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Hi
I'm looking for a new GPS, I seen seals etc.. using the GARMIN foretrex series. Wonder if any of you have any experience with it?
or do should I go for something else?
Thanks for any help:)
Regards
-T
The Reaper
07-15-2006, 16:27
Hi
I'm looking for a new GPS, I seen seals etc.. using the GARMIN foretrex series. Wonder if any of you have any experience with it?
or do should I go for something else?
Thanks for any help:)
Regards
-T
Unless you are going to be a SEAL, then something else might suit your needs better.
As with every other gear discussion on this boared, the first step is to decide what you want to do with it. What is your GPS need?
TR
Hehe.. sorry,sir. my bad.. my need is just like any other soldier,seal, psd etc..
I need something thats small,light, easy to work with. Large memory. must be water,snow and sand proof. I may use it in maritime ops.mountain ops. SAR,hunting etc..
I dont care about price, I see it as kind of a investment.
I have very little clue on GPS systems, so any recomandation is good :cool:
Thanks
-T
The Reaper
07-16-2006, 07:54
Do you need a vehicle mount with voice instructions, a way to find your way around in a metro area, or is it solely for cross country navigation?
I am running a Garmin Quest, and it does all of the above to a fair degree. If I only wanted to to do one of the tasks, I could pick a better unit. OTOH, it meets my needs pretty effectively.
TR
I use an eTrex Summit (http://www.garmin.com/products/etrexsummit/) unit, it was designed for both marine and recreation use so it meet my personal needs and JOB use. Biggest problem is it "eats" batteries, this is because of the compass. I don't like it (compass), so I turn it off. I use my Suunto Vector or X9 watches with GPS / Altimeter / Barometer / Compass.
FYI - it has some good accessories, but this goes for all Garmin units. Works for me.
Like TR said, it all depends on what your using it for and where. If it urban, you'll need to get a memory chip (datacards (http://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp?sku=010%2D10226%2D13)) for area place you'll be at or traveling to. This helps out and really is a must becuase of road maps for units that use them.
SwedeGlocker
07-16-2006, 08:42
I uses my issued Garmin 76S for veichle use and my private Garmin60XS for everything else. If i only could have one then i would choose a Garmin 60XS.
Thanks guys
I like the 60 series from Garmin alot, can you tell me some more about it? :munchin
After a looking around a bit, i found out that I should get one for vehicle and one for cross country etc.. The quest looks great for vehicle, any in puts?
The Reaper
07-17-2006, 05:55
As I stated earlier, I have the Quest and it works great in the car or on foot.
The only problem was the limited memory available in the Quest I, but the Quest 2 has remedied that issue.
It does have a slightly smaller screen than some vehicle mounts, but thus far, that has not been a problem for me.
Off the vehicle power supply, you get about 18 hours of run time with the internal battery, then it has got to be recharged.
TR
That was fast reply, Thanks TR:o
I recently purchased the Garmin 60Csx and love it. I had a foretrex before that although that is comparing apples to oranges. I also have used a e-trex and although that is a good compact GPS I am impartial to my 60Csx. I used the e-trex and the 60Csx side by side setting up a land nav course and what I noticed was that the e-trex would lose the satellite signal sometimes when the woods would get thick. The 60Csx on the other hand with its external antennea always maintained a strong signal. The memory on the 60Csx is also excellant at 256mb. Enough I believe to hold topo for the whole western half of the US. Also the oversized screen and the multiple buttons were easier to see and use vs. the single toggle and smaller screen on the e-trex. The color screen is a nice addition too although purely for asthetics and has no real advantage over black and white....but it does look cool. Anyway hope that helps, again I do not have a ton of experience with a large variety of GPS units but for the money the 60Csx seems to me to be a great GPS.
Monsoon65
08-03-2006, 19:04
I use my Suunto Vector or X9 watches with GPS / Altimeter / Barometer / Compass.
