Training problems?

[Hickboy]

I was looking at the Chris Reeve Neil Roberts Warrior Knife on www.chrisreeve.com, which is, as many of you know, dedicated to the memory of Petty Officer First Class Neil Roberts, killed in action during Operation Anaconda, Afghanistan 2002, and the first SEAL to lose his life in action since 1989. I was reading an article last night that was about U.S. Army Special Forces in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewear. There are many Army SF Soldiers that have been killed over there while in the line of duty. However, Neil Roberts was the first SEAL to be KIA since 1989. I was wondering if any of you guys know why so many Army SF guys are getting killed over there, while SEALs aren't. Is the Army trying to train the SF guys too quickly, or is the training not good enough, or what?? I know the main mission of SF is Foreign Internal Defense (FID), and the main mission of SEALs is fast strike raids, ambushes, etc. So I'm starting to assume that SF are trained less on actual small-unit combat tactics like raids, stalking, ambushes, patrolling, but more on leading large numbers of indigs in more simple conventional infantry-type attacks, while SEALs are more trained on small unit tactics. So, I went on the ever intellegent internet and did some research. This is what I came up with for actual direct action type combat training for the SEALs and Army SF:

First, SEALs:
3rd Phase of BUD/s is Land Warfare Training, which is 9 weeks in length.
After BUD/S, there is STT (SEAL Tactical Training), which is 4 months long.
Then, once in a SEAL Platoon, they undergo Land Warfare training again.
(I've also read that SEALs often contract professional trainers to teach very specialized combat training)

Now Army SF:
Special Forces Qualification Course (SFQC) Individual Skill Phase II: 46 days of small-unit tactics and live-fire events.

So, it SEEMS that SEALs get MUCH more Direct Action type combat training than Army SF does. What's up with this?

P.S.- I mean absolutely NO disrespect to SF Soldiers and am NOT trying to compare SEALs to SF, i'm just trying to get info as my best friend has a 18X contract and want to get as much info as I can. Thank you for any help.

[Doc]

Originally Posted by Hickboy

I was looking at the Chris Reeve Neil Roberts Warrior Knife on www.chrisreeve.com, which is, as many of you know, dedicated to the memory of Petty Officer First Class Neil Roberts, killed in action during Operation Anaconda, Afghanistan 2002, and the first SEAL to lose his life in action since 1989. I was reading an article last night that was about U.S. Army Special Forces in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewear. There are many Army SF Soldiers that have been killed over there while in the line of duty. However, Neil Roberts was the first SEAL to be KIA since 1989. I was wondering if any of you guys know why so many Army SF guys are getting killed over there, while SEALs aren't. Is the Army trying to train the SF guys too quickly, or is the training not good enough, or what?? I know the main mission of SF is Foreign Internal Defense (FID), and the main mission of SEALs is fast strike raids, ambushes, etc. So I'm starting to assume that SF are trained less on actual small-unit combat tactics like raids, stalking, ambushes, patrolling, but more on leading large numbers of indigs in more simple conventional infantry-type attacks, while SEALs are more trained on small unit tactics. So, I went on the ever intellegent internet and did some research. This is what I came up with for actual direct action type combat training for the SEALs and Army SF:

First, SEALs:
3rd Phase of BUD/s is Land Warfare Training, which is 9 weeks in length.
After BUD/S, there is STT (SEAL Tactical Training), which is 4 months long.
Then, once in a SEAL Platoon, they undergo Land Warfare training again.
(I've also read that SEALs often contract professional trainers to teach very specialized combat training)

Now Army SF:
Special Forces Qualification Course (SFQC) Individual Skill Phase II: 46 days of small-unit tactics and live-fire events.

So, it SEEMS that SEALs get MUCH more Direct Action type combat training than Army SF does. What's up with this?

P.S.- I mean absolutely NO disrespect to SF Soldiers and am NOT trying to compare SEALs to SF, i'm just trying to get info as my best friend has a 18X contract and want to get as much info as I can. Thank you for any help.

Go away kid. You're in way over your head. This is not the place to ask these types of questions.


Doc

[Hickboy]

Sorry, I didn't mean to upset anyone. I'm gone.

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by Hickboy

Sorry, I didn't mean to upset anyone. I'm gone.

That was really one of the stupidest questions I have ever seen here, even for a high school kid.

Hickboy, go read all of the stickies and intros posted at the top of the forums and do not post again for 30 days, or you will be banned. In 30 days, explain to me what the intros and stickies told you that would be relevant with this question you have asked.

The go to your math teacher and ask her to explain why 5 out of 500 is a greater percentage than 25 out of 5000, and how to make a valid numerical comparison. You are too ignorant to train right now.

I will be watching you, do as you have been instructed or catch the boot.

TR

[Ambush Master]

Originally Posted by Hickboy

P.S.- I mean absolutely NO disrespect to SF Soldiers and am NOT trying to compare SEALs to SF, i'm just trying to get info as my best friend has a 18X contract and want to get as much info as I can. Thank you for any help.

"Enlisting into the U.S. Marine Corps next year."

I think that THAT says it all without ANY further EXPLANATION !!!!

After all, one of the resident SQUEALS in here even has a Sig line of "THE COMPASS IS WRONG !!"

In, or on the water, they are SHIT HOT !!! IN Unconventional/ Counterinsurgency LAND WARFARE, (Not to mention INTERACTING with the Foreign Nationals), That is NOT their Forte !!!

Kinda sounds like you're definitely cut out for the Marines !!!