shows/expedition-unknown/video/on-the-trail-of-d-b-cooper
Ret10Echo
08-14-2017, 15:06
A story that just keeps getting new legs...
Physical evidence that may be connected to the unsolved 1971 D.B. Cooper hijacking case is now in the hands of FBI agents in California.
The “evidence” -- a frayed 18-inch-long nylon strap that may have come from the parachute D.B. Cooper used when he escaped from a plane with $200,000 -- was found in a mound of dirt in the deep Pacific Northwest mountains nearly two weeks ago. It was turned in Friday to the FBI’s Ventura County office by acclaimed D.B. Cooper sleuth Tom Colbert, a Los Angeles TV and film producer
Full story here (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/14/db-cooper-mystery-new-evidence-uncovered-in-search-presented-to-fbi.html)
Team Sergeant
08-14-2017, 16:05
Given the altitude that DB Cooper made the jump, and the wad of money found in the river, I'd just made what, a mile (maybe two) circle from that wad of money that came from the duffle bag and find the body hanging in the trees or in a nice hole he made upon impact.
Jumping in a thunderstorm..... I can see him wrapped up in his own parachute screaming all the way down......
DB is dead....... so is the story, unless you're a moronic reality TV producer looking to cash in.
TacOfficer
08-14-2017, 18:10
No he made it. He jumped where he did because DB Cooper is really Bigfoot. He shaved his hair, got some cosmetic surgery and made the jump and lived. After the jump he just grew his hair out and went back to laying low. Come on anyone looking at the fact can put that together. The FBI knows it but were covering it up because they don't want the truth coming out because Bigfoot had photo evidence of how they killed JFK. :munchin
As a matter of fact, he had to steal the money to cover the cost of the surgery. It was the extreme make over that went sideways.
2018commo
08-14-2017, 19:41
DB Cooper was really Bill Otley, the Operation saved the USPA...
bblhead672
08-15-2017, 08:33
No he made it. He jumped where he did because DB Cooper is really Bigfoot. He shaved his hair, got some cosmetic surgery and made the jump and lived. After the jump he just grew his hair out and went back to laying low. Come on anyone looking at the fact can put that together. The FBI knows it but were covering it up because they don't want the truth coming out because Bigfoot had photo evidence of how they killed JFK. :munchin
So you're saying that wasn't Bigfoot on the grassy knoll?
rsdengler
08-15-2017, 10:58
So you're saying that wasn't Bigfoot on the grassy knoll?
Damn...there goes my theory.....:munchin
1stindoor
08-15-2017, 12:06
So you're saying that wasn't Bigfoot on the grassy knoll?
Actually, that was Bigfoot!...You see, Bigfoot was using his own hair as a ghillie suit and when the shooters hid behind him, he was effectively stuck.
Team Sergeant
08-15-2017, 13:33
Actually, that was Bigfoot!...You see, Bigfoot was using his own hair as a ghillie suit and when the shooters hid behind him, he was effectively stuck.
I know how that feels, having someone take up a position right next to where you're prone in your ghillie.........:munchin
DB Cooper is dead.
Ret10Echo
05-18-2018, 05:35
DB Cooper is dead.
Yeah, Yeah, I know...but this is just too fun to watch :munchin
Sort of a modern version of Butch Cassidy's alleged death in Bolivia
But hey, maybe it sells a few books and the guy makes a couple dollars.
A new ‘D.B. Cooper’ suspect? Yet another possible identity for elusive hijacker.
On Thursday, a whole new theory emerged from Carl Laurin, an 84-year-old pet sitter who lives in DeLand, Fla. Laurin, his Michigan publishing firm announced at a news conference, has written a memoir detailing the confessions of a longtime friend who supposedly committed the crime: Walter R. Reca, a former military paratrooper and intelligence operative.
