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The Reaper
03-09-2006, 11:19
Missed Tributes
By Ben Stein
Published 3/6/2006 2:08:21 AM

Now for a few humble thoughts about the Oscars.

I did not see every second of it, but my wife did, and she joins me in noting that there was not one word of tribute, not one breath, to our fighting men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan or to their families or their widows or orphans. There were pitifully dishonest calls for peace -- as if the people we are fighting were interested in any peace for us but the peace of the grave. But not one word for the hundreds of thousands who have served and are serving, not one prayer or moment of silence for the dead! and maimed.

Basically, the sad truth is that Hollywood does not think of itself as part of America, and so, to Hollywood, the war to save freedom from Islamic terrorists is happening to someone else. It does not concern them except insofar as it offers occasion to mock or criticize George Bush. They live in dreamland and cannot be gracious enough to thank the men and women who pay with their lives for the stars' ability to live in dreamland. This is shameful.

The idea that it is brave to stand up for gays in Hollywood, to stand up against Joe McCarthy in Hollywood (fifty years after his death), to say that rich white people are bad, that oil companies are evil -- this is nonsense. All of these are mainstream ideas in Hollywood , always have been, always will be. For the people who made movies denouncing Big Oil, worshipping gays, mocking the rich to think of themselves as brave -- this is pathetic, childish narcissism.

The brave guy in Hollywood will be the one who says that this is a fabulously great country where we treat gays, blacks, and everyone else as equal. The courageous writer in Hollywood will be the one who says the oil companies do their best in a very hostile world to bring us energy cheaply and efficiently and with a minimum of corruption. The producer who really has guts will be the one who says that Wall Street, despite its flaws, has done the best job of democratizing wealth ever in the history of mankind.

No doubt the men and women who came to the Oscars in gowns that cost more than an Army Sergeant makes in a year, in limousines! with champagne in the back seat, think they are working class heroes to attack America -- which has made it all possible for them. They are not. They would be heroes if they said that Moslem extremists are the worst threat to human decency since Hitler and Stalin. But someone might yell at them or even attack them with a knife if they said that, so they never will.

Hollywood is above all about self: self-congratulation, self-promotion, and above all, self-protection. This is human and basic, but let's not kid ourselves. There is no greatness there in the Kodak theater. Greatness is an 18 year old kid on patrol in Kirkuk. Greatness lies unable to sleep worrying about her man in Mosul. Greatness sleeps at Arlington National Cemetery and lies waiting for death in VA Hospitals. God help us that we have sunk so low as to confuse foolish and petty boasting with the real courage that keeps this nation and the many fools in it alive and flourishing on national TV.

mumbleypeg
03-09-2006, 11:32
God Bless Ben Stein.

CRad
03-09-2006, 12:11
Missed Tributes
By Ben Stein
Greatness is an 18 year old kid on patrol in Kirkuk. Greatness lies unable to sleep worrying about her man in Mosul. Greatness sleeps at Arlington National Cemetery and lies waiting for death in VA Hospitals.

Amen!

Gypsy
03-09-2006, 14:52
God Bless Ben Stein.

Ditto. He really does get it.

Stiletto11
03-09-2006, 15:51
I noticed the same treatment at this years Super Bowl. Not one thought of our men and women serving in combat was even suggested.

kgoerz
03-09-2006, 16:36
Would you expect anything else from any wide spread media event, Oscars, Football....ect
1. The attention span has long run dry in the media that we are in a World War.
2. The left is also very afraid of main stream Americans like us. The last elections showed why. They don't want to piss us off again with the likes of Michel Moor.
3. The War has no effect on them know. WWII effected and involved everyone. When this one gets bigger and it probably will (Iran). They can hide in their mansions and let the majority of true Americans take care of it.

jon448
03-09-2006, 17:24
Would you expect anything else from any wide spread media event, Oscars, Football....ect
1. The attention span has long run dry in the media that we are in a World War.
2. The left is also very afraid of main stream Americans like us. The last elections showed why. They don't want to piss us off again with the likes of Michel Moor.
3. The War has no effect on them know. WWII effected and involved everyone. When this one gets bigger and it probably will (Iran). They can hide in their mansions and let the majority of true Americans take care of it.
I would expect football to at the very least mention the troops serving overseas. Just because it seems to me that football always has had a connection with the working class. Maybe even that is going away in today's society.:mad:

Bill Harsey
03-09-2006, 17:38
Kgoerz,
Maybe I don't watch the right big media events but NASCAR almost always salutes both our country and the Armed Forces at the beginning of every race. I didn't see how they started the Busch series race down in Mexico last week.

This is the only example I can come up with so your still mostly, well more than mostly, right.
Said with this- :D, big and wide Sir.


Ditto what Mumbleypeg says. Someone should invite Stein over here.

The Reaper
03-09-2006, 18:18
I would expect football to at the very least mention the troops serving overseas. Just because it seems to me that football always has had a connection with the working class. Maybe even that is going away in today's society.:mad:

The Superbowl ceremonies did mention the troops, IIRC, just before the National Anthem.

They did not revisit the point, from my observation.

TR

mugwump
03-09-2006, 18:58
Ben Stein speaks the truth about the troops, the economy, and society in general. That said, I could give a toss what Hollywood thinks. They are marginalized; March of the Penguins outgrossed the combined earnings of this year's nominees for Best Picture.