I've seen those Suunto Vector watches. They're really sharp! I've been trying, and with no success, to get our lifesupport guys to spring for these for everyone.
x SF med
08-04-2006, 06:41
Garmin GPS 76 - on sale at West Marine for $199 this week, good unit - designed for marine use, upgradeable, and accepts all the standard mapping disks, including all the government mapping.
Suunto Watches - once you get through the owners manual a few times and learn all of the functions, they're great, I use the Regatta series for racing. I still prefer my simple TAG or the Citizen Eco-Drive for most things.
I've been really happy with my Garmin GPS 60 CSX's performance. It tracks faster than just about any GPS I have previously used, and it's capable of recieving a signal through an aromored vehicle via the quad-helix antenna.
Clencher for me was the removable micro-sd chip.
http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap60csx/gallery/pt-gpsmap60csxRF-LG.jpg
Garmin E-trex for handheld use for me. I have maps, compass, and only use GPS on foot for a confirmation of where I already know I am.
Garmin 276C for vehicle mounted. I have the 128? meg card in it, because of software limitation in the computer mapping system.. won't let you fill up a 256 card, although they sell them.
I have over half of Alaska (read about 1/10th of the US) installed in the card, all topo maps to boot. It comes with streets built in.
Navigation, it can do the talk to you stuff, but at least from what I have found here, the streets that came with it stock aren't the best so I seem to track off a road all the time... which doesn't bother me, because I typically preplot my routes with checkpoints and just have to navigate to them.. plus there's only like 8 highways in alaska anyway.
Perfect for vehicular navigation though. It feeds off my truck for power, and I can install an external antenna if I want. Have had no need as of yet, though. Regardless of conditions. It Rocks.
The biggest problem, as I see it, with the Foretrex's is that they have an internal rechargable battery good for 15 hours. So what happens when you are on a 48 hour op?
Ambush Master
09-08-2006, 20:46
I've been really happy with my Garmin GPS 60 CSX's performance. It tracks faster than just about any GPS I have previously used, and it's capable of recieving a signal through an aromored vehicle via the quad-helix antenna.
Clencher for me was the removable micro-sd chip.
http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap60csx/gallery/pt-gpsmap60csxRF-LG.jpg
I recently bought one of these and have added a 1GB chip for additional memory.
This unit is quite remarkable.
Anyone have any good deal contacts for downloadable Map Software?!?!
Later
Martin
I recently bought one of these and have added a 1GB chip for additional memory.
This unit is quite remarkable.
Anyone have any good deal contacts for downloadable Map Software?!?!
Later
Martin
I am finally going to have to invest in my very own Garmin GPS 60 CSX in the next month or so as the company who handled all our mapping and routes has closed shop (owner is retiring and pissing off to CEBU to retire with the wife).
I had a question or two for those of you who are using this particular model:
1) Are you able to easily add your routes from your hikes to topographic maps on your pc? How does it work? Do you have to pay it on yourself meaning locate the hiking routes yourself or...?
2) How do you sync your gps co-ordinates with goggle earth? Easy to do?
3) Are there better topo and sat photos of north borneo other than depending on goggle earth? The eastern side of kota kinabalu over the mountain range in the kiulu valley is blurred and there are some great hiking trails on that particular section of the crocker range...
cheers
As in so many other procurement decisions (including governmental):
Do you want:
1 - The lowest priced unit that meets your minimum specifications, or;
2 - The best possible unit you can buy for a fixed number of dollars?
Minimum specifications would include:
a) No less than 12 channel/all satellites in view capability.
b) WAAS
c) 500 waypoints / 10 routes
etc.
and then add:
High sensitivity receiver (active antenna)
Color display (of increasing numbers of pixels/resolution).
Size of display (bigger is definately better).
Cable and Software for map / image / waypoint upload/download. preferably a generic USB plug/port rather that a proprietary cable or RS-232 that may not directly interface with legacy laptop computers.
External Memory (typically an SD chip).