Here (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/a-new-%e2%80%98db-cooper%e2%80%99-suspect-yet-another-possible-identity-for-elusive-hijacker/ar-AAxruzd?ocid=ientp)
Team Sergeant
05-18-2018, 11:07
Yeah, Yeah, I know...but this is just too fun to watch :munchin
Sort of a modern version of Butch Cassidy's alleged death in Bolivia
But hey, maybe it sells a few books and the guy makes a couple dollars.
Here (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/a-new-%e2%80%98db-cooper%e2%80%99-suspect-yet-another-possible-identity-for-elusive-hijacker/ar-AAxruzd?ocid=ientp)
Agree.
Another idiot hack and one more moron that thinks he'll make a buck off of bigfoot stories.
DB Cooper is long dead...…. he died in 1971 while "parachuting" from a jet in a thunderstorm. You can only perform that trick once. One day they will find the remains of his parachute/bones on the ground under a large tree that he landed in and hung himself while trying to release the parachute.
;)
miclo18d
05-18-2018, 17:57
Agree.
Another idiot hack and one more moron that thinks he'll make a buck off of bigfoot stories.
DB Cooper is long dead...…. he died in 1971 while "parachuting" from a jet in a thunderstorm. You can only perform that trick once. One day they will find the remains of his parachute/bones on the ground under a large tree that he landed in and hung himself while trying to release the parachute.
;)
The true constants surrounding DB are (and both end in -ity): gravity and stupidity. I’m sure someone will find someone’s happy sock out in the woods and claim it was DB Cooper’s.
BTW, my dog’s name is Cooper! (Named because he was rescued, living in a chicken coop)
Dean Jarvis
05-19-2018, 18:26
A guy by the name of Larry Patterson who was part owner of a skydiving club I belonged to in Cedar Valley Utah was rumored to be DB Cooper. He was a pilot and skydiver. He was a friend of Richard McCoy who was the second person to attempt a skyjacking. They both flew helicopters for the Utah NG. When anyone would call him out as DB Cooper he would just laugh but never denied it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_McCoy_Jr.
And now a new lead from Forensic <Magazine:
https://goo.gl/oUB5G2
Colbert says he has put together 40 volunteers, many of them former FBI agents, who reviewed six letters potentially connected to the Cooper case.
Colbert recruited Rick Sherwood, a Vietnam veteran who was a senior codebreaker for the Army Security Agency. Sherwood had been Rackstraw’s superior officer.
His conclusion: a series of strangely-worded phrases in the D.B. Cooper letters actually spell out Rackstraw’s name. The FBI agents would have not known what they were looking for in the 1970s, Sherwood concluded.
“It would have made no sense to them,” Sherwood said, in a statement from the team. “For the agents to do it, they’d have to know a lot about the individual and our units.”
The ciphers in the letters allegedly identify the military units that Rackstraw served in: the 371st Radio Research Unit, and the 11th General Support Company—as well as the Army Security Agency.
But the sixth letter, from March 28, 1972, and sent to the Oregonian newspaper, contained even more information.
“I want out of the system and saw a way through good ole Unk,” it reads. “(And please tell the lackey cops D.B. Cooper is not my real name).”
Translated, using a 1950 Army cryptography, it is decoded to a startling message, according to Colbert and his team:
“I want out of the system and saw a way by sky-jacking a jet plane,” it reads. “I am 1st LT Robert Rackstraw, D.B. Cooper is not my real name.”
Could the messages be a coincidence that was identified only once they had focused in on Rackstraw? Sherwood says potentially—but not likely.
“It’s not impossible,” Sherwood told The Oregonian newspaper earlier this year. “But what are the odds these digits would add up to these three Rackstraw units? Astronomical. A million to one. Rackstraw didn’t think anyone would be able to break it.”
Rackstraw, for his part, dismissed Colbert—“he’s costing the taxpayers a lot of money”—and also his former Army colleague Sherwood.
“The other guy—it’s kind of interesting that he said that,” he said.
But he does have respect for how good investigators were in the 1970s, he said.
"The old FBI was very, very thorough,” he said. “Way back when—full faith and credit in an agency like that. They were very, very, very good. I would say that they still are ... probably a lot of them are gritting their teeth at what’s going on currently with their top end—their upper management.”
