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Old 06-18-2014, 09:28   #1
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I know, send in Special Forces!!!

When you don't have a clue of what to do........ barry soetoro is making Jesse Jackson look intelligent.


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Obama eyes ‘special forces’ option in Iraq, meeting with Hill leaders
Published June 18, 2014
·FoxNews.com

President Obama plans to huddle with top congressional leaders on Wednesday to discuss ramping up U.S. involvement in the Iraq crisis, and is said to be leaning toward sending U.S. special forces into the country.

White House officials stress that several options remain on the table and no decision has been made. But the president reportedly has, for now, ruled out using airstrikes against the Al Qaeda-inspired Sunni Muslim insurgency that has seized vast swaths of territory in the north and west of Iraq.

According to The Wall Street Journal, the concern is that U.S. commanders lack sufficient intelligence to determine clear battlefield targets.

A senior official told Fox News that the president instead appears to be leaning toward sending roughly 100 special forces into the region. Such a contingent presumably would be sent to help train the Iraqi military and boost intelligence available to the Iraqis.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...eet-with-hill/
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:59   #2
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If SF is there providing support, they will need air support! What's more important, Providing the support they need to accomplish their mission, or leaving them without this tactical asset because it's politically inconvenient?

I fear that without air, we'll suffer more losses...
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Old 06-18-2014, 10:30   #3
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If SF is there providing support, they will need air support! What's more important, Providing the support they need to accomplish their mission, or leaving them without this tactical asset because it's politically inconvenient?

I fear that without air, we'll suffer more losses...
More like catastrophic (approaching 100%) loss! I cannot imagine the Joint Chiefs advising this without the corresponding commitment of air assets. And if he does anyway, I would expect resignations en masse. It would establish this POTUS as the worst leader since Nero IMO. Nothing at this point would surprise me with what he does or does not do.
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Old 06-18-2014, 10:51   #4
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Perhaps teams are being sent in to pave the way for airstrikes on the ISIS.

But then, there would need to be spotters on the ground, which may be construed as sending in ground troops, which is a no no.

One could have Maliki's military do the spotting.
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Old 06-18-2014, 13:03   #5
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...shouldn't we be sending SEAL Team-6 and Delta Force to do this?

Why send plain old white-SOF ?

What a rookie.


...and as far as seeing "resignations en masse", I expect monkeys to fly out of my butt first.
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Old 06-18-2014, 13:41   #6
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How will these Iraqi troops we train be better than the ones we spent 2003-2011 training, and who cut and run at the sight of the enemy?

What will happen when the US forces are attacked or captured?

Who will provide MEDEVAC, lift, and fire support to the US troops in Iraq?

What will happen when there are (inevitably) civilian casualties, particularly if there is any way to blame us? No way to avoid this in an urban civil war, BTW.

Will a SOFA be signed before we go back in? Will there be one if/when we finish?

Who will these forces be OPCON to?

How does this address US strategic interests?

Finally, what is the desired end state that the force should try to achieve? Because to me, the underlying problems here are not going to be solved by American military intervention, and 100 guys are just a worm on a hook.

Maliki and the Iraqi leadershop are responsible for this mess, and for fixing it.

I say let them hold the sack of mierda they have created, and offer diplomatic, informational, and economic solutions.

TR
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Old 06-18-2014, 13:49   #7
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Old 06-18-2014, 15:08   #8
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Don't forget, when these morons say send in Special Forces, they mean SEALs, MARSOF or anyone else they think is special, they don't necessarily mean SF.
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Old 06-18-2014, 18:00   #9
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Don't forget, when these morons say send in Special Forces, they mean SEALs, MARSOF or anyone else they think is special, they don't necessarily mean SF.
I'm for this solution; as "they" think of themselves as special "they" will send themselves over.
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Old 06-18-2014, 18:07   #10
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Hmmm, does anyone smell another Somalia??? Yeah, send them in...but with no support...

Frickin assclowns...all of'em...
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Old 06-18-2014, 18:44   #11
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Hmmm, does anyone smell another Somalia??? Yeah, send them in...but with no support...

ickin assclowns...all of'em...
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In Somalia They Accomplished The MissionDespited Being Outnumbered And A Lot Of Casulties

I See A Blood Bath Comin Along With A Bridge To Far Mission

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Old 06-18-2014, 20:29   #12
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How will these Iraqi troops we train be better than the ones we spent 2003-2011 training, and who cut and run at the sight of the enemy?

What will happen when the US forces are attacked or captured?

Who will provide MEDEVAC, lift, and fire support to the US troops in Iraq?

What will happen when there are (inevitably) civilian casualties, particularly if there is any way to blame us? No way to avoid this in an urban civil war, BTW.

Will a SOFA be signed before we go back in? Will there be one if/when we finish?

Who will these forces be OPCON to?

How does this address US strategic interests?

Finally, what is the desired end state that the force should try to achieve? Because to me, the underlying problems here are not going to be solved by American military intervention, and 100 guys are just a worm on a hook.

Maliki and the Iraqi leadershop are responsible for this mess, and for fixing it.

I say let them hold the sack of mierda they have created, and offer diplomatic, informational, and economic solutions.

TR
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Old 06-19-2014, 13:41   #13
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Old 06-19-2014, 13:54   #14
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Exactly what I was thinking, but also going with "The 300" goes one moron........maybe he will write himself up for a 6th Purple Heart.......

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Old 06-19-2014, 17:56   #15
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How will these Iraqi troops we train be better than the ones we spent 2003-2011 training, and who cut and run at the sight of the enemy?

What will happen when the US forces are attacked or captured?

Who will provide MEDEVAC, lift, and fire support to the US troops in Iraq?

What will happen when there are (inevitably) civilian casualties, particularly if there is any way to blame us? No way to avoid this in an urban civil war, BTW.

Will a SOFA be signed before we go back in? Will there be one if/when we finish?

Who will these forces be OPCON to?

How does this address US strategic interests?

Finally, what is the desired end state that the force should try to achieve? Because to me, the underlying problems here are not going to be solved by American military intervention, and 100 guys are just a worm on a hook.

Maliki and the Iraqi leadershop are responsible for this mess, and for fixing it.

I say let them hold the sack of mierda they have created, and offer diplomatic, informational, and economic solutions.

TR
Wanna come over and spread some "vision" to my 3?

I've covered nearly all of those questions this week because at me level, nobody was. We had the wrong people this week trying to get into the fight. I think I hurt some feelings eclipsing the efforts of the 3 and his assistant planner by asking some of these same relevant questions. Nothing like your S2 NCOIC telling you that you have it wrong, and the BC agreeing.

What a fookin' week.
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