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Old 11-27-2016, 02:14   #1
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2016 Presidential Election Recount effort

Jill Stein, greenie, socialist and election law genius.

I'm still trying to get my head around what is going on with Komrade Stein and the recount effort. Apparently “fake news” is the new elixir for decision making.... Maybe it's just a desire to remain in the spotlight just that little bit longer...before fading into irrelevance for another 4 or more years?

Trying to find a real analysis on what is involved in all this has been a bit difficult. CBS, NBS, ABS, MSNBS, CNNBS FOXBS (and newcomer RTBS) are spinning so hard in one direction or another their eyeballs will be bloodshot if they ever get stable.

Wisconsin is already moving toward recount (T- 47.9% Hk- 46.9%). Apparently if you show up with a suitcase full of other people's money screaming fraud you can have a recount. I'm just wondering Jill Stein, who is defrauding whom? Your $2M fundraiser quickly shifted to $5 and $7M...with no promises of where that money would be spent. Just “trust us”. Nice work libtards. I've got a Nigerian who'd like to talk to you on the phone about some funds that are stuck in their banking system.


1. WI Statutes § 9.01.

Any candidate voted for at any election may request a recount. The candidate must file a verified petition with the clerk or body with whom nomination papers are to be filed for that office. The petition should be filed not earlier than the time of completion of the canvass and not later than 5:00 p.m. on the third business day following the determination of the results of the election.[1] The petition must specify each ward or municipality in which a recount is desired. An opposing candidate or any voter or other interested party may similarly file a petition for a recount in any or all of the remaining wards or municipalities.[2]
If the difference between the votes cast for the leading candidate and those cast for the petitioner is not more than 0.5% of the total votes if more than 1,000 votes are cast, the petitioner is not required to pay a fee. Otherwise, the petitioner must pay the calculated or estimated fee at the time of filing.[3]

Within five business days after completion of the recount, any candidate aggrieved by the recount may appeal to circuit court. The appellant must file the notice with the clerk of the circuit court together with an undertaking and surety in the amount approved by the court.[4]



Pennsylvania is next on the “list” with a 20-day shot-clock for filing (T – 48.8% Hk – 47.63%). You would hope that street-side shrilling while standing on top of a burnt out police cruiser wouldn't get you in the door. Neither would walking up with a suitcase full of other people's money. Apparently in PA “all” that is required is a deposit of $50 per district for the audit to take place. PA has no paper trail so the process appears to be simply asking the machine what it has inside (again). I've read some stories about the need for the recount petitioner in PA to prove before a court that there was fraud. Well, seems that really isn't true as the PA statute states that there is no requirement of proof.

Pennsylvania Statutes Title 25 P.S. Elections & Electoral Districts § 3262. Recanvassing voting machines upon petition of electors alleging fraud or error -


Lastly (hopefully) would be Michigan (T - 47.59% - hK- 47.34%)

Seems that this would be unlikely as Michigan appears to have gone to great pains before certifying the vote within the state. I've also not seen anything as of yet indicating that the 48 hour filing had occurred (??)

MCL 168.862; 168.879

SUBMISSION OF RECOUNT PETITION AND DEPOSIT: A petition for a recount which will be conducted under the authority of the Board of State Canvassers is filed with the Secretary of State. If a recount involves a U.S. House District, State Senate District or State House District that is wholly contained within a single county, the petition must be submitted no later than 48 hours “following the adjournment” of the meeting convened by the Board of State Canvassers to certify the election. For any other office, the petition must be submitted no later than 48 hours “following the completion of the canvass” of the election. If the office of the State Representative is involved, a copy of the petition is filed with the clerk of the State House of Representatives. If the office of State Senator is involved, a copy of the petition is filed with the Secretary of the Senate. (MCL 168.879)
So the clown-car continues to careen carelessly down the mountainside.

Percentage differences between the two in WI and PA are pretty tight around 1%. Ohio not even close. Popular vote: Wisconsin vote difference is 27,257. PA vote difference is 70,638 and Ohio 454,983

Other factors weighing now are reports of death-threats to members of the electoral college... so interesting to see what happens with the delegates between now and December 13. (For more on the timeline for the electoral college check out the Archives site here) I don't think I would care so much if it weren't for the fact that I've seen this movie before. The dead dude always comes out of the lake and these political leeches are not going to go away if they think there is any chance of sucking more life out of Americans.

Here we go.

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From the Electoral College page:

2012 Presidential election popular vote tallies

Pennsylvania: MR – 2,680,434; Zero – 2,990,274 Difference 309,840
Michigan MR - 2,112,673; Zero - 2,561,911 Difference 449,238
Wisconsin: MR – 1,407,966; Zero – 1,620,985 Difference 213,019

Swing state: Florida MR – 4,163,447; Zero – 4,237,756 Difference 74,309
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Old 11-27-2016, 03:05   #2
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IMO the spin machine was ramping towards this scenario well before Nov. 8 with the constant spin of Russian involvement and their potential manipulation. Shortly before Nov. 8 the puppets on liberal sites/blogs began a new meme 'Fake News', and that has taken off like wildfire since Nov. 8. Within the past few days the libs are not only trumpeting that Breitbart, Drudge and Wikileaks are fake news sources they have now added that that are run by the Russians.