Waterproof / Floating.
and then add:
Glonass (Russian) satellite capability. Maybe Gallieo if the EU gets its act together.
Differential GPS capability (secondary receiver) / post-processing capability.
Firmware upgrades.
and so on.
Bare minimum might be a $99 Garmin Etrex, while upper echelon receivers with disks and subscriptions for updates can exceed $600.
As in so many other procurement decisions (including governmental):
Do you want:
1 - The lowest priced unit that meets your minimum specifications, or;
2 - The best possible unit you can buy for a fixed number of dollars?
Minimum specifications would include:
a) No less than 12 channel/all satellites in view capability.
b) WAAS
c) 500 waypoints / 10 routes
etc.
and then add:
High sensitivity receiver (active antenna)
Color display (of increasing numbers of pixels/resolution).
Size of display (bigger is definately better).
Cable and Software for map / image / waypoint upload/download. preferably a generic USB plug/port rather that a proprietary cable or RS-232 that may not directly interface with legacy laptop computers.
External Memory (typically an SD chip).
Waterproof / Floating.
and then add:
Glonass (Russian) satellite capability. Maybe Gallieo if the EU gets its act together.
Differential GPS capability (secondary receiver) / post-processing capability.
Firmware upgrades.
and so on.
Bare minimum might be a $99 Garmin Etrex, while upper echelon receivers with disks and subscriptions for updates can exceed $600.
Good points you brought up there CSB..let me do some research and get back to you..cheers
Rob_0811
07-31-2008, 11:08
just out of curiosity, do the SF teams use the etrex type GPS more often than the DAGRs issued to those of us in the Big Army?
D9 (RIP)
07-31-2008, 20:10
IMHO you should absolutely go with the GPSMAP 60CSx from Garmin. It's got a superior antenna to the other Garmin products - hence the price difference. You really pay for the antenna in GPS, and the "double-helix" antenna marketed on this unit is superior. You can reliably pick up sats in locations where the ETrex and other units will not work.
When I bought mine in REI, the guy in the store turned it on and after about 5 minutes it was tracking to w/i 500ft. Not too bad for being inside an REI. It works great, very resilient, easy display, etc. Just a little pricey at around $350.
Slightly off topic here but it relates to GPS Units..would anyone know if there is a DVD or CD Rom available with quality topo maps of North Borneo and the island of Labuan (victoria Island) located off the coast of Brunei?
The current maps available date back to 1985 and pre 80';s and are out of date..I know some mapping companies do have updated versions...
I use the Regatta series for racing. I still prefer my simple TAG or the Citizen Eco-Drive for most things.
I have the older eTrexC (in color) that was effective in the box for what I was using it for at the time which was mostly marking IEDs, crossovers, and trials out in the middle of nowhere.
Its main deficiencies where no external antenna jack (it couldnt recieve in armoured vehicles so had to live in an open turret), small screen, and controls that too me werent that user friendly though they were ergonomically placed.
Im am interested in the Colonel's recommendation though I am concerned about using rechargable batts while out in the field ( I like the idea of having a unit I can use in the car but dismounted too). Im used to carrying disposables for the obvious reason.
Ive seen the gpsmap60 around even at my level and they are very good, plus they use disposables.
x SF med, what are you racing (old nacra 5.2 here)?
combatdivesup
09-07-2008, 10:03
If you're doing anything with RW, I recommend the 101. The huge compass will guide you to the door/ LCC. The 201 is sexier, but eats batteries faster and I just prefer the big arrow of the 101. Get with your rigger shed or some cloth ninja to remedy the buckle issue...it will break the hell off. Although it says waterproof...well, you know the deal.
Different note: screw Suunto, I have blown through 3 of them. Casio Pathfinder with Tough Solar (I have the wave ceptor, love it) lays the Suunto down. Batt stays charged, all updates are auto, easier to set up/ understand, makes you even more devestatingly handsome, and your d**k bigger.
