Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia

[Paslode]

Over the past several years there have been a wide array of topics on DADT, Gay Marriage, Transgenders, the DSM and the normalization of perversions.

http://professionalsoldiers.com/foru...archid=3677227

And one consistent theme is they will never legalize or normalize pedophilia like they have the other former perversions.......

Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia
Pedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life. Now, many experts view it as a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change

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http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan...hiles-20130115


Looks like the NAMBLA lobby is making inroads into normalcy and victim status.

[Box]

"IT can never happen in the USA..."
"...we're too well informed"


The problem is, we are also too stupid as a nation to accept that Overtons window is real.

[tonyz]

Pedophelia = abomination

Research that "many researchers..."

[craigepo]

There is a good reason these people are put on lifetime supervision when convicted.

[sg1987]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

One irony I do not get is why conservatives and liberals view homosexuality and pedophilia in an inverse fashion. Conservatives will argue that homosexuality is a choice, implying that the person can be changed, and then also argue that pedophilia is not a choice, that that is how the person was born. But then the liberal (or some liberals anyway) does the precise opposite, they argue that homosexuality is a natural inclination and that pedophilia is something that can be fixed through therapy. IMO, I think they are both natural inclinations, the difference though is that with pedophilia, the person is harming a child, so they have to live with their urges and avoid acting on them.

I do believe that there can be good pedophiles in the sense of people who are morally good, but who just for whatever reason are sexually attracted to children. However, they have to avoid ever acting on the urges.



I would take issue that all of these are "perversions." I believe that some people are just born with something wired differently. I also see nothing wrong with the normalization of such behaviors so long as they are not harming anybody else.



Oh I believe that in some liberal areas they will most definitely try to either legalize it or give lightweight punishments to such people. But pedophilia is different from transgenders, homosexuals, etc...in that it is not adults, it involves children, which is a whole different ballgame.

YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS!

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

One irony I do not get is why conservatives and liberals view homosexuality and pedophilia in an inverse fashion. Conservatives will argue that homosexuality is a choice, implying that the person can be changed, and then also argue that pedophilia is not a choice, that that is how the person was born. But then the liberal (or some liberals anyway) does the precise opposite, they argue that homosexuality is a natural inclination and that pedophilia is something that can be fixed through therapy. IMO, I think they are both natural inclinations, the difference though is that with pedophilia, the person is harming a child, so they have to live with their urges and avoid acting on them.

I do believe that there can be good pedophiles in the sense of people who are morally good, but who just for whatever reason are sexually attracted to children. However, they have to avoid ever acting on the urges.



I would take issue that all of these are "perversions." I believe that some people are just born with something wired differently. I also see nothing wrong with the normalization of such behaviors so long as they are not harming anybody else.



Oh I believe that in some liberal areas they will most definitely try to either legalize it or give lightweight punishments to such people. But pedophilia is different from transgenders, homosexuals, etc...in that it is not adults, it involves children, which is a whole different ballgame.

If you go way, way back you will a reference to the Trojan Couch, it was something NMAP brought up, which essentially was that pervert academics banded together to normalize Homosexuality and that would be used as a Trojan Horse to normalize other perversions.


One more point....

Chuck Manson, Jeffrey Dalmer, John Wayne Gasey, Pol Pot and Hitler were all just born with something and wired a bit differently....

[blacksmoke]

Lobotomy for first offense.

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by blacksmoke

Lobotomy for first offense.

One way to put a dent in recidivism.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

I do believe that there can be good pedophiles in the sense of people who are morally good, but who just for whatever reason are sexually attracted to children. However, they have to avoid ever acting on the urges.

A friend of ours was just sentenced to 25 years for acting on his urges. He's 50, so the sentence is basically a life sentence. The judge, in fact, told him that at his age he was considered set in his predilections and that rehab was not likely. Thus the long sentence.

It's been eight months since he was caught. I'm still trying to reconcile the morally good man I know with the monster others have labeled him. I don't think I ever will.

Susan

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

I delt with these animals in prison and can tell you I have always believed there was something wrong with them from birth and that will NEVER change no matter what liberal therapy you make them go through. It is not normal to be attracted to a child its not like anyone ever had to tell me it's wrong it is just not normal. They are like rabid dogs and need to be put down.

Concur 100%!!! And we should feed their remains to the pigs.

Holly

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by Requiem

A friend of ours was just sentenced to 25 years for acting on his urges. He's 50, so the sentence is basically a life sentence. The judge, in fact, told him that at his age he was considered set in his predilections and that rehab was not likely. Thus the long sentence.

It's been eight months since he was caught. I'm still trying to reconcile the morally good man I know with the monster others have labeled him. I don't think I ever will.

Susan

To be caught at 50 and be able to hide this side for so long makes you wonder how many other things someone like that was able to deceive his friends about. How do we keep our children and society safe from those who would act on those urges at the costs of a child with a still developing brain while concealing the action.?

[Joker]

Originally Posted by Requiem

A friend of ours was just sentenced to 25 years for acting on his urges. He's 50, so the sentence is basically a life sentence. The judge, in fact, told him that at his age he was considered set in his predilections and that rehab was not likely. Thus the long sentence.

It's been eight months since he was caught. I'm still trying to reconcile the morally good man I know with the monster others have labeled him. I don't think I ever will.

Susan

I do not know this man, but I am sorry to tell you that he is NOT a morally good man. How would you feel/think if he did this to your child (God forbid)?

[Sohei]

I have been investigating and arresting them for 26 years. From 16 to 84 years of age. They have every level of education and come from every type of employment...lawyers, plumbers, doctors, coaches, teachers, law enforcement officers.

To society...they were perceived as everyday, ordinary, and in many instances...outstanding citizens, BUT, what they did behind closed doors was known only to them and their victims...no one ever new but them. There is nothing honorable or moral about them.

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

One irony I do not get is why conservatives and liberals view homosexuality and pedophilia in an inverse fashion. Conservatives will argue that homosexuality is a choice, implying that the person can be changed, and then also argue that pedophilia is not a choice, that that is how the person was born. But then the liberal (or some liberals anyway) does the precise opposite, they argue that homosexuality is a natural inclination and that pedophilia is something that can be fixed through therapy. IMO, I think they are both natural inclinations, the difference though is that with pedophilia, the person is harming a child, so they have to live with their urges and avoid acting on them.

I do believe that there can be good pedophiles in the sense of people who are morally good, but who just for whatever reason are sexually attracted to children. However, they have to avoid ever acting on the urges.

I am not sure how to take what you wrote above, the fact that one sees a child as a sexual object is in its self immoral. Understanding the brain development of young adults is not complete in their teens when it comes to impulse control and decision making makes me sick that their are adults who take advantage of this.



I would take issue that all of these are "perversions." I believe that some people are just born with something wired differently. I also see nothing wrong with the normalization of such behaviors so long as they are not harming anybody else.

So how does a free country allow such open perversion and allow the pedophile the rights of other free men like having children, adoption etc...

Oh I believe that in some liberal areas they will most definitely try to either legalize it or give lightweight punishments to such people. But pedophilia is different from transgenders, homosexuals, etc...in that it is not adults, it involves children, which is a whole different ballgame.

No doubt liberals generally save their compassion for those poor misunderstood people such as those who practice pedophilia and bestiality but seem to blame the children and the parents for the child enticing the poor pedophile.

If there is real scientific evidence that Pedophilia is a uncontrollable physical and Psychological response then it is clear these people should be shot. Children are innocents and protecting them is priority.

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

Children are innocents and protecting them is priority.

This.

There are just some lines that cannot be crossed - we are a better society when we recognize true evil and treat it accordingly. There is no amount of PC spin that could excuse the type of behavior being discussed.

Treat evil as the evil it is - but it must not be tolerated and certainly not allowed to proliferate - especially when innocents are involved.