07-22-2012, 01:18
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Originally Posted by plato
I think you're comparing apples to apples. Films based on real events are part true, part fiction. Films that are f ictional but portray actions and attributes that are realistic are part true, part fiction.
I hope that anyone watching a "based on real events" movie realizes that the only part that isn't fabricated may be that once upon a time a woman gave birth, just like in THIS movie. 
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The difference is when a film is trying to portray real men and their real actions. Not saying a movie based on real events should perfectly replicate every single detail, but if you're portraying the real sacrifices of these men you should get it close. Unfortunately that doesn't always work for a movie.
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07-22-2012, 01:24
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#107
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Originally Posted by Sigaba
Do you mean apples to oranges? 
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No, I was actually going for "apples to apples", having a good day, and perhaps being a bit "cute" with it. 
If I look at the original post then the question posed is whether the "based on real events" isn't worse than the fictional movie with realistic and authentic aspects.
One is accurate in "situation", location and time. But creates whatever "included events" dramatize it to sell well.
The other is accurate in "included events", operation and function, while creating whatever surrouding "situation" adds the drama necessary to makes it sell well.
Apples and apples, I think.
Unnecessary additional comment on war movies:
My first day out of the hospital at Bien Hoa, it was announced that Bn. was showing movies every day for the wounded til they were field-ready.
Beach Blanket Bingo? Gone with the Wind? Jailhouse Rock?
Nope. Patton. Freakin Patton!
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07-22-2012, 21:34
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#108
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Originally Posted by KW9598
#1- a film (if you could make it into one 2+ hour show) about SOG and their unbelievable missions is long overdue. Has anyone suggested this to a script writer? SOG and John "Tilt" Myers book Across the Fence are prime examples of intense TRUE accounts of SF operations in Vietnam.
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0962711/
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Not sure what the current status is, but I believe that QP S. B. Newman has something in the works writing a screenplay. Given the lack of current SF movies, and if the timing is right, this could be a $ great hit for him.
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07-23-2012, 00:33
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Originally Posted by ZonieDiver
Is that the one where he put Alaska Scouts into the corrugated drainage pipes (similarly to the way some ancient Greeks, Romans, etc were deployed) in order to defeat the invading Soviet paratroopers? If so, the reaction from me was the same one I had when I watched Ice Station Zebra (Soviet paratroopers vs USMC), I rooted for the Russkies!
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Yes. IIRC, the briefing went something like this. Interlocking fields of fire. Conserve your ammunition. We can't let them blah blah the pipeline, else, blah blah blah. If you look at her a certain way, Cathy Lee Crosby kind of sort of looks like Farrah Fawcett AND if we play our cards right, she might put on the Wonder Woman uniform and show us her magic lasso. (But what ever you do, for God's sake, don't mention Lynda Carter.)
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07-27-2012, 09:21
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Regardless of the controversies that have have surrounded him, I've always thought the story of Bo Gritz and the search for the U2's black box would have made a good movie.
Last edited by Inflexible Six; 07-27-2012 at 09:25.
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08-01-2012, 16:34
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Originally Posted by Badger52
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Got it.....along with:
Shadow Commander: The Epic Story of Donald D Blackburn
Behind Japanese Lines: An American Guerrilla in the Philippines
Lieutenant Ramsey's War: From Horse Soldier to Guerrilla Commander
QP: Major Richard J Meadows of the US Army SF
Bit of a gold vein there with prospects to follow like OSS 101 Detachment
Back to the aforementioned Attack Force Z with Mel Gibson and Sam Neil, it's available on YouTube for those who are interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfV1WR0zk-0
Lawrence of Arabia was just on recently.....long flick, had to watch it in pieces.....would that not qualify as an SF movie?
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08-01-2012, 16:41
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Originally Posted by Inflexible Six
Regardless of the controversies that have have surrounded him, I've always thought the story of Bo Gritz and the search for the U2's black box would have made a good movie.
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William Shatner was gonna do that, but then the Priceline gig came up.
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08-06-2012, 09:31
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I've seen some talk lately about the book Lions of Kandahar being made into a movie. I think it would do well with the right people.
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09-03-2012, 02:40
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The Man Who Would Be
My favorite movie is The Man Who Would Be King It is a fictional 1970s movie based on a short story by Rudyard Kipling. In it, Sean Connery and Michael Cane are ex-British Tommy's in India sometime I think shortly before WWI. They decide to conquer a fictional land(what is now present day Afghanistan) with just two mules and twenty martini rifles. It's an amazing story.
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09-13-2012, 17:49
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"The Man Who Would be King" is a great movie. My favorite line is Sean Connery commenting on one of the locals he is training-
"And this size 5 hat will be a hero!"
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09-13-2012, 19:18
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The Quiet American
I like to throw out the The Quiet America, yeah it has Brendan Fraser playing a OSS Officer but it has Michael Caine. May not be a straight up SF, but has things that are tied to us.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Q...can_(2002_film)
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09-13-2012, 22:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScubaNinja
My favorite movie is The Man Who Would Be King ...They decide to conquer a fictional land(what is now present day Afghanistan) with just two mules and twenty martini rifles. It's an amazing story.
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Actually they did it with a tattoo.
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09-14-2012, 10:26
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Highly recommend " Farewell to a King".
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09-19-2012, 03:44
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Originally Posted by MtnGoat
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As the story takes place in the early 50's, he would have been CIA, not OSS. In fact, today is the 65th anniversary of the CIA.
The movie was entertaining, but it always came off as condescending toward Americans.
I'm looking forward to seeing Argo, which is about the operation to rescue six diplomats during the Iran hostage crisis by posing as a film crew.
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11-26-2012, 00:20
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The Professionals (1966)
Burt Lancaster, Lee Marvin and Robert Ryan
This is a SF movie.
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