Jessica Alba sure looked fine in that gold dress, though.

kgoerz
03-09-2006, 20:41
Sorry B.H........ I have been a life long fan of NASCAR. Maybe this next quote will explain my view of sports these days…… “The only real sports in this world are Mountain Climbing, Bull Fighting and Auto Racing, Every thing else is nothing but adults playing kids games”…Ernest Hemingway.
Racing is not a Sport but an institution; at least I would never insult it by putting it in the same category as Football or Basketball. Just my opinion, I won't break Dance in my N-Zone if im right.

Bill Harsey
03-10-2006, 08:33
Kgoerz,
To build on your original point using Mr. Ben Stein, we could say that the Academy Awards and NASCAR have two rather different followings in the United States.
One of these groups represents and is comprised of the stock that built this nation.


That should get the ps.com "stating the obvious award".

Warrior-Mentor
03-12-2006, 14:20
The problem is that Ben's comments will get limited circulation...would be nice to see him interviewed on Meet the Press.

Bill Harsey
03-12-2006, 19:18
The problem is that Ben's comments will get limited circulation...would be nice to see him interviewed on Meet the Press.
I don't understand what your talking about, Mr. Steins comments got circulated here, what more do you want? :D

On a slightly more serious note, I emailed Mr. Stein and invited him here. The Team Sergeant was CC'd on that email.

CPTAUSRET
03-12-2006, 19:26
I don't understand what your talking about, Mr. Steins comments got circulated here, what more do you want? :D

On a slightly more serious note, I emailed Mr. Stein and invited him here. The Team Sergeant was CC'd on that email.


Good on ya, Bill!

Hope he takes you up on that.

Terry

ghuinness
07-07-2006, 22:38
Another column from Ben Stein:


How Was Your Weekend?
By Ben Stein
Published 7/6/2006 12:09:31 AM


All of this happened over the Fourth of July weekend.

On Sunday, I read an article about a housing development in Beverly Hills called Beverly Park. Houses are 18,000, 25,000, 30,000 square feet. Every house has to have a screening room. Neighbors fight with neighbors about sculptures and the color paint they use. No one sounds terribly happy. As far as I can tell, almost everyone in the development is Jewish. What am I to make of this? Sixty years after Hitler came close to wiping out the Jews of Europe, a hundred years after Jews arrived here in rags, they are living in houses of 25,000 square feet -- and complaining about their neighbors. We Jews are amazingly strange people.

On Monday, I had dinner with a man named Sgt. John Quinones who has just come back from two tours in Iraq and one in Afghanistan. He is a wounded, highly decorated infantryman. A real hero. He said he thought things in Iraq were difficult, but the Iraqi National Guardsmen he worked with were fantastically brave. He can't wait to go back and fight more. He's in Yuma, Arizona, testing devices to jam remotely detonated IED's. Some work better than others.

He wants his wife to go see her mother but they can't afford it. Wifey and I said we would pay. It seems like little enough to do.

After dinner, he and my Boeing pal Peggy and I went to a bar where he played a message on his cell from his daughter telling him, "Daddy, I miss you. Daddy, I'm scared. Daddy, don't go. Daddy I love you. Daddy, don't go." She's almost three years old. His eyes misted over when he told me the story.

That night I read a piece in the New York Times about how the British tortured and killed American patriots in New York harbor during the Revolutionary War. Supposedly, according to the author, what George Bush is doing with al Qaeda captives is the same. Supposedly there is some connection between Patrick Henry and John Adams and Zarqawi and bin Laden. And the Democrats wonder why they can't get traction in middle America.

On July Fourth, Quinones and I were joined by his two fellow soldiers and testers of IED jammers, Griff and Danny. We had sushi, bought clothes at Brooks Brothers in Palm Desert, talked about the war. Griff is a member of EODS. This, if I recall right, is Explosive Ordnance Disposal Service, or something like that. He is called in when IEDs are found or suspected, blows them up, then goes home.

"The beautiful thing," he said, "is that if you make a mistake, you never know it. You're just a pink mist."

Danny laughed heartily at this.

We had dinner at our club and watched fireworks. The disc jockey in the club played patriotic songs. When he played The Star Spangled Banner, Griff and Danny stood at attention, their eyes shining.

I got an e-mail from the mother of a Lance Corporal in the Marines named Tyler Jackson. He is accused of murdering an Iraqi civilian and covering it up, along with some other Marines. Until recently, he was being held in leg irons in solitary confinement at Pendleton. He was questioned for weeks before he got to see a lawyer.

A few weeks ago, a historian sent me a long article about how the terrorists are fighting us by cooking up these horror stories and paying people to pretend to "witness" them. Either they "witness" U.S. atrocities or they get their heads cut off. The British in Iraq have found out that almost all of these accusations are false. I wonder how many months will have to go by until we learn that some of these accusations against our men are false.

In the meantime, how can it be that the Supreme Court is worried about the rights of Osama bin Laden's driver in court, but no one is raising a finger about the rights of Marines who offer their lives to fight for us and then get held in leg irons when there is an accusation against them? How can this be?

How can it be that in the mainstream media, you will NEVER see a soldier's photo on the front page unless he's charged with a crime, as Wlady asks.

Glorious America, time to figure out who your friends are, I thought, and then looked at the stars. We are still a free people, thanks to men like Griff and John and Danny, and when one of their colleagues is accused of wrongdoing, let's show some darned respect.

Last I heard, it was innocent until proven guilty.