14 Dead, 50 Hurt In Mass Shooting Inside Aurora Movie Theater

[twistedsquid]

15 dead now...prayers out...

[Broadsword2004]

Prayers out to those who lost loved ones today and/or were badly wounded.

Originally Posted by Gypsy

I'm surprised the media hasn't blamed it on Bush yet. Bringing up a TP member's name...really? That's some crack reporting right there.

I'm waiting for the folks with an axe to grind regarding gun control to start using this. Michael Bloomberg sure didn't waste any time in that department. And the media adhered to the stereotype of automatically saying the guy had an AK-47 at first.

[KimuraFTW]

Ak-47/AR15/M4 same thing

[Paslode]

All the local radio is talking about is 6k in ammo purchased on the internet and Hi-Cap Mags for the AR15.

[Destrier]

Originally Posted by Paslode

All the local radio is talking about is 6k in ammo purchased on the internet and Hi-Cap Mags for the AR15.

Well 6k 5.56 rounds only weighs about 180 pounds so I am sure he was planning on carrying it all during his assault. (sarcasm alert)

[BigJimCalhoun]

Sispey Street is reporting that theater is a posted "no carry zone"
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogsp...re-victim.html

[Sdiver]

*SIGH* .... Oh boy, looks as is the "Tin Foil Hat Wearing" crowd is already at it ..... *SIGH*

Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged


Holmes was clearly provided with exotic gear
Continuing from CBS:

"He said pictures from inside the apartment are fairly disturbing and the devices look to be sophisticated, adding the booby-traps were 'something I've never seen.' One rifle, two handguns, a knife, a bullet proof vest, a ballistic helmet, a gas device, a gas mask, military SWAT clothing and unidentified explosives were also found in Holmes' car, a law enforcement source told CBS News. Oates said Holmes wore a gas mask, a ballistic helmet and vest as well as leg, groin and throat protectors during the shooting."

In other words, this guy was equipped with exotic gear by someone with connections to military equipment. SWAT clothing, explosives, complex booby-traps... c'mon, this isn't a "lone gunman." This is somebody who was selected for a mission, given equipment to carry it out, then somehow brainwashed into getting it done.

Snip

From here ........

http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_Ja...alse_flag.html

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Sdiver

*SIGH* .... Oh boy, looks as is the "Tin Foil Hat Wearing" crowd is already at it ..... *SIGH*



Snip

From here ........

http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_Ja...alse_flag.html

I am betting Monday will be a banner day for the speculative news cycle.

[KimuraFTW]

Originally Posted by BigJimCalhoun

Sispey Street is reporting that theater is a posted "no carry zone"
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogsp...re-victim.html

Thanks for that. Protecting yourself is not only your right, but it's your responsibility. I can't understand how people can continue to call for more gun control when that's the reason this clown didn't get put down long before he could shoot 70+ people.

[Gypsy]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

I'm waiting for the folks with an axe to grind regarding gun control to start using this. Michael Bloomberg sure didn't waste any time in that department. And the media adhered to the stereotype of automatically saying the guy had an AK-47 at first.

It has already begun.

Originally Posted by Sdiver

http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_Ja...alse_flag.html

In other words, this guy was equipped with exotic gear by someone with connections to military equipment. SWAT clothing, explosives, complex booby-traps... c'mon, this isn't a "lone gunman." This is somebody who was selected for a mission, given equipment to carry it out, then somehow brainwashed into getting it done.

Oh. My. God. What an idiot. Yeah, you can't buy anything like that anywhere.

[turboprop]

Originally Posted by KimuraFTW

Thanks for that. Protecting yourself is not only your right, but it's your responsibility. I can't understand how people can continue to call for more gun control when that's the reason this clown didn't get put down long before he could shoot 70+ people.

I don't advocate gun control, but this example doesn't support your idea. Unless of course you are going to carry a rifle with AP rounds and are faster or surprise the shooter. There is a reason why we have law enforcement teams that follow a military model, and unfortunately a citizen lawfully packing would probably do more harm than good getting into a gunfight with someone like this. If you start firing pistol rounds at a guy dressed like the Hollywood bank robbers in a place with people literally stacked on top of each other it probably won't end well.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

I'm waiting for the folks with an axe to grind .

Let's see how the grinding is going..

Bloomberg jumps on the Gun Control band wagon ASAP.

Brian Ross and George Steponhispenis link Holmes to the Tea Party

Breitbart links Holmes to the Democratic Party

Piers Morgan thinks America needs to do something with it's gun laws.

The Reverend Jackson uttered gibberish.

Michael Moore spouts off to the NRA

The Examiner says Holmes maybe linked to OWS Black Bloc

False Flag Alex Jones mentions MK-Ultra, the UN Small Arms Treaty and this ROLL CALL RELEASE


They are off and running.

Originally Posted by turboprop

There is a reason why we have law enforcement teams that follow a military model, and unfortunately a citizen lawfully packing would probably do more harm than good getting into a gunfight with someone like this. If you start firing pistol rounds at a guy dressed like the Hollywood bank robbers in a place with people literally stacked on top of each other it probably won't end well.

But when the Police are 5-10 minutes away...........Fight and you may die. Run and you will live at least awhile.

Awhile could be one step, 5 steps, 25 steps and if your lucky all the way to safety. I would rather have a fighting chance.

[Sigaba]

Mr. Holmes is a ferociously intelligent guy with a background in chemistry who went off the deep end.* At some yet to be determined level, he patterned his attack off of the Joker, a fictional character who is a ferociously intelligent guy with a background in chemistry who went off the deep end.

Had stricter gun control laws been in place, would Mr. Holmes have been deterred by his inability to purchase weapons and ammunition or would he have used his knowledge of chemistry to devise an alternate plan of attack?

Had fewer gun control laws been in place, would Mr. Holmes have been deterred by the prospect of facing movie-goers with firearms or would he have used his knowledge of chemistry to devise an alternate plan of attack?

FWIW, in Batman: The Dark Knight Returns (1986), the mini series that got the whole film franchise rolling, the Joker kills David Letterman and his entire studio audience without firing a shot.

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* The course requirements for the undergraduate major in neuroscience at UC Riverside are available here.

[mojaveman]

It angers me somewhat everytime that this happens. Whenever these nutjobs have an inclination to do something like this I wish they would just shoot themselves and not a bunch of other innocent people. These incidents don't do well for the Second Amendment and all of the law abiding legal firearm owners.

Prayers out for all of the victims.

[Sarski]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

Mr. Holmes is a ferociously intelligent guy with a background in chemistry who went off the deep end.* At some yet to be determined level, he patterned his attack off of the Joker, a fictional character who is a ferociously intelligent guy with a background in chemistry who went off the deep end.

Had stricter gun control laws been in place, would Mr. Holmes have been deterred by his inability to purchase weapons and ammunition or would he have used his knowledge of chemistry to devise an alternate plan of attack?

Had fewer gun control laws been in place, would Mr. Holmes have been deterred by the prospect of facing movie-goers with firearms or would he have used his knowledge of chemistry to devise an alternate plan of attack?

Since we are talking hypotheticals, he would have used a large kitchen knife, and a 25lb. bar bell weight. He would have killed as many as he could have. He popped the smoke and tear gas, it was chaos from the start. It wouldn't have mattered if he brought a beer bottle with him and used that as a weapon. He was in killing mode. People were going to die, and did, according to his plan.