If you're doing anything with RW, I recommend the 101. The huge compass will guide you to the door/ LCC. The 201 is sexier, but eats batteries faster and I just prefer the big arrow of the 101. Get with your rigger shed or some cloth ninja to remedy the buckle issue...it will break the hell off. Although it says waterproof...well, you know the deal.
Different note: screw Suunto, I have blown through 3 of them. Casio Pathfinder with Tough Solar (I have the wave ceptor, love it) lays the Suunto down. Batt stays charged, all updates are auto, easier to set up/ understand, makes you even more devestatingly handsome, and your d**k bigger.
I second that advice. I have a 101 on me everywhere I go over here down range. As far as the buckle issue, london bridge sells a better case that holds it more securely than the strap/pin set up. Good luck
Boomer-61
09-17-2008, 12:13
Have you looked at the Magellan Triton 400 or 500? The nice thing about them is the memory card which will hold maps from anywhere National Geographic has them. They are available on line for under $300.
Magellan Triton 500
Includes One Year Manufacturer's Warranty
2.2" QVGA Color Display
SiRFstarIII™ Chipset
Preloaded Basemap
SD Card Compatibility
VantagePoint™ Software
Electronic Compass & Barometer
Compatibility with National Geographic Maps
$229.99
washer11a
10-20-2008, 12:13
Any opinions on maps for in-theater, namely Iraq? Have the 60csx, now am wondering if it's worthwhile to fill in C or E of my navi PACE plan with one of the commercial offerings available online? Any advice based on past experience would be much appreciated...
There are so many new devices coming out nowdays from everyone from Garmin, to Suunto, to Polar to whoever...you really do need to spend time researching which suits you.
Man o Man.
Not easy to find maps of Borneo and in particular Sabah.
I just bought a Garmin Colorado 400T and LOVE it! I also have a Rino 520 for backup.
DumbFISTer
05-05-2009, 19:39
Lurp,
I'm a Fire Supporter & I need to have the most accurate grid I can to get 1st round hits. I have both a Fortrex 101 & a 60 Series which work great, but I HAVE to use a DAGR for targeting purposes. The Garmins are only for SA & Navigation.
I use the Foretrex 101 because YOU CAN CHANGE THE BATTERIES in the the field! The 201 requires you to recharge the unit. I leave mine on continuous & the batteries tend to last 18 to 20 hours with lithiums.
I use the 60 Series in my truck to link into a laptop with mIRC, PSS-SOF, my Rover & use the Moving Map function on Falcon View. Obviously, I have to use an external antenna but this setup is excellent for what I have to be able to do.
You can also tie any Garmin into Falcon View & upload Fire Support Coordination Measures, TRPs, Targets, etc. into the unit. That saves me a ton of time screwing with WPs & I know I have good data in my unit. Topo Maps are available through the map geeks. They're around for the CENTCOM AOR (I forget the website...it's not NGA but on sipr) & most units will load these maps.
Personally, even though I carry a DAGR for targeting & using my laser (if I carry it) I have never had any issue with my civ GPS. As for the strap on the 101, I replaced the standard wrist strap with an elastic band with velcro on the end...no biggie.
Hope this helps bro. By the way...in case you weren't aware, DO NOT use a civilian GPS for targeting purposes. There is no way of encrypting the unit & it can be Spoofed. We DO occasionally use NAVWAR & intentionally throw off the civilian GPS locations. Keep that in mind.
DumbFISTer
05-05-2009, 19:42
I just remembered where I found the Garmin (& DAGR) maps. Go to the CENTCOM website & locate the topo section. I'm like 95% sure that's where they're at. Hope this saves everyone a few hundred bucks.
I just remembered where I found the Garmin (& DAGR) maps. Go to the CENTCOM website & locate the topo section. I'm like 95% sure that's where they're at. Hope this saves everyone a few hundred bucks.
My son is about to enlist 13F in the CO Guard. What's with the user name and lack of SA? :eek:
Pat