As of yesterday the libs are claming that Trump has already lost 5k in votes in one precinct in Wisconsin.......the sources if this information are dubius at best, but some libs pressing this on open forum none the less.

https://www.google.com/search?client...wisconsin+vote

At very least they are making things difficult for Trump, at worst they are setting up to steal the election.
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Old 11-27-2016, 03:09   #3
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Here are more details on a PA recount:

http://billypenn.com/2016/11/23/a-pe...rio-explained/
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Old 11-27-2016, 03:16   #4
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Smoke and Mirrors!

DNC and others (Soros) paying the 3rd Party candidate to drag the election out and attempt to delegitimize the president-elect.

Hitlery conceded, Bernie wasn't on the ticket.

Stein will become Gored and a political piranha. She's got nothing to lose and will lose her identity as a result.

Play silly games, win silly prizes.
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Old 11-27-2016, 03:24   #5
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Smoke and Mirrors!

DNC and others (Soros) paying the 3rd Party candidate to drag the election out and attempt to delegitimize the president-elect.

Hitlery conceded, Bernie wasn't on the ticket.

Stein will become Gored and a political piranha. She's got nothing to lose and will lose her identity as a result.

Play silly games, win silly prizes.

Remember Norm Coleman:

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...gh-voter-fraud

And don't forget Scott Foval and Robert Creamer:

‘How to Commit Voter Fraud on a Massive Scale’

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...inton-network/
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Old 11-27-2016, 03:27   #6
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One can hope, Google and FaceBook are about to find out they have become irrelevant.

Sedition laws in this country have long past been inept. I for one am hoping people (read media) face the full accountability of stirring the pot.
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Old 11-27-2016, 03:33   #7
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Remember Norm Coleman:

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...gh-voter-fraud

And don't forget Scott Foval and Robert Creamer:

‘How to Commit Voter Fraud on a Massive Scale’

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...inton-network/
Gregoire (D) vs Rossi (R) Governors election times two in Washington State. Count and recount and recount again until the desired candidate is chosen.
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Old 11-27-2016, 03:35   #8
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The tightest race, Michigan, has a larger margin (10k votes) than has ever been overturned in a recount. The other states have more of a gap between Clinton and Trump. Michigan just certified their vote, where they painstakingly certified all the votes by hand. I don't see them doing a re-do without proof, but I could be wrong.

Other elections may have had shenanigans in the past, but I assure you the RNC plus Trump's team are going to be dry humping the recount staff during this.... No one is going to be able to pull a fast one with this level of scrutiny. I just don't see an overturn of three states, let alone one.
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Old 11-27-2016, 03:39   #9
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I am with you on that. In a demented way, seeing prosecutions for sedition would fun to watch.
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Old 11-27-2016, 04:04   #10
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I think Stein has raised $5.5 million in funding for these recounts.

Wisconsin said it would cost about $1,000,000. If that follows suit in Pa and Michigan refuses as they took great lengths to verify count, that would leave $3.5 million.

I think she can keep that money as it isn't campaign funds. Maybe just a way to take it mass funds.
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Old 11-27-2016, 05:04   #11
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I am beginning to think that the Trump effect was to so completely blow up the conventional "political think" that the progressives are desperately looking for relevance. The labeling frenzy that is going on is symptomatic (eg attacks on Sessions, Bannon, even Kelly Anne Conway). Not to mention protests/riots, police shootings/murders, colleges/universities declaring safe zones and even sanctuary status.


The recount movement has no chance of success and the Libs are pushing this in a veiled attempt to de-legitimize Trumps victory and like their pre-election messaging will further self-marginalize.

Just look at who is being pushed to take over the DNC: Ellison? Dean? Really, now there's some stable mainstream thinking fer ya.

Contrast this with the stability and progress of the Trump transition team and the projection of stability and focus of a Trump administration. When all is said and done, I think the contrast will be very apparent and compelling.

Oh and one more thing, I think Trump may be playing Romney to obtain a public apology and then appoint Giuliani as SoS. That move would completely marginalize the Never Trumpers and consolidate his Populist hold on the RNC. All the while the progressive Libs and the Dem party will be chasing its tail in search of relevance.

And you might look for a Cruz nomination to the SC. That would be two-for. Get's a Never Trumper out of the Senate and fills the SC with a conservative.
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Old 11-27-2016, 05:26   #12
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Everyone keep this in mind the next time these "party" members rail against voter ID due to no need, due to no prevalence of fraud.

OT: Am in fine spirits this morning having bought a fresh spout for the yardwork's gas can, refusing with my middle finger to pay $18 for the new Gina McCarthy-Approved 2 gal. can (because they've done so well with our river system). Grrrr.
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I just had interesting thought. Wouldn't it be ironic if the truth of unintended consequences revealed what the Klinton campaign says didn't happen.

News Flash: "Recount requested by Jill Stein reveals electronic election fraud committed by voting machines tied to George Soros. FBI opens investigation into possible vote tampering where voting machines electronically counted votes for Donald Trump as a vote for Hillary Clinton. Also noted in the investigation tens of thousands of paper and military absentee ballots are missing and presumed to have not been counted for either candidate.

As it turns out and through a thorough investigation under the incoming DOJ/FBI and other non-partisan groups, Donald Trump won the popular vote in addition to picking up electoral college votes in Washington, Oregon, Nevada, New Hampshire and Vermont.

Arrest warrants have been issued for several members of the Soros family and the current whereabouts of Bill and Hillary Clinton are yet to be determined.
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Old Dog, that goes way beyond a mere interesting thought and enters the wet dream provenance.
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Old 11-27-2016, 09:00   #15
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So, California went with her by 4 million votes...California also registers illegals...

I wonder what the illegal turn out rate there is, I bet money it's higher than the average American rate.
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