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Old 08-18-2014, 10:54   #1
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And you think Edward Snowden is the traitor?

The more I read the more I'm convinced that Edward Snowden did the right thing for the right reasons. These other pieces of shit need some jail time if not just for lying to the American people....
Just keep nodding your heads north and south believing everything the "government" tells you until your "Freedoms" are gone.




The intelligence community's secrets and lies
BY STEVE CHAPMAN | AUGUST 7, 2014 | 11:00 AM
TOPICS: CIA NATIONAL SECURITY NSA JAMES CLAPPER

A diplomat was once defined as someone whose job is to lie for his country. That's apparently what makes them different from intelligence officers, whose function is to lie to their country.

How else can you explain why CIA Director John Brennan hasn't been shown the door? Or how Director of National Intelligence James Clapper remains on the federal payroll? Or why Keith Alexander stepped down as head of the National Security Agency only when he was good and ready?

Each of them lied flagrantly to the American people about vital matters of public concern. None paid a price.

The latest example erupted last week, when the CIA's inspector general confirmed that the agency had hacked into Senate Intelligence Committee computers and read emails sent by staffers. The investigation came after Sen. Dianne Feinstein revealed the surreptitious search, charging that the CIA had violated federal law and the Constitution.

At the time, Brennan rejected Feinstein's accusation, insisting that "nothing could be further from the truth." Places far from the truth are his native land. Only after the inspector general delivered his report was Brennan forced to admit he was wrong about Feinstein's complaint without revealing whether the falsehood was the result of dishonesty or of ignorance.

Yet President Obama shrugged it all off. "I have full confidence in John Brennan," he said, raising the question of what the CIA director would have to do to forfeit his trust. Kill Zooey Deschanel with his bare hands on national TV?

The committee's mistake was looking into something the CIA really didn't want examined: how it interrogated detainees and what it got from them. What the still-classified committee report says, according to the Associated Press, is that the methods "were far more brutal than previously understood" and "failed to produce life-saving intelligence" and that the agency deceived Congress and the State Department about them.

The assessment is supposed to be made public at some point, but the fight with the committee isn't over. On Tuesday, Feinstein said the CIA is insisting on redactions that would deprive the public of "key facts that support the report's findings and conclusions."

It's no surprise that Brennan finds transparency unappealing. In using waterboarding and other vicious techniques, the agency shredded a 1994 federal law that bans torture. It violated international treaties ratified by the United States.

It even killed people: Lawrence Wilkerson, chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell during the Bush administration, testified that 108 detainees had died in the custody of the CIA or the U.S. military, including at least 25 homicides. The CIA destroyed hundreds of hours' worth of video footage documenting what it had done.

Lying to the people they are supposed to serve is just part of the job description for top intelligence officials. At a 2013 Senate hearing, Clapper was asked, "Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?" He said it didn't despite the agency's massive collection of domestic phone records.

Clapper delivered that reply even though he had been given the question in advance, and he stuck to it even after the committee offered him the chance to change it. He gave it because he figured he could get away with lying. And he might have, if Edward Snowden hadn't exposed the truth.

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Old 08-18-2014, 14:51   #2
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The bad acts of Brennan and Clapper or anyone else do not justify the actions of Lil' Eddie or at least not in my mind. We will just have to agree to disagree on this one TS.

A modest proposal: Hang Clapper and Brennan and confine Lil' Eddie to be Putin's Bitch. Works for me.
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Old 08-18-2014, 15:09   #3
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TS ~ I'm along the same feeling as you. I do feel there are tons, and I mean TONS of people within our Goverment that should be going to Jail over these Problems. I will say that I feel that Snowden, IMO, didn't "Try hard enough" to get the word out. I do still feel he was handled by "SOMEONE." Done very well TO!!!

Have yo read No Place to Hide? Pick it up, very EYE OPENING!!

http://www.amazon.com/No-Place-Hide-.../dp/162779073X
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I do still feel he was handled by "SOMEONE." Done very well TO!!!

Have yo read No Place to Hide? Pick it up, very EYE OPENING!!

http://www.amazon.com/No-Place-Hide-.../dp/162779073X
No doubt he was "handled". IMO the lead candidate is Julian Assange. Still does not exonerate him though.
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No doubt he was "handled". IMO the lead candidate is Julian Assange. Still does not exonerate him though.
Yes he was by Julian Assange, but you have to look two or three levels out to see who it really was/is.
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What a relief

It's good to know I'm not alone in this view of issues. No wonder the gvrnmt is afraid of vets...
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Yes he was by Julian Assange, but you have to look two or three levels out to see who it really was/is.
OK, now you have me curious MG. Your skills in this area are way beyond mine. Care to share your speculation of who or what beyond Assange. Inquiring minds want to know.

No doubt Assange is not a sole operator and something or someone is pulling his strings. Probably and institution or government. What's your assessment?
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