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Old 01-21-2016, 09:16   #1
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Ted Cruz vs. The Establishment

Two days ago, Sarah Palin came out endorsing Donald Trump. Yesterday, Bob Dole came out and said that Ted Cruz was "too extreme" to be president. As you will note from the attached article, Dole said the same thing about Reagan before Reagan beat Jimmy Carter.

I have been a fan of Cruz since he began standing up to individually fight the problems he saw in DC. Although I don't yet know who I'm voting for, I find it rather odd that the GOP Establishment is already working so hard against Cruz.

When I hear Sarah Palin breaking squelch (what the hell happened to her voice?), paired with the Establishment people working so hard against Cruz, it tells me that Cruz must be on to something.

At this point, I have no idea who I'm voting for, but I do see a lot of talent in the GOP field. I really don't need Palin or Dole telling me a damned thing. I'm not so sure what I think about candidate endorsements, but I really detest endorsements coming from DC.

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Old 01-21-2016, 09:53   #2
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I don't see Sarah Palin's endorsement as much of an advantage, it might get Trump some additional free airtime, but that is about it.

Bob Dole says Cruz is too extreme, yet Bloomberg reports that 'The Specter of Donald Trump Is Haunting Davos'.

It will be interesting to see if Trump, Cruz and Bernie tank and the establishment pulls one out for Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton so they can continue business as usual.
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Old 01-21-2016, 13:09   #3
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I have said before, I will vote for whomever the Republicans nominate. I like Ted Cruz. That fact that he is despised by most of the Senate says a lot about his character. He is not a business as usual senator. He sees the corruption and self-serving greed that drives most of the people in Congress and wants to change it. I can get behind that. I don't know what skeletons are in his closet, I just hope they aren't fatal...
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Old 01-21-2016, 13:31   #4
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It will be interesting to see if Trump, Cruz and Bernie tank and the establishment pulls one out for Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton so they can continue business as usual.
Re Cruz:

If he wins the nomination the issue of natural born versus naturalized at birth will take on a life of its own. After 8 years of people ( some even on this board) questioning whether POTUS is a citizen, the other side is going to have a field day.



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Old 01-21-2016, 15:32   #5
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This natural-born citizen thing is such BS, I am amazed that so many people give it any credence. http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/...-born-citizen/

Everyone is out to get Ted Cruz because he will not sell out to special interests in either party. I've known him for 25 years and I am personally vouching for him. If you want to help him survive these attacks, please give what you can here: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBCA0007
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Old 01-21-2016, 16:00   #6
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This natural-born citizen thing is such BS, I am amazed that so many people give it any credence. http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/...-born-citizen/
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That single-parent requirement has been amended several times [since The Nationality Act of 1940 was enacted], but under the law in effect between 1952 and 1986 — Cruz was born in 1970 — someone must have a citizen parent who resided in the United States for at least 10 years, including five after the age of 14, in order to be considered a natural-born citizen. Cruz’s mother, Eleanor Darragh, was born in Delaware, lived most of her life in the United States, and gave birth to little Rafael Edward Cruz in her 30s. Q.E.D.

So why all the brouhaha about where Obama was born, given that there’s no dispute that his mother, Ann Dunham, was a citizen? Because his mother was 18 when she gave birth to the future president in 1961 and so couldn’t have met the 5-year-post-age-14 residency requirement. Had Obama been born a year later, it wouldn’t have mattered whether that birth took place in Hawaii, Kenya, Indonesia, or anywhere else. (For those born since 1986, by the way, the single citizen parent must have only resided here for five years, at least two of which must be after the age of 14.)

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Old 01-21-2016, 19:49   #7
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The last election cycle in Missouri, the Democrats "picked" the Senate candidate they wanted to run against, a guy named Todd Akin. About one week after Akin won the primary, he got picked apart on an issue of "legitimate rape". Claire McCaskill then cakewalked into a general election win. I'm curious if there isn't a similar deal going on in this race as well.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/politi...rump-questions

I'm not sure if there is anything to this CNN article or not. But it just seems strange that Trump hasn't been hit with any of these questions yet.
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Akin got shredded el pronto. No matter what his intention was combining legitimate and rape together was about as bone headed as it gets....that should have been a no brainer.
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Akin got shredded el pronto. No matter what his intention was combining legitimate and rape together was about as bone headed as it gets....that should have been a no brainer.
Well, I went to Jr. High and High School in Oklahoma, and that's what I was taught as well. So, you can blame him for not keeping up with the science, but he can't be blamed for what he was taught in the government run schools.

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Well, I went to Jr. High and High School in Oklahoma, and that's what I was taught as well. So, you can blame him for not keeping up with the science, but he can't be blamed for what he was taught in the government run schools.

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That and there could be a legal definition or law of what is considered a legitimate rape. I cannot think of a legitimate reason to rape someone, but there are laws that define where you have legitimate case of rape.

Regardless if you utter legitmate and rape together it wont sit well with most women. As I recall my wife said something to the effect of WTF is wrong with Akin! There is nothing legitimate about rape!


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I'm not sure if there is anything to this CNN article or not. But it just seems strange that Trump hasn't been hit with any of these questions yet.
That may become Trumps sink or swim moment. If he handles himself well he should come out pretty good.
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That and there could be a legal definition or law of what is considered a legitimate rape. I cannot think of a legitimate reason to rape someone, but there are laws that define where you have legitimate case of rape.
I don't know how long you've lived in Kansas, but I was largely raised in a community of original settlers to the area. "Old wives tales" prevailed. It's not that rape was "legitimate", it's that it happened. Parents (mother's really) didn't want their daughters to die from having an abortion (I had a great aunt that did) plus it was not morally acceptable to have an abortion. So I assume that the fear/adrenaline interruption of pregnancy was posed for miscarriages, that were rather common, and "act of God" was offered as explanations for live births. BTW, such laws, written or not, were still enforced at the end of a rope in my grandmother's day.

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I don't know how long you've lived in Kansas, but I was largely raised in a community of original settlers to the area.
I have lived in Kansas since birth. From what I understand from both my mothers (both are from the 4 state area) you didn't talk about that stuff, it stayed within the family and they went to extremes to keep things under wraps.

My bio-Grandmother concoceted a story that my bio-mother had been injured in a water sking accident, went as far as staining her leg with ink to back up the story when she went back to school. My bio-Grandmothers, mother was 15 when she married a 30 year old man.

My mom had a un-wed cousin in Iowa that got pregnant, and when the town folk saw her walking they would move to the opposite side of the street.

The farther back you go, and or the more rural you go the more extreme the stories seem to be....at least extreme in comparison to todays standards.
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I received this tacky email this morning begging for money. It brought back images of a tearful Jimmy Swaggert on Sunday morning TV or Mr. Haney on Green Acres.
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I usually give a few bucks at the beginning to a few people and sit back and see what happens. Since giving some to Ted I have been spammed with emails just like that and mailings. If he spent less on his mailing he would have more to spend.

Most know I Hate Politicians but we have to have a government. I am so tired of these flip flopping idiots and the socialist that are running on both sides.
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