As for the coming defamation court battles, the outcome will remain to be seen, Rackstraw added.
“All off that stuff is up in the air,” he said.
Team Sergeant
06-29-2018, 16:59
It's amazing!!!!
(Not)
Make up a narrative after all involved are dead and then get 6 people to agree on it, make a movie and pocket a few million.
Soon a tree will fall that holds the remains of one DB Cooper........
Ret10Echo
06-30-2018, 05:23
Prester John
King Arthur
Robin Hood
DB Cooper
Why not? :D
It's amazing!!!!
Soon a tree will fall that holds the remains of one DB Cooper........
Bigfoot makes trees fall all the time according to the experts.
What if Bigfoot finds the remains of DB Cooper first. :D
DB Cooper had a sex change and is working in the snack bar at SOCOM. She is broke. Mystery solved. NEXT!
miclo18d
06-30-2018, 10:20
Bigfoot makes trees fall all the time according to the experts.
What if Bigfoot finds the remains of DB Cooper first. :D
Bigfoot IS D.B. Cooper!
Bigfoot IS D.B. Cooper!
Yes D.B. = Duh Bigfoot of Cooper Mountain. mystery solved.
Ret10Echo
01-31-2021, 14:45
DB Cooper suspect who said 'FBI had good reason to suspect me' dies
Some mysteries are better unsolved.
Daily Mail (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/db-cooper-suspect-who-said-fbi-had-good-reason-to-suspect-me-dies/ar-BB1df862?ocid=msedgntp)
A key suspect in the DB Cooper skyjacking case who once boasted 'the FBI had good reason to suspect me' has died aged 94, potentially taking the secret about the culprit's true identity to the grave.
Sheridan Peterson was one of the chief suspects in the notorious 1971 hijacking of a flight from Portland, Oregon, to Seattle where a man - known only as Dan ‘DB’ Cooper - claimed he had a bomb in his briefcase, swindled $200,000 ransom money from authorities then parachuted from the plane never to be seen again.
tom kelly
01-31-2021, 16:11
Especially if the "FBI" is involved. Remember who started & directed this agency up to the day he died.
There is a rumor that Ted Braden a SOG operator who went AWOL might have been DB Coopper.
"One of the most intriguing aspects of the resurgent investigation of DB Cooper in recent years is the information provided by commandos from Vietnam, now that their covert activities have been de-classified.
Plenty of troopers from the Special Operations Group of the Materials Assistance Command-Vietnam are talking to journalists and writing their own accounts of the illegal wars fought in Laos, Cambodia and North Vietnam during the larger conflict in South Vietnam from 1962-1975.
Two topics come blaring forward. First, the DB Cooper skyjacking has all the hallmarks of a SOG operation in terms of the planning, equipment and execution. Secondly, two leading commanders of SOG units, SgtM Billy Waugh and Major John Plaster say that within their ranks a rogue SOG trooper by the name of Ted Braden is widely thought to be DB Cooper.
Braden’s military career is filled with mystery and intrigue, including the assertions by some in his command that he was a professional intimate of General John Singlaub, one of the founders of the CIA and a leading figure in the Iran-Contra affair during the 1980s. Further, after Braden went AWOL in Vietnam in 1966 and was caught by the CIA trying to join the commando forces in the Congo civil war, he was incarcerated at Fort Dix, NJ. According to the officer responsible for inmates at Dix, Braden was later released by the personal intercession of the Army Chief of Staff, General Harold Johnson.
Braden’s whereabouts afterward are still hotly debated.
This picture is from Ramparts magazine, in an article they published about Sgt Braden’s exploits in Africa. Sadly, Ramparts ceased publication in 1975."
Read Bruce A. Smith post
https://www.thedbcooperforum.com/db-cooper/suspects-and-confessions/915/
https://www.amazon.com/Paratrooper-Fortune-Commando-Operative-Mercenary-ebook/dp/B08BY5